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datasuspect

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86. most of this country is a backwater

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 09:40 AM

Jun 2012

dangle a carrot like a steady paycheck (military) or a step up the ladder (student loans) in front of lost of people who have practically ZERO opportunities available, it becomes easier to see why people make the decisions they make.

that's where the loss of freedom exists: it's disingenuous to proclaim what you are free to NOT do. Especially when doors are pretty much closed across the board in all the various $8/hour wage slave backwaters that make up the majority of this country.

the idea is to EXPAND opportunity.

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Folks it's about not cooperating with the system any more............ [View all] socialist_n_TN Jun 2012 OP

when people are self-policing, refusing to "rock the boat" too much, lest their masters disapprove villager Jun 2012 #1

Yep they buy into the bullshit that ......... socialist_n_TN Jun 2012 #3

Well ranted the other one Jun 2012 #2

Thank you......... socialist_n_TN Jun 2012 #5

+1. Good question. nt tblue Jun 2012 #91

It is going to have to get ugly. russspeakeasy Jun 2012 #4

Or to the Russians prior to October '17......... socialist_n_TN Jun 2012 #7

Historically, it's the only thing that has ever worked. OffWithTheirHeads Jun 2012 #11

Yep. There's no guarantee, but......... socialist_n_TN Jun 2012 #17

Yeah, that really worked out great, didn't it? TheWraith Jun 2012 #20

Well we've all known whose side you're on.......... socialist_n_TN Jun 2012 #25

+100 alittlelark Jun 2012 #36

plus another one hundred. chknltl Jun 2012 #44

...another one hundred and one villager Jun 2012 #49

+1,000,000,000,000 Odin2005 Jun 2012 #62

And +1000 truth2power Jun 2012 #82

Tell me, would you consider Albert Einstein to be sophomoric? white_wolf Jun 2012 #34

How often is the turnover for the planners? FrodosPet Jun 2012 #69

Both systems have their issues DireStrike Jun 2012 #105

"...can there be a true accountability without having an......... socialist_n_TN Jun 2012 #118

We have the Internet FrodosPet Jul 2012 #119

Uh, who's side are you on again? Zalatix Jun 2012 #46

Psuedo? tavalon Jun 2012 #51

Which side are you on hobbit709 Jun 2012 #68

Absolutely Fab! Caretha Jun 2012 #113

Bullshit. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2012 #104

Yes, the idea of revolting sulphurdunn Jun 2012 #108

The US actually has very little in common with Russia in 1917 RZM Jun 2012 #37

We're in the same situation as far as ........... socialist_n_TN Jun 2012 #40

How about the French Revolution? Zalatix Jun 2012 #47

Don't know as much about France RZM Jun 2012 #55

Remarkably stable? tavalon Jun 2012 #53

Just don't see it RZM Jun 2012 #56

It could have been tavalon Jun 2012 #64

RZM Diclotican Jun 2012 #83

We've just lost (or are in the process of losing) two coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #93

The war comparisons don't work at all RZM Jun 2012 #94

Good points. I'm not sure I'd even dignify Iraq and Afghanistan with the label of 'war' myself, but coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #95

In RE to not calling them wars: ask the Iraqui and Afghani people that. Dont call me Shirley Jun 2012 #110

Yeah, I take your point. On a related note, I've been told coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #111

They've stopped playing ball w/us long ago. southerncrone Jun 2012 #48

The problem in my opinion is that everyone has their own agenda. Blanks Jun 2012 #75

Or the United States in the late 1800's/early 1900's. Marr Jun 2012 #60

Frederick Douglass already said it back in the 19th Century: coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #92

So we have a Napolean in our future? FrodosPet Jun 2012 #67

YES! YES! YES! Hotler Jun 2012 #116

There's a step or two beyond "non-cooperation" pscot Jun 2012 #6

Sure there is, BUT.......... socialist_n_TN Jun 2012 #8

How people can excuse extracting profits xchrom Jun 2012 #9

The young have always died for Wall Street......... socialist_n_TN Jun 2012 #16

+1 Zorra Jun 2012 #10

Things won't change until the people stop accepting the status quo... polichick Jun 2012 #12

So now we're supposed to emulate what we detest in others? WillowTree Jun 2012 #13

How much integrity is there in continuing to support an utterly and obviously corrupt system? marmar Jun 2012 #27

Thank you marmar. That was my point......... socialist_n_TN Jun 2012 #29

Be my guest. But you know why they say it's folly to roll around in the mud with a pig, right? WillowTree Jun 2012 #58

Hey! Let's commit economic suicide FrodosPet Jun 2012 #70

And I thank you , marmar. You and socialist n tn are on the right track. eom truth2power Jun 2012 #85

Feel free to continue playing the game by THEIR rules. Zalatix Jun 2012 #57

Hear, Hear!!!!! mckara Jun 2012 #14

+1 white_wolf Jun 2012 #15

Today we have a dysfunctional congress SoutherDem Jun 2012 #18

That's because the electoral system in a bourgeoisie ...... socialist_n_TN Jun 2012 #19

Dysfunctional? cbrer Jun 2012 #65

Non-cooperation and getting in their face - TBF Jun 2012 #21

Well, as I said in another post......... socialist_n_TN Jun 2012 #24

I agree. Eddie Haskell Jun 2012 #22

Naw, just a socialist.......... socialist_n_TN Jun 2012 #23

Maybe I'm a hopeless optimist (not really) but, Marie Marie Jun 2012 #26

Actually I hope so too because.......... socialist_n_TN Jun 2012 #28

Agreed. southerncrone Jun 2012 #50

Carlin didn't go quite far enough. Brigid Jun 2012 #30

Well, most people don't go far enough for me Brigid....... socialist_n_TN Jun 2012 #32

Holding signs, yelling, and having pre-approved marches will change things, surely. Comrade_McKenzie Jun 2012 #31

Ah yes, We just get SO much done with those.......... socialist_n_TN Jun 2012 #33

.....heh..... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2012 #38

During the Monica nonsense Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2012 #35

And that's the whole point. They really DON'T care............ socialist_n_TN Jun 2012 #39

One of these days we're going to see votes trump cash Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2012 #41

It is Neo-America clang1 Jun 2012 #42

Yep. Whose side are you on?..... socialist_n_TN Jun 2012 #43

Not yours n/t clang1 Jun 2012 #112

And I'm not on yours....so get off my lawn Caretha Jun 2012 #114

Yep. It's always nice to know where people stand....... socialist_n_TN Jun 2012 #115

Well reasoned, and well stated. K&R Mira Jun 2012 #45

DU Rec nt woo me with science Jun 2012 #52

I agree with you Lifelong Protester Jun 2012 #54

+1 Starry Messenger Jun 2012 #59

Guillotine time. Odin2005 Jun 2012 #61

Awaken! - K&R n/t DeSwiss Jun 2012 #63

An American refusenik movement would work if enough people participate. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #66

The Rules Were Changed Mid-game Macoy51 Jun 2012 #72

Banks and corporations used to be expected to follow a moral obligation too lunatica Jun 2012 #74

Letting Republicans be themselves Shankapotomus Jun 2012 #71

K&R Leopolds Ghost Jun 2012 #73

Exactly!!! historian Jun 2012 #76

You don't cooperate with the system and it won't cooperate with you. dkf Jun 2012 #77

the system compels you to comply datasuspect Jun 2012 #78

You are free to not take out loans or join the military. dkf Jun 2012 #79

most of this country is a backwater datasuspect Jun 2012 #86

The American educational system doesn't teach kids the first thing about financial literacy. dkf Jun 2012 #87

That is by design datasuspect Jun 2012 #88

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How to pay off your credit cards for one. dkf Jun 2012 #98

This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Jun 2012 #99

Read yesterday's entry on "The Picket Line" Ednahilda Jun 2012 #80

The author of the blog you linked chervilant Jun 2012 #96

I agree until your last sentence. chervilant Jun 2012 #81

"it's a small club and we're not in it." INdemo Jun 2012 #84

It is the duty mick063 Jun 2012 #89

Great rant. 100% agree. raouldukelives Jun 2012 #90

Students should look to Canada for directions WHEN CRABS ROAR Jun 2012 #100

Just remember the other side gets to play with the same rules Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #101

There are many students who will stand together but I really feel for the soldiers who do this. They jwirr Jun 2012 #102

Glad to be rec 123. n/t truedelphi Jun 2012 #103

Ah, but my personal ethics are independent from anyone else's. MineralMan Jun 2012 #106

You know, if you loaned me $100 I'd move Heaven and Earth......... socialist_n_TN Jun 2012 #117

Everyone who buys their shit cooperates with the system CleanLucre Jun 2012 #107

Do not cooperate with the fascist system, do not cooperate with tthe war makers, do not cooperate Dont call me Shirley Jun 2012 #109