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She wasn't fired, she quit ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2012 #1
Oh I agree proud2BlibKansan Jun 2012 #2
this kind of thing does make the progressives case for income assistance look bad... CTyankee Jun 2012 #5
This kind of thing? You mean, ignorant people trying to humiliate the poor and powerless? EFerrari Jun 2012 #13
No, I don't like that at all. Not saying that. CTyankee Jun 2012 #23
I just read a quote the other night: "I'm too old to spend my life worrying EFerrari Jun 2012 #25
You are right and I think of that. But I just had one of those "conversations" with my auto repair CTyankee Jun 2012 #31
With all the rightwing media money being spent EFerrari Jun 2012 #33
See, I can't understand WHY propaganda works, really well, on some SammyWinstonJack Jun 2012 #50
John Dean wrote that book about authoritarians. EFerrari Jun 2012 #51
But if it's biological progressiveinaction Jun 2012 #132
Well, resenting people for who they are EFerrari Jun 2012 #144
I Think you have to come from a progressive background & an open family where political Pyrzqxgl Jun 2012 #85
You may have a point there proud2BlibKansan Jun 2012 #104
Abraham Lincoln summed it up when he noted, Art_from_Ark Jun 2012 #156
Sam Waterson's character in the first episode of Newsroom said: TomClash Jun 2012 #37
That was it! Thank you! ETA EFerrari Jun 2012 #45
It was great TomClash Jun 2012 #129
Thanks. russspeakeasy Jun 2012 #82
It was the new HBO show "Network." IdaBriggs Jun 2012 #139
Tell me... Scootaloo Jun 2012 #32
I'm sorry, too, that we don't live in that kind of world, or at least not here in the U.S. CTyankee Jun 2012 #44
Well, I made this suggestion the other day here.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2012 #48
It differs from the anti-obesity arguments in that people have to eat to live but not smoke to live. CTyankee Jun 2012 #55
But don't you think it's hypocritical to slam the poor for trying to find a little pleasure in sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #72
But I didn't "slam the poor" on anything. I was talking about the hard, political reality that we CTyankee Jun 2012 #93
if tobacco is eligible, it's because corporations & tobacco farmers lobbied to make it HiPointDem Jun 2012 #95
GREAT point, and one's that very likely to be missed amongst the heat of the debate, even at DU. bullwinkle428 Jun 2012 #148
Yep, it is the new American culture. The ignorant rising up ripe with RKP5637 Jun 2012 #53
Yep. The climate has definitely changed. n/t EFerrari Jun 2012 #63
that's not a nice things to say about a drug addict trying to score nt msongs Jun 2012 #124
I don't think authoritarianism is officially an addiction. Yet, anyway. n/t EFerrari Jun 2012 #146
The citizens of the state bought those cigarettes. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #162
Wait, are you questioning this aid recipient's citizenship? EFerrari Jun 2012 #164
In the absence of voters consent to provide aid, he would have been unable to buy cigarettes. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #165
When that money is allocated to that individual, it isn't yours any more. EFerrari Jun 2012 #168
It's public money, and public funds, up to the point that a EBT card is funded. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #169
LOL, so now this situation is my fault? Still doesn't make a lick of sense. n/;t EFerrari Jun 2012 #170
Take it up with the TOBACCO DiverDave Sep 2012 #177
We don't lose any argument when you've got corporate welfare... cynatnite Jun 2012 #16
I wish I could say that everybody is on to the corporate welfare scam in this country but they CTyankee Jun 2012 #26
Yes indeed, in particular the purchase of Cadillacs using ebt cards just has to stop. Warren Stupidity Jun 2012 #152
That's odd. Marinedem Jun 2012 #9
Really? You'd reward discriminatory behavior EFerrari Jun 2012 #11
Discriminatory? Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #17
Yes, if you refuse to allow a sale simply because the person is using a Welfare card EFerrari Jun 2012 #21
I don't think it would make for a good civil rights complaint. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #35
It's even more than just straight sales. EFerrari Jun 2012 #43
Cigarettes, unlike disabilities, are not a protected class. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #54
Refusing service to someone with a Welfare card EFerrari Jun 2012 #60
The clerk made a good faith refusal Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #73
We really don't know if her refusal was in good faith or not. EFerrari Jun 2012 #74
Yeah, those workers are always cutting into the profit margin Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #77
Discriminating against poor people is not "work", it's discrimination. EFerrari Jun 2012 #79
When did Big Tobacco care about choice? Remember the decptive adds and studies? Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #81
But I'm not talking to Big Tabacco, I'm talking to you EFerrari Jun 2012 #83
"I'm not talking to Big Tabacco, I'm talking to you" Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #98
This isn't a discussion about corporate propaganda. For that, you'd need to start your own thread. EFerrari Jun 2012 #101
if you can buy cigarettes with benefits, it's for the benefit of the corporations & HiPointDem Jun 2012 #89
it's an eligible product on the card, what don't you get? and it's eligible because HiPointDem Jun 2012 #103
Then we should lobby to have it made ineligible Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #113
yeah, that's a very important issue, why don't you go work on it. HiPointDem Jun 2012 #118
It is possible to do more than one thing at a time. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #120
We live in a system that guarantees that there will be poor people. Poor people are not infants... Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #125
Rant: ON Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #147
Food for thought. ChazII Jun 2012 #166
for what, holding up a line? refusing a sale? humiliating a customer? unblock Jun 2012 #12
You think you have a right to tell poor people what to buy? cynatnite Jun 2012 #18
What if she wanted a soda that was larger than 32 ounces? Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #19
Um...let me think about that... cynatnite Jun 2012 #20
Would that the rest of us had such freedoms with our own money Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #22
Of course. Totally agree. n/t cynatnite Jun 2012 #24
Then in NYC she would be treated like every other supermarket customer. Warren Stupidity Jun 2012 #154
It's bullcrap. Marinedem Jun 2012 #30
It's not crap...it's none of your business is what it is... cynatnite Jun 2012 #36
no, your post is bullcrap: i pay $9 a pack for cigarettes, and most of it is tax. HiPointDem Jun 2012 #106
I imagine you then run a most successful company... LanternWaste Jun 2012 #28
Not political Marinedem Jun 2012 #34
What if they were buying nothing but junk food with their food stamps? n/t cynatnite Jun 2012 #39
Some States are using EBT for Child Support and Unemployment Benefits rbrnmw Sep 2012 #178
For me, it would depend SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2012 #123
They have sting operations here where minors try to buy booze XemaSab Jul 2012 #175
Yes, she was playing morality police. If it'd been a mistake* I'd be for her. But she ran her mouth. freshwest Jul 2012 #176
I don't think that's the case blogslut Jun 2012 #3
the article says one type is for food only, the other type is for anything, even gambling. unblock Jun 2012 #6
WIC is a voucher. Very specific as to what you can buy with it. Milk, cheese, eggs, beans, juice, Erose999 Jun 2012 #8
I haven't read the entire thread, so this may have already been said SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2012 #122
Read the story. LiberalFighter Jun 2012 #167
Jackie R. Whiton, had been a six-year employee at the Big Apple convenience store ... Kalidurga Jun 2012 #4
exactly. in fact, i'd bet she was looking for an excuse to quit. unblock Jun 2012 #7
Further in the article it states, “She didn’t think it was right and just wasn’t going to sell..." ieoeja Jun 2012 #29
If she did stay, who would she decide to 'punish' the following week? Ikonoklast Jun 2012 #40
Good fucking riddance. n/t cynatnite Jun 2012 #42
it was none of her business Liberal_in_LA Jun 2012 #10
You can use welfare funds to buy cigarettes? 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #14
The cash portion can be spent at the discretion of the reciever of the assistance. n/t cynatnite Jun 2012 #15
I could see letting the cash portion be largely unregulated 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #41
If you're not going to allow poor people to buy smokes, why should you allow the rest? cynatnite Jun 2012 #46
I never said they wouldn't be allowed to buy smokes 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #58
It's none of our business what they buy with that money. cynatnite Jun 2012 #59
Do you think food stamps should be altered as well then? 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #66
Yes, I do... cynatnite Jun 2012 #68
Interesting. 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #75
Why do you care so much about what they spend? cynatnite Jun 2012 #80
Why do you keep saying it isn't our business when it is our money they are spending? Bandit Jun 2012 #94
It is their money as citizens of this country EFerrari Jun 2012 #99
Politicians are spending our money... cynatnite Jun 2012 #100
Corporations should NOT be getting taxpayer money Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #111
"our" money "they" are spending cthulu2016 Jun 2012 #107
Awesome 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #136
I also think that the poor should have greater access to the internet... cynatnite Jun 2012 #137
Yes clearly it is the lack of access to tobacco 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #138
Did I say that anywhere? cynatnite Jun 2012 #142
It's the cash portion Marrah_G Jun 2012 #150
moving to put all public benefits on these cards gives the public ever so many more HiPointDem Jun 2012 #112
+1 Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #126
Yes, it is. Most people work hard for their money and when they see it squandered MrTriumph Jun 2012 #84
But you're ripped off by big corporations all the time... cynatnite Jun 2012 #88
Where's the outrage? As a Democrat I am disgusted when MrTriumph Jun 2012 #109
You are basing that on your own personal values... cynatnite Jun 2012 #117
"They're doing it" so it's okay? mizzuz pibb Jul 2012 #172
apparently only when poor people "squander" it. albeit the overwhelming majority HiPointDem Jun 2012 #114
does it bother you that the military sells cigarettes and junk food to the troops? Bluerthanblue Jun 2012 #160
The problem with the cash..... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2012 #47
Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #38
yeah.... opiate69 Jun 2012 #52
Yep. That's what I wrote... MightyOkie Jun 2012 #56
the implication is obvious to anybody with 2 brain cells to rub together opiate69 Jun 2012 #62
Because life is just so fucking grand for them that they are living it up... cynatnite Jun 2012 #61
Big tobacco has always been there for the poor people Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #76
Fascinating 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #140
It comes down to choice... cynatnite Jun 2012 #141
I thought in some states you can't buy smokes or alcohol with welfare cards. southernyankeebelle Jun 2012 #27
That's what I thought... MightyOkie Jun 2012 #49
OMG! cynatnite Jun 2012 #57
+1 Lionessa Jun 2012 #65
The authoritarian mind, what an awkward twisted place to live. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #64
Seriously. EFerrari Jun 2012 #67
Notice how the store clerk and the customer are pitted against one another, while coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #69
+1. and it's because of the media meme -- "lazy welfare cheats, wasting our money" HiPointDem Jun 2012 #86
I'm sorry I am very far to the left and an ex-smoker now for 13 years. ArnoldLayne Jun 2012 #70
The money is for whatever they want it to be for... cynatnite Jun 2012 #71
Say what!? Taxpayers pass moral judgments every day about how their money is spent. MrTriumph Jun 2012 #87
Sure they do, but you're talking about someone's personal life here... cynatnite Jun 2012 #90
But they don't get to inflict those decisions on the public at large EFerrari Jun 2012 #91
How far to the left can you be if you are trying to enforce your wishes EFerrari Jun 2012 #78
They aren't all red, are they? n/t Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #127
The food portion cannot be used for anything but non-prepared food. Marrah_G Jun 2012 #151
I'm sorry but welfare is not for food. It is for your living expenses. Warren Stupidity Jun 2012 #155
This thread is a prime example of what makes the average person irate: Poor people HiPointDem Jun 2012 #92
Banksters throw hundreds of thousands of families out of their homes EFerrari Jun 2012 #96
i've been kicking a thread about the attack on unions for three days. one response. HiPointDem Jun 2012 #115
Sad, isn't it? proud2BlibKansan Jun 2012 #97
After one of these threads, no one here should ever again claim EFerrari Jun 2012 #105
Oh I know proud2BlibKansan Jun 2012 #108
LOL EFerrari Jun 2012 #110
really. why would any working class person vote democratic, when they're constantly HiPointDem Jun 2012 #116
Poor people make for good targets, don't they? cynatnite Jun 2012 #102
Yep. (nt) Posteritatis Jun 2012 #131
It's the "deserving" vs. "undeserving" poor BS. Odin2005 Jun 2012 #133
Wow, a story with two people making idiotic financial decisions Taitertots Jun 2012 #119
When you figure out a way to make people stop making stupid decisions EFerrari Jun 2012 #121
It's a bit ridiculous SoCalNative Jun 2012 #128
If it wasn't for welfare ...... Smilo Jun 2012 #130
The anti-poor bigotry in this thread is nauseating. Odin2005 Jun 2012 #134
I didn't realize that welfare could be used for cigarettes. BlueCheese Jun 2012 #135
It's the cash portion of the ebt card, used like a debit card Marrah_G Jun 2012 #149
Do ya'll know any poor people? jcboon Jun 2012 #143
Welcome to du and thanks for your compassion. Warren Stupidity Jun 2012 #157
Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #171
Got called for a jury on your hateful post-then I saw you'd already been PPRed....Good riddence Rowdyboy Jul 2012 #173
This just makes me so sad.....the whole idea of power over someone else..... a kennedy Jun 2012 #145
No one is getting rich off welfare Marrah_G Jun 2012 #153
Fired because of ..."The two “had a little go-around”... SoCalDem Jun 2012 #158
I don't care unreadierLizard Jun 2012 #159
Yay for Big Apple! They gotta protect their profits. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #161
WELFARE QUEENS IN CADILLACS!!!!!BUYING CIGS AND BOOOOOOZE!!!!11!! tjwash Jun 2012 #163
Mittens will probably give her the RNC keynote position RFKHumphreyObama Jul 2012 #174
unemployment and child support go to ebt cards in many states rbrnmw Sep 2012 #179
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