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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Fri Dec 30, 2011, 02:22 AM

18. "The people with the money and guns will always abuse the people who don't have the money and guns"

"unless there are multiple levels of checks, balances, and legal and economic protections..."

Which will eventually be dictated by the people with money and guns, which is what you have OWS out in the street protesting things like the revolving door policy, which ensures people who work in DC get high paying corporate jobs for favors. Or the CEO of Halliburton working as VP, pressing for a war in Iraq where Halliburton would be awarded no bid contracts to pay crews $100,000 a day to stand around and do nothing:
http://able2know.org/topic/73474-1

The reason Libertarianism is suddenly getting so much attention is that its the state isn't doing any of those things its supposed to do, at which point it becomes a source of weakness, not goodness. The people being drawn to it now see it as a long term solution for government the same way a gardener sees a bucket of herbicide as a long term solution for a garden: Its not the end goal, but it might get rid of the weeds so something nice can grow.

edit: BTW, the reason a right wing reform movement popped up at all is because Obama continued so many of GWB's policies, making them such a part of the Dem brand that Republicans actually started rebelling against their old policies for that reason. Dems took a compromise position that left them dirtied with some bad, bad policies. What's needed is mo' power to OWS, more house cleaning action on the left, that's what I say.

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