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7. I have no problem with people exhorting others to vote for Obama.
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 05:50 PM
Jul 2012

Just look at the alternative.

What I have a problem with is people namecalling and telling others to shut up and not criticize right-wing, corporate, neocon, and police state POLICIES coming out of this administration.

We have a problem of corporate money in our party, too, and terrible policies will not change without pressure from all of us. Especially during an election year, when we have the most leverage, it is our responsibility to exert pressure on our party to treat what is happening to the poor and the middle class as the emergency it is.

When two planes crashed into the WTC on 9/11, it was considered a national emergency. Three thousand people died, the nation was outraged, wars were started, and our entire nation was thrust into a new way of living, because of this national tragedy.

Compare the loss of 3000 to what is happening now. Over a million American students are homeless now. We have the second-highest child poverty rate of all the developed nations; only ROMANIA is worse. Forty percent of our wealth has been looted. People who were comfortably middle class 15 years ago are living in cars on the street. Meanwhile, the corporations are sucking in record profits.

Where is the commensurate alarm about THIS emergency? Where is the outrage? Where is the President standing up and pounding his fist on the podium and saying that it is absolutely unacceptable, in a country with the wealth that America has, for ANY person to have to worry about food or shelter? Where are the vigils and the speeches and the national days of alarm and attention to this, and the exhortations for a SERIOUS, immediate response? Why do we not get a response AT LEAST as URGENT and VEHEMENT as the response to 9/11?

Why?

No, we get corporate platitudes about the need for "shared sacrifice," austerity, and budget cutting, and admonitions to be patient and not be such a "purist." We get more drone wars. We get our Secretary of Defense admonishing us about how we can't cut military spending. We get a President *starting out* debt ceiling negotiations by offering up social spending and giving speeches advocating austerity. We get billions of dollars in new police state infrastructure and surveillance centers. We don't get any sense of alarm about *what is happening to Americans.*

This is a bigger emergency than 9/11. Where is the outrage?

EVERY Democrat should be speaking out and pushing our politicians to change the national narrative, not telling others to shut up. Every American should be speaking out and DEMANDING better.



Prior to this they were arguing in good faith on policy grounds. ( n/t ) Make7 Jul 2012 #1
Disagree that ALL were arguing in good faith, but I won't contest the point in this thread DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2012 #4
Nicely done. Thanks for the post. russspeakeasy Jul 2012 #2
Thank you for "getting it." truly.... progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #3
It was NO accident in '08 that Palin is a SECESSIONIST. They hired BHO & planned to take him down patrice Jul 2012 #5
Phrases like 'sub human garbage' are guaranteed to harden our enemies. randome Jul 2012 #6
thank you hfojvt Jul 2012 #9
I have no problem with people exhorting others to vote for Obama. woo me with science Jul 2012 #7
Well stated, thanks. MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #8
I agree with most everything you've said here. DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2012 #10
Is Romania even a developed nation? hfojvt Jul 2012 #12
I recall a post someone made when those rankings came out. woo me with science Jul 2012 #14
Everything you just said is wrong. TheWraith Jul 2012 #13
... Fumesucker Jul 2012 #29
Good post! sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #15
Take that, ROMANIA! hay rick Jul 2012 #18
You get exactly what you voted for. joshcryer Jul 2012 #20
Paul Krugman said essentially the same thing at the Commonwealh Club. EFerrari Jul 2012 #23
... SammyWinstonJack Jul 2012 #33
It has always kind of like being in a war where you are not advancing but you are still trying to jwirr Jul 2012 #11
Well, this IS a Democratic forum. It tends to attract, you know, Democrats. Honeycombe8 Jul 2012 #16
Nice rant! Ruby the Liberal Jul 2012 #17
I stopped reading after the title. GarroHorus Jul 2012 #19
Do you find that responding in threads you haven't read works well for you? DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2012 #25
When the title is complete stupidity that warrants nothing but disdain, yes. n/t GarroHorus Jul 2012 #34
He has my vote Marrah_G Jul 2012 #21
Thanks, Marrah_G. n/t DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2012 #27
I have no problem with who people vote for nor do I coerce anyone to vote for Obama. joshcryer Jul 2012 #22
Exactly what false outrage are you asking to be spared from DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2012 #24
I don't find the "bagger policy" convincing. joshcryer Jul 2012 #30
Thanks for the clarification, I guess DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2012 #35
Didn't you just tell me recently that you had no respect for President Obama? sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #37
I don't go around detracting from Obama on a message board dedicated to Democrats. joshcryer Jul 2012 #38
I haven't seen anyone detracting from Obama. I have seen people sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #40
I suppose you missed that one poster who got PPR'd then for posting right wing sources... joshcryer Jul 2012 #41
I missed nothing. sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #42
So you "haven't seen anyone detracting from Obama" but you "missed nothing." joshcryer Jul 2012 #43
I will repeat, as you seem to not have read my comment. sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #44
We're glad you got rid of the stridency. kentuck Jul 2012 #26
"lesser of two evils"... SidDithers Jul 2012 #28
The lesser of two evils is perfectly valid for the privileged. joshcryer Jul 2012 #31
Thank you, Sidney, and a hearty Happy Canada Day to you! DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2012 #36
John huntsman was the best of the GOP Thinkingabout Jul 2012 #32
If there is no threat to his base how to we stop his rightward slide? Sirveri Jul 2012 #39
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