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Mosby

(16,263 posts)
10. we need trade agreements and probably tariffs
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 12:59 AM
Jan 2017

Like this guy talked about:

What about free trade?
A: We’ve gone the first mile. I don’t disagree with the premise of the free traders. But we need an emerging middle class in these countries, and we’re not getting one. So now is the time to have labor and environmental standards attached to trade agreements.
Q: What if they say no?
A: Then I’d say, “Fine, that’s the end of free trade.”
Q: What do you mean, that’s the end of free trade? Then we slap tariffs on these countries?
A: Yes.
Q: So you’d be in favor of tariffs at that point.
A: If necessary. Look, Jimmy Carter did this in foreign policy. If you can’t get people to observe human rights, and say that we’re going to accept products from countries that have kids working no overtime, no time and a half, no reasonable safety precautions-- I don’t think we ought to be buying those kinds of products in this country. We’re enabling that to happen.


http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Howard_Dean_Free_Trade.htm

Sure. Trump will trade our reputation tavernier Jan 2017 #1
Actually, I think Trump will trade Ukraine for Russian oil... Wounded Bear Jan 2017 #2
Perhaps Russia does want that. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #3
As I'm of Latvian heritage, tavernier Jan 2017 #4
I mean for the next presidential election. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #6
It certainly bears discussion... Wounded Bear Jan 2017 #9
Trade agreements don't prevent states from establishing environmental or labor regulations. DanTex Jan 2017 #5
We have never used our economic influence in Asia to achieve anything progressive or positive. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #8
That's not true. E.g. TPP was going to achieve something progressive, which is improvement DanTex Jan 2017 #11
Trade did that. We didn't have to have NAFTA or GATT to have trade, though. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #12
Yeah, we did. Not just those, but tons of other smaller trade agreements with different countries. DanTex Jan 2017 #16
TPP was the best we had under the best president. anything else this president does will be far JI7 Jan 2017 #7
I didn't say Trump would do anything good. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #13
we need trade agreements and probably tariffs Mosby Jan 2017 #10
Some of the ideas there are good. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #14
I agree, call it "fair trade". Mosby Jan 2017 #19
Start talking? Some of us have been trying to do this for decades. Motown_Johnny Jan 2017 #15
Let me rephrase that...can't we bring in these other great ideas about trade Ken Burch Jan 2017 #17
Problem is, there are vast disparities in wage levels between countries. DanTex Jan 2017 #18
That's exactly what TPP attempted to do maxrandb Jan 2017 #21
TPP was an attempt to expand American power via trade deals. Motown_Johnny Jan 2017 #22
Sure maxrandb Jan 2017 #20
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