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snot

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2. K&R'd and bookmarked!
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 11:35 AM
Jun 2012

Those are the soldiers whose courage I most admire.

"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience. Our problem is that people all over the world have obeyed the dictates of leaders . . . . and millions have been killed because of this obedience . . . ."
– Howard Zinn, Failure to Quit (South End Press, 2002; originally published 1993)

"Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? . . . But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. . . . All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
– Hermann Goering, per Nuremberg Diary (Farrar, Straus & Co 1947), by Gustave Gilbert

rec. SammyWinstonJack Jun 2012 #1
K&R'd and bookmarked! snot Jun 2012 #2
right on! Love this!!! Ghost of Huey Long Jun 2012 #3
That first photo, where the AF Staff Sgt. says he enlisted for educational and financial reasons-- TwilightGardener Jun 2012 #4
It's the reason a lot of people enlist.....what's wrong with the guy's enlightenment tpsbmam Jun 2012 #6
When my husband enlisted, it was during a time of peace (post-first-Gulf War). TwilightGardener Jun 2012 #7
Understood.....but you're still not addressing my initial response to you.... tpsbmam Jun 2012 #9
I have no problem with that, as long as they take themselves out of active duty before TwilightGardener Jun 2012 #17
One reason why they like to get them so young. raouldukelives Jun 2012 #8
Well said. nt tpsbmam Jun 2012 #10
May I ask what your familiarity level with military life is? PavePusher Jun 2012 #12
Well I am bit pessimistic with regards to the military these days. raouldukelives Jun 2012 #24
How old are you? Did you see those WWII and Korea vets immediately after they came home? PavePusher Jun 2012 #25
That is very true. It had been decades between my knowing raouldukelives Jun 2012 #26
Not all military jobs are such as you describe. Marrah_G Jun 2012 #16
Actually, that's a Master Sergeant, E-7... PavePusher Jun 2012 #11
Ooops, didn't look at the stripes. Yes, he knows why they pay him, then--not a kid anymore. TwilightGardener Jun 2012 #18
My son is in the AF Nat guard Marrah_G Jun 2012 #15
I hope he has a good experience and stays safe! TwilightGardener Jun 2012 #20
He loves it Marrah_G Jun 2012 #23
K&R Eyerish Jun 2012 #5
THIS, my friends, is Bravery. . . . . .n/t annabanana Jun 2012 #13
Good for them. I have a lot more respect for them than those that go and kill without questions. nt Comrade_McKenzie Jun 2012 #14
Yeah, we're just a bunch of baby-killers, right? PavePusher Jun 2012 #19
Bravo to them. And, to hell with the politicians who send them to fight. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2012 #21
K&R EFerrari Jun 2012 #22
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