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In the discussion thread: 5 Signs the United States Is Undergoing a Coup - James Fallows [View all]

Response to Drunken Irishman (Reply #33)

Mon Jun 25, 2012, 08:23 AM

53. Bush did not 'win' in 2000. Bush was not 'elected' in 2000. Bush

was installed at the end of a bloodless coup d'etat.

Gore in 2000 violated the first law of American politics: lock down your base before you move to the center. Instead, Gore took his base for granted and moved to the center. No wonder Gore's base failed to see much difference between him and the Boy King.

Finally, Gore 'conceded' the election. No one held a gun to Gore's head and forced him to concede, IIRC. He should have denounced the Supreme Court's decision and called for a mass general strike. Why didn't he do so??????

Stop blaming me for Gore's pathetic ineptitude. N.B. I voted for Gore in 2000.

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136 replies	Author	Time	Post
5 Signs the United States Is Undergoing a Coup - James Fallows [View all]	NRaleighLiberal	Jun 2012	OP
And some of us have said this is going on for a few years	nadinbrzezinski	Jun 2012	#1
DU had changed	OverseaVisitor	Jun 2012	#63
Hey, welcome back!	Canuckistanian	Jun 2012	#113
It had been like	OverseaVisitor	Jun 2012	#117
But who was laughing? probably the same people who attacked Kucinich for standing up to them...	Ghost of Huey Long	Jun 2012	#66
Ridicule and propaganda is a cheap tool of oppressors	upi402	Jun 2012	#127
Yup, and it all started with...	joycejnr	Jun 2012	#100
Cold... for now	villager	Jun 2012	#110
Many Of Us Were Ridiculed For Making These Points About The Threat That Is The Right	cantbeserious	Jun 2012	#2
I've been beaten up for saying something like this years ago.........	PDJane	Jun 2012	#3
unfortunately no one is cleaning up the mess	ldf	Jun 2012	#10
And my all-time favorite...	Raster	Jun 2012	#11
some day that powder, surely the world's driest, will end up on ebay.	NRaleighLiberal	Jun 2012	#17
Not ebay, burned off as fireworks for their victory celebration	JHB	Jun 2012	#48
yup	Skittles	Jun 2012	#12
I was harrassed and ridiculed	agent46	Jun 2012	#16
The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away forever.	TeamPooka	Jun 2012	#4
Lucas was warning us.	freshwest	Jun 2012	#83
Spam deleted by gkhouston (MIR Team)	Karen Ellis	Jun 2012	#5
Sign 6.	OnyxCollie	Jun 2012	#6
+1 -nt	CrispyQ	Jun 2012	#65
Ding ding ding.... n/t	clang1	Jun 2012	#85
Like the Washington Generals.	Octafish	Jun 2012	#99
Once upon a time...	Javaman	Jun 2012	#7
Nearly everything that Nixon was accused of is now legal or commonplace.	JDPriestly	Jun 2012	#8
Some people take that as progress, not as the exception n/t	clang1	Jun 2012	#43
It's horrible. And much of the change is due to Cheney's machinations.	JDPriestly	Jun 2012	#46
It didn't help that the left was divided in 2000.	libinnyandia	Jun 2012	#9
The left was no where near divided as painted to be. Hyperbole and negative PR.	Raster	Jun 2012	#14
exactly. n/t	NRaleighLiberal	Jun 2012	#15
It doesn't matter. They were divided enough...	Drunken Irishman	Jun 2012	#22
You nailed it. Thank you.	ancianita	Jun 2012	#28
some of that apathy from the dem side came from the	bbgrunt	Jun 2012	#31
And that's why a great deal of liberals cut their noses off to spite their face...	Drunken Irishman	Jun 2012	#33
....and so we have an endless chicken and egg blame game. nt	bbgrunt	Jun 2012	#38
It's not, tho...	Drunken Irishman	Jun 2012	#39
IMO, voting should be mandatory. n/t	dotymed	Jun 2012	#77
Bush did not 'win' in 2000. Bush was not 'elected' in 2000. Bush	coalition_unwilling	Jun 2012	#53
x2. And I also voted for Gore.	AnotherMcIntosh	Jun 2012	#64
+1000 You need to repeat this post as an OP so more people can see it!	LongTomH	Jun 2012	#82
IMO This thread should be plastered to lamp post on every street corner	clang1	Jun 2012	#90
seems to me the nose cutting is coming from the sensible centrist wing of the party..	frylock	Jun 2012	#89
This 'centrist' wing in most other countries	clang1	Jun 2012	#92
You alienate yourself by not voting or voting third party...	Drunken Irishman	Jun 2012	#94
bend over backwards?! that's fucking rich..	frylock	Jun 2012	#95
And you don't get those 'traditional Democratic values'...	Drunken Irishman	Jun 2012	#98
Completely ridiculous to say this and your wrong	clang1	Jun 2012	#104
I'm wrong?	Drunken Irishman	Jun 2012	#105
You do not see the forest for the trees	clang1	Jun 2012	#106
Right. Why should we hold people responsible for the way they vote/don't vote...	Drunken Irishman	Jun 2012	#108
NOT EVERYONE ONE WANTS ALL YOUR CANDIDATES. Don't you get that!	clang1	Jun 2012	#109
I know they don't.	Drunken Irishman	Jun 2012	#111
the nader blamers are just like birthers in my book..	frylock	Jun 2012	#136
you just keep doing what you're doing and enjoy your little right-wing party..	frylock	Jun 2012	#135
Well .....	clang1	Jun 2012	#103
Since Oregon made vote by mail the system of the state their turn-out has been exceptional	Bandit	Jun 2012	#75
68 the last time Americans gave a damn ...	CRH	Jun 2012	#107
Nader ran a campaign that divided the left. Enough people voted for him to make possible the	libinnyandia	Jun 2012	#55
Nader voters were heavily outnumbered by Democrats who voted for Bush.	Tierra_y_Libertad	Jun 2012	#114
Nader's numbers in Florida and New Hampshire made the difference. If Gore had carried NH, he	libinnyandia	Jun 2012	#115
Then Gore should have sought out the votes of the left, which he didn't.	Tierra_y_Libertad	Jun 2012	#116
When you have a man like Nader telling people not to vote for Gore, then Nader shares some	libinnyandia	Jun 2012	#122
Why should Nader tell his voters to vote for his opponent? Did Gore tell his to vote for Nader?	Tierra_y_Libertad	Jun 2012	#129
In a perfect world what happened here in 2000 would not happen. There are tremendous diffrences	libinnyandia	Jun 2012	#131
Do you feel "good" when voting for "not as bad"?	Tierra_y_Libertad	Jun 2012	#133
I feel good when "not as bad" defeats evil. A Gore administration would have been much better	libinnyandia	Jun 2012	#134
Seems 99% of the people here just still are not getting it	clang1	Jun 2012	#132
"divided in 2000"....	bvar22	Jun 2012	#80
But if we hold up signs and shout loud enough, they might go away. nt	Comrade_McKenzie	Jun 2012	#13
Yeah. That 'll work. It's working even now. NOT. n/t	loudsue	Jun 2012	#18
We've all been witness to a slow motion coup that started with the mugging of	TheDebbieDee	Jun 2012	#19
I told people back in 2000 that is was a coup	eztalker2	Jun 2012	#20
welcome to DU!	NRaleighLiberal	Jun 2012	#21
Thanks...	eztalker2	Jun 2012	#29
Neither am I - but it is the 2004 coup that sent me to DU.	NRaleighLiberal	Jun 2012	#58
Welcome to DU, eztalker2!	kdmorris	Jun 2012	#49
I feel very angry about it too.	Quantess	Jun 2012	#59
Thanks for joining us, I think the same thing	Tumbulu	Jun 2012	#119
Roberts and Alito were put on the court because they were committed FASCISTS. Bush family's NWO	blm	Jun 2012	#23
Democrats did nothing to stop their appointmenst. Now the Republicans wont permit the	rhett o rick	Jun 2012	#24
Kerry did launch a filibuster - Schumer and Clinton argued against it in caucus, then	blm	Jun 2012	#60
If my memory serves me, my senator Patti Murry responded to my	rhett o rick	Jun 2012	#81
The author left out 2 other key pieces of their take over:	Dustlawyer	Jun 2012	#25
Didn't the McDonald's lady get a reduced settlement anyway?	Blanks	Jun 2012	#56
Considering that Roberts as an attorney went to Florida and quietly advised Jeb Bush on the recount	Samantha	Jun 2012	#26
"Once on the bench, for life" - They can be impeached (House) and removed	davidwparker	Jun 2012	#27
See where we are at with 'Checks and balances' n/t	clang1	Jun 2012	#79
The founding fathers never planned for stolen elections.	pa28	Jun 2012	#30
Another sign? Here's an important one. How can the general public be opposed to wage-lowering,	AnotherMcIntosh	Jun 2012	#32
Health care would have been a better example	clang1	Jun 2012	#40
A better example of what exactly?	AnotherMcIntosh	Jun 2012	#42
You'll figure it out n/t	clang1	Jun 2012	#45
I wonder if	Quantess	Jun 2012	#61
+1	clang1	Jun 2012	#97
Did this "Coup" end with the election of Obama?	donheld	Jun 2012	#34
Nope everything PROGRESSES when you don't stop things	clang1	Jun 2012	#41
I'd call it a "coup" but not the way we traditionally think of it.	pa28	Jun 2012	#44
I agree with you 100%. It is the polarization,	clang1	Jun 2012	#128
No one should even need to read an article like this to see	clang1	Jun 2012	#35
The coup was started in 2000 with Bush V. Gore.	Initech	Jun 2012	#36
Yeah.. Planning began well before, but yeah	clang1	Jun 2012	#37
The billionaire class in society have solidified themselves as the real terrorists in this country.	Initech	Jun 2012	#73
The Coup Began With The Powell Memo In 1971	cantbeserious	Jun 2012	#102
No, it started November 22, 1963	dflprincess	Jun 2012	#118
agreed!!!	Dan	Jun 2012	#124
Great post/information - thanks.	NRaleighLiberal	Jun 2012	#125
K&R. n/t	DLevine	Jun 2012	#47
I found another sign of a coup when I clicked on the link to the article	bupkus	Jun 2012	#50
Our political system	sulphurdunn	Jun 2012	#51
"Is undergoing"? - Fallows' use of present progressive belies the	coalition_unwilling	Jun 2012	#52
K&R	raouldukelives	Jun 2012	#54
Massive amt of money and a public that is anesthetized by the TV - and apathy.	NRaleighLiberal	Jun 2012	#57
The GOP along with their supporters operates with information like the	clang1	Jun 2012	#67
Don't forget all the voter suppression and union busting at the state level.	moondust	Jun 2012	#62
Just why is it they so utterly RABID when it comes to those voting machines	clang1	Jun 2012	#71
none of this would be possible without complicity of the corporate media, using our public airwaves	Ghost of Huey Long	Jun 2012	#68
The major media in this country are frankly little more than	clang1	Jun 2012	#87
I knew it was a coup when it happened	lunatica	Jun 2012	#69
yes, then they were so brazen as to put their PNAC plans on a website for all to read	Ghost of Huey Long	Jun 2012	#70
Yes. The perfect excuse for the PNAC agenda	lunatica	Jun 2012	#72
More like "underwent a coup"	Doctor_J	Jun 2012	#74
I knew it when the second plane hit. PNAC confirmed it. nt	valerief	Jun 2012	#76
"Underwent" a coup, since it has already happened...	mother earth	Jun 2012	#78
k&r n/t	RainDog	Jun 2012	#84
I'm not laughing. You could see it happen during 2000.	southernyankeebelle	Jun 2012	#86
We are living through & witnesses to what will go down in history as the destruction of the U.S.	tpsbmam	Jun 2012	#88
Personally, I think that	RoccoR5955	Jun 2012	#91
Dick Cheney's wife is writing history books	Ghost of Huey Long	Jun 2012	#93
They've already done it with Reagan	Adenoid_Hynkel	Jun 2012	#112
There are days I believe this country is dying	47of74	Jun 2012	#96
HUGE K & R !!!	WillyT	Jun 2012	#101
There appears to be a huge consensus that it's all over...	joycejnr	Jun 2012	#120
what indeed? I think all of us who are aware have much to ponder - and even more to do.	NRaleighLiberal	Jun 2012	#121
That was the point of Occupy Wall Street.	Quantess	Jun 2012	#130
Great Read	Tsiyu	Jun 2012	#123
Fallows has a habbit	upi402	Jun 2012	#126

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