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LAGC

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46. Way too late for that.

Reply to Hoyt (Reply #43)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 03:23 AM

Jun 2012

Pandora's box has already been opened. No way to shut it now.

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Has the NRA purchased the contempt vote of 30 Democrats? This is what the allegation [View all] mfcorey1 Jun 2012 OP

it's embarassing the power they have in congress. it's also amazing we tolerate it. spanone Jun 2012 #1

They energize and mobilize voters hack89 Jun 2012 #5

Sure, because TheCowsCameHome Jun 2012 #7

If the Democratic party can't come to grips with the notion hack89 Jun 2012 #8

Then so be it. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2012 #10

I happen to enjoy seeing Democrats in power hack89 Jun 2012 #12

Then reconsider praising NRA which promotes defeat of Obama and Hoyt Jun 2012 #35

Where have I praised the NRA? nt hack89 Jun 2012 #37

Seeing how many pro-2A Democrats can be found it is a disgrace Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #57

Pro-2nd Amendment and supporting gun bans? NickB79 Jun 2012 #65

In artfully worded Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #66

Ah, ok. I mis-interpreted your post. Sorry bout that. nt NickB79 Jun 2012 #67

No need for apologies. Your question was perfectly valid. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #68

Big guns are a unifying force in this country. demosincebirth Jun 2012 #54

Representative democracy means representatives do what their voters say. It's not wrong. freshwest Jun 2012 #78

NRA letter said this contempt vote would be scored. madashelltoo Jun 2012 #2

Seriously? Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #58

Not talking about publicizing the vote. madashelltoo Jun 2012 #61

Retribution or reward should follow votes Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #63

If TRUE it is MORE CORRUPTION clang1 Jun 2012 #3

This is not corruption, this is "caving" to your constituents JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2012 #59

There's just one problem. Scootaloo Jun 2012 #76

The NRA has power beyond belief SoutherDem Jun 2012 #4

Pretty amazing considering how few members they actually have. hack89 Jun 2012 #17

It's not the size of their membership, it's the size of their bankroll. russspeakeasy Jun 2012 #26

How big is their bankroll compared to progressive groups or unions? nt hack89 Jun 2012 #32

I think with leadership that includes Grover Norquist, John Bolton, T Nugent, and Hoyt Jun 2012 #38

So it is because no prominent, powerful Democrats oppose the NRA view on guns hack89 Jun 2012 #40

Money in politics doesn't just mean legalized bribery, but also legalized extortion. n/t backscatter712 Jun 2012 #56

Gun-religionists bongbong Jun 2012 #6

Millions of Democrats own guns. hack89 Jun 2012 #9

NRA = GOP TheCowsCameHome Jun 2012 #11

Yet millions of Democrats own guns and are not GOP hack89 Jun 2012 #14

Big Difference Between Gun Owners And Gun Militants. Paladin Jun 2012 #18

No - what is the dividing line? hack89 Jun 2012 #22

Start bongbong Jun 2012 #29

Please stop lying about me hack89 Jun 2012 #36

Right. We might well be better off if we had put the brakes on a few decades ago. Hoyt Jun 2012 #43

Way too late for that. LAGC Jun 2012 #46

So you do recognize that gun violence rates have and continue to deline? ok. nt hack89 Jun 2012 #48

But not because more are packing. Think how much less violent crime would be Hoyt Jun 2012 #49

Think how many lives would be saved if we ban hack89 Jun 2012 #51

So just give up bongbong Jun 2012 #70

The rest of America has moved on. hack89 Jun 2012 #73

WRONG! bongbong Jun 2012 #69

Yet you have been completely unable to provide any proof. hack89 Jun 2012 #71

As always - logic fail for you bongbong Jun 2012 #72

Lets look at your "logic" shall we? hack89 Jun 2012 #74

There Are A Good Number Of Democratic Gun Owners. Paladin Jun 2012 #52

There are extremists on both sides of the issue here at DU hack89 Jun 2012 #60

Naivety on display...eom Kolesar Jun 2012 #27

Just reality - or are you not paying attention to what is happening in Congress? hack89 Jun 2012 #31

This isn't about gun ownership. I don't care that much about that issue. Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 #13

So how am I to take the "gun-religionist" comment? hack89 Jun 2012 #16

There are plenty of "Second Amendment Democrats," if that's a term. Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 #19

So American civil liberties must be curtailed because of out of control crime in Mexico? hack89 Jun 2012 #25

Any liberty must be and is properly curtailed when it harms another. n/t Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 #44

Most of Mexico's illegal guns come from south of their border, not north. LAGC Jun 2012 #47

The Mexican government estimates 2000 weapons a day cross our border into Mexico. Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 #75

The issue is how those regulations are being implemented hack89 Jun 2012 #79

Regulations "implemented by executive fiat"? Hooboy. Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 #80

When it comes to enumerated rights. hack89 Jun 2012 #81

What right of yours is violated by any specific regulation attempting to curb 2000 weapons a day Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 #82

I am talking about the process in general hack89 Jun 2012 #83

But only through legislation hack89 Jun 2012 #50

I'm a loyal Dem and gun owner. Bake Jun 2012 #62

If you don't want to be treated as a gun-worshiper, the solution is simple. baldguy Jun 2012 #20

So what are good Democratic gun policies? nt hack89 Jun 2012 #23

It certainly isn't pretending that the GOP/NRA witch-hunt against Eric Holder baldguy Jun 2012 #28

I agree with you. hack89 Jun 2012 #33

Then you're contradicting yourself. baldguy Jun 2012 #34

No - what is happening with Holder is pure partisan politics hack89 Jun 2012 #39

People reading this should click on the links with your posts & judge for themselves. baldguy Jun 2012 #41

No where have I supported the NRA's pressure on congress and their vote on Holder. hack89 Jun 2012 #42

I have a guns. Jack Sprat Jun 2012 #21

I agree with you about the NRA. nt hack89 Jun 2012 #24

+1000 YoungDemCA Jun 2012 #15

When the NRA says "we'll be watching".. it's less of a purchase than it is a threat notadmblnd Jun 2012 #30

The NRA is a domestic terrorist organization. nt Comrade_McKenzie Jun 2012 #45

They probalbly won their last election by razor thin margins demosincebirth Jun 2012 #53

No. The problem is that these congressman have constituencies that listen to the NRA badtoworse Jun 2012 #55

Profiles in Cowardice CanonRay Jun 2012 #64

The NRA is a bully organization with bully at the helm. Lint Head Jun 2012 #77