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118. The voters are victims?

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Fri Jun 22, 2012, 06:25 PM

Jun 2012

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The Dems have only themselves to blame for the proliferation of Republicanoid zombies [View all] Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 OP

Don't leave out $1BILLION of brainwashing. BlueToTheBone Jun 2012 #1

See #4 Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #2

Counter It With What? AndyTiedye Jun 2012 #8

First of all, with the truth, by using, as LBJ did, Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #9

You're a one woman campaign of hating on the democrats. BlueToTheBone Jun 2012 #87

Frankly, I don't feel that enthusiastic about supporting a party that has betrayed almost all of its Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #90

You nailed it Lydia...they have been inept... rfranklin Jun 2012 #3

The party has been embracing the right and spurning the left since 1992. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2012 #4

And his deal with the republicans renewing the tax cuts for the wealthy. Autumn Jun 2012 #5

Well said. Thanks for saying it so clearly and forcefully. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #6

Approval from their wealthy contributors? Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #7

It certainly appears that way. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #10

They certainly are not going to bite the hand that feeds them, just to make life easier for the SammyWinstonJack Jun 2012 #88

Well, that settles it then Summer Hathaway Jun 2012 #11

If only real Democrats were running the country, Autumn Jun 2012 #13

If only people who take it upon themselves Summer Hathaway Jun 2012 #15

Back atcha Autumn Jun 2012 #16

Real democrats are easy to recognize. They do not support Republican policies. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #51

Yes, we were told that we were "too far left," whatever that is, Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #53

"Real democrats are easy to recognize." Summer Hathaway Jun 2012 #66

Exactly my point. Supporting Bush policies, eg is a good sign you are not talking to a sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #79

They could if they were voted in. treestar Jun 2012 #97

Most of the people who would be good at getting something done have been Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #47

Yeah, right, whatever. Summer Hathaway Jun 2012 #67

So are lame excuses for inaction Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #91

It does not boil down to certain people treestar Jun 2012 #98

plus the past 3 years of appeasing and placating repubs...ooops, being bipartisan nt msongs Jun 2012 #12

The party is only as strong as its grassroots. I remember when I finally realized why Reagan won: struggle4progress Jun 2012 #14

Carter Didn't Stand a Chance Against Reagan AndyTiedye Jun 2012 #17

Blaming the victims treestar Jun 2012 #18

re: quit lazily blaming the Democratic Party clang1 Jun 2012 #20

+1,000,000! Zalatix Jun 2012 #26

The people are the victims, not the politicians.. Fumesucker Jun 2012 #21

There are too many authoritarian clang1 Jun 2012 #22

Then the people can elect different politicians treestar Jun 2012 #95

You were talking about blaming the victims.. Fumesucker Jun 2012 #108

There are no victims treestar Jun 2012 #120

You were the one that used the term "victims". Fumesucker Jun 2012 #125

Thank you clang1 Jun 2012 #19

Is it cowardice or complicity? MrSlayer Jun 2012 #23

complicity n/t clang1 Jun 2012 #24

Something happened between the time Democrats were willing to take Nixon to task Art_from_Ark Jun 2012 #52

Yes, I noticed that in 1981, the Dems suddenly lost their taste for fighting back, with Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #54

Some of the most progressive members of Congress, Art_from_Ark Jun 2012 #70

But the ones who did fight, like Henry Gonzalez of Texas, got no respect Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #71

Nunn was touted by the *cough* liberal media Art_from_Ark Jun 2012 #73

Two names. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #110

Part of the problem and not the solution....Complicity. SammyWinstonJack Jun 2012 #89

Exactly right Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #121

Have you ever ProSense Jun 2012 #25

Lists like these clang1 Jun 2012 #28

Yeah, the list Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #29

I don't know... clang1 Jun 2012 #31

Not having been on DU very long, you may not know Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #33

re: Not having been on DU very long, you may not know clang1 Jun 2012 #35

Nonsense ProSense Jun 2012 #36

So, you admit that health care reform it didn't go far enough? Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #43

If it had ProSense Jun 2012 #48

So are Obama / Democrats back to supporting the Public Option? leftstreet Jun 2012 #60

Of course the ACA needs to be strengthened but the DLC and the POTUS aka Current party leader KatChatter Jun 2012 #81

This is how it would have gone down if our leaders were genuine. MrSlayer Jun 2012 #74

Teh Moderates. Major Hogwash Jun 2012 #77

Wouldn't ProSense Jun 2012 #34

Nothing, but the Dems have not blown their own horn Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #37

Wait ProSense Jun 2012 #42

Most of The List is trivial or exaggerated, and the few biggies that are on it Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #49

Then ProSense Jun 2012 #50

Why are the Republicans gaining strength even though they haven't done anything? Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #32

Seriously ProSense Jun 2012 #38

+1 re: You say "voters are not rational," but you're making the case for why they shouldn't be. n/t clang1 Jun 2012 #41

I hear what you are saying but list or not? clang1 Jun 2012 #39

good post. The dems seem to have given up the bbgrunt Jun 2012 #27

re: it's more like firing them for incompetence and finding somebody that will do the job. clang1 Jun 2012 #30

yay, more anti-dem campaigning during an election season. dionysus Jun 2012 #40

I want the Dems to win Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #45

Yay, more worrying about what Republicans might think over doing what is right. And that's sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #57

HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2012 #44

re: yay, more anti-dem campaigning during an election season. clang1 Jun 2012 #46

knr nt slipslidingaway Jun 2012 #55

We've got to push our Democrats back to our core values and fight for them. Be the Dems' scary Overseas Jun 2012 #56

This is what OWS could have done, should have done. MrSlayer Jun 2012 #58

re: we should have co-opted the fucking party ourselves like the baggers and Paulites did to the puk clang1 Jun 2012 #68

They do a great job. Could be "Both And" instead of "Either Or" Overseas Jun 2012 #92

Thanks for the great post, my friend. stevedeshazer Jun 2012 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author quinnox Jun 2012 #60

yup, the Dem party have been wussies for a long time now, K&R quinnox Jun 2012 #64

re: Dem party have been wussies for a long time now clang1 Jun 2012 #69

K&R The smell of that big money is too much. raouldukelives Jun 2012 #65

re: 'But once that is done we need to figure out what just what we stand for clang1 Jun 2012 #72

Great post, Lydia. Vidar Jun 2012 #75

You TOTALLY nailed it, you're EXACTLY on point! Raine Jun 2012 #76

Oh so true true true. Major Hogwash Jun 2012 #78

I won't even read the responses. Le Taz Hot Jun 2012 #80

Interesting post malaise Jun 2012 #82

Well, I was mostly focusing on why there are so many right-wing zombies Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #93

K&R. n/t DLevine Jun 2012 #83

The "Dems" are not a disembodied other entity quaker bill Jun 2012 #84

Showing up at meetings? Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #85

I had a different experience quaker bill Jun 2012 #112

And why was it a two-person race when there were six candidates? I'll tell you why Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #114

I was not fooled quaker bill Jun 2012 #134

Exactly.. sendero Jun 2012 #86

I don't believe in the seven deadly sins. I believe in one: greed. CrispyQ Jun 2012 #94

Heh not all these stories are just days old nor are the topics either clang1 Jun 2012 #100

The country is a republic treestar Jun 2012 #96

Were it such a simple black and white world lol n/t. clang1 Jun 2012 #99

Having our representatives *stand for something* besides mild criticism of the Republicans Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #115

The American voters also complain if a politician would do what he wants treestar Jun 2012 #117

Examples? Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #119

Though not DU, the country as a whole was fine with Iraq at the time treestar Jun 2012 #123

Except for the tens of thousands of people who marched in every major city in the country Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #124

So if that's the silver bullet why are we still talking in abstractions Telly Savalas Jun 2012 #127

I've hardly been at DU in the past couple of months, for various reasons, and I came back to find Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #130

I see it a little differently Dokkie Jun 2012 #101

You blame the victims clang1 Jun 2012 #103

Yes, the voters are not blameless Dokkie Jun 2012 #107

The voters are victims? treestar Jun 2012 #118

NYTimes writer calls it "defacto mouthpieces for conservative agitprop" just1voice Jun 2012 #102

You are correct clang1 Jun 2012 #105

"The Dems have abandoned the working class" is "conservative propaganda"? Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #109

yup--for the most part, Democrats in Congress for the last few decades have no moral compass librechik Jun 2012 #104

I've seen countless Establishment-oriented DUers excuse appalling Congressional votes Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #122

K&R Lydia Carolina Jun 2012 #106

!!! FiveGoodMen Jun 2012 #111

Why single out the Dems? GeorgeGist Jun 2012 #113

Your average American is not very intellectually curious Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #116

If it's the establishment Democrats who let the GOP get away with this Telly Savalas Jun 2012 #128

A short time observing the workings of your local or state party Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #129

A bunch of imbeciles who voted for Republicans like Reagan, Bush 1 and Bush The Idiot are to blame NNN0LHI Jun 2012 #126

Yes, but that happened because the Republicanites were out in front with the propaganda Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #131

Yes, there are plenty of excuses for voting for the three scum suckers I listed above NNN0LHI Jun 2012 #132

Hey, I've learned that lots of people really are stupid Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #133

The 50-50 split is a sure sign of some kind of collusion. Bonobo Jun 2012 #135