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73. Yeah, and he tells them in such a way that is false, denigrating, and

Sun Jan 8, 2017, 12:17 AM

Jan 2017

divisive.

He says we lost because "we're out of touch"? But, he lost the Primary by all almost 4 Million Votes and Hillary won the GE by almost 3 Million votes. And, only lost the Electoral by about a 100, 000 Votes.

So who is out of touch?

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Here's the thing...if we bar Bernie and the Sanders movement from playing any role in the party... [View all] Ken Burch Jan 2017 OP

Here! Here! I couldn't have said it better myself! LongTomH Jan 2017 #1

Would the purists stand for it? TheCowsCameHome Jan 2017 #2

On which side? NWCorona Jan 2017 #9

Hillary won the popular vote by aprox 3 million votes right?..... Little Star Jan 2017 #3

Sure. No problem. Just a little constitutional amendment.... The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2017 #6

I don't dispute the popular vote victory. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #7

I am not arguing with your points..... Little Star Jan 2017 #10

I've just started a thread on an achievable approach to the EC problem... Ken Burch Jan 2017 #15

That proposal is really weak and has no chance in the real world Gothmog Jan 2017 #120

How precisely are you going to do that without getting the voters with a vested interest Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #27

But she lost by less than 100,000 votes in a few states alarimer Jan 2017 #65

We need to empower those state Democratic Parties crazycatlady Jan 2017 #100

What do you think that the parties are doing now? Gothmog Jan 2017 #121

Thanks for the update crazycatlady Jan 2017 #122

Harris County went solidly blue Gothmog Jan 2017 #127

keep up the good work crazycatlady Jan 2017 #130

Why do we want to bar anybody? DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #4

Well said. emulatorloo Jan 2017 #12

I'm with you, DSB. greatauntoftriplets Jan 2017 #30

Well said as usual...nt Demsrule86 Jan 2017 #44

Very good post bdamomma Jan 2017 #67

Yep gulliver Jan 2017 #68

Have we identified who is being barred yet? Gothmog Jan 2017 #129

How are they being prevented from playing any role in the party? What role do they want to play? n/t delisen Jan 2017 #5

Bernie's ideas of returning the Democratic Party to its New Deal roots is a winner! Chasstev365 Jan 2017 #8

The party is and should remain a big tent. hrmjustin Jan 2017 #11

Kind of what I was saying. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #17

Just gotta learn that they wont get everything they want. Or most things even. Thats life bravenak Jan 2017 #13

OK. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #16

They should not need hands held to fight for their beliefs bravenak Jan 2017 #20

It's not about hands being held...it's about mutual respect. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #24

Are they willing to give the same respect that they want? I do not see that at all bravenak Jan 2017 #25

Yes! And just how do we trust people who prefer Trump/Putin over our own nominee? radical noodle Jan 2017 #38

I'm with ya, straight up bravenak Jan 2017 #41

Many are Ds & they know he's rancid, but they're living in counties with double-digit unemployment, SMC22307 Jan 2017 #95

I'm not talking about those people radical noodle Jan 2017 #96

I'm a lifelong Democrat and "followed" Bernie since the early Iraq days. SMC22307 Jan 2017 #99

Of course I don't think our current position is acceptable radical noodle Jan 2017 #107

I have close ties to NC, and have attended a couple of Rev. Barber's Moral Mondays. SMC22307 Jan 2017 #116

The baby represents our values radical noodle Jan 2017 #131

You are really good at this unity thing! Dustlawyer Jan 2017 #81

Where did I say ALL? bravenak Jan 2017 #82

Republicans fully control both legislative chambers in 32 states; Democrats only 13. SMC22307 Jan 2017 #94

There is not a blanket approach to this radical noodle Jan 2017 #97

You would not believe how badly the Sanders delegates to the national convention acted Gothmog Jan 2017 #124

"just shut up and take what you're given and not ever try for more" NastyRiffraff Jan 2017 #134

That worked as a campaign slogan, huh? OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #45

Silly bravenak Jan 2017 #46

You're right. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #47

Single Payer went to a vote in Colorado Chitown Kev Jan 2017 #53

This treestar Jan 2017 #108

Who's barring the guy? WhiteTara Jan 2017 #14

who is "we" and who is doing said "barring"? 0rganism Jan 2017 #18

Here's the thing ... NanceGreggs Jan 2017 #19

I was wondering how far down the thread I would go before.... pangaia Jan 2017 #31

Is it really out of line to expect a party leader to actually be part of the party? nini Jan 2017 #63

No he should stay out.. right where he is.. we have plenty of Cha Jan 2017 #72

So please do enlighten us all. NanceGreggs Jan 2017 #74

You don't have to be a Democrat to be part of the Resistance. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #88

Truth! n/t radical noodle Jan 2017 #39

Right. After he didn't win the nom he couldn't switch his registration back fast enough. Demit Jan 2017 #57

Yeah, and he tells them in such a way that is false, denigrating, and Cha Jan 2017 #73

Who is suggesting such a thing, pray tell? MineralMan Jan 2017 #21

The focus on Bernie Sanders with regard to the party changing is misguided portlander23 Jan 2017 #22

+1 uponit7771 Jan 2017 #23

Why would anyone even suggest kicking out Bernie? OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #48

No one serious is. portlander23 Jan 2017 #71

I'm not going to be held by a minority of people in the party. boston bean Jan 2017 #26

Yet Lieberman got away with it. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #49

Got away with what? He was reviled! boston bean Jan 2017 #50

Not by the party. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #51

Leiberman was a registered democrat. boston bean Jan 2017 #52

Revisionist History much? Check your facts. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #54

Yeah, thanks for the reminder. And then he threw bombs from the sidelines. sound familiar. boston bean Jan 2017 #56

And yet where were the calls to strip him of his chairmanship? OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #58

There were calls. boston bean Jan 2017 #60

Well-supported comeback. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #61

As far as I recall, I hope that is supported, people (democrats) hated him for it. boston bean Jan 2017 #62

Hating is one thing. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #75

were you here on DU bak then? boston bean Jan 2017 #76

Yup. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #77

I certainly did n/t radical noodle Jan 2017 #110

I don't like Lieberman DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #85

Whatever that means. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #86

For real. when? DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #87

2013 OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #89

I was being facetious. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #90

If you are a Lieberman fan OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #92

My post verbatim DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #93

Not sure that's relevant treestar Jan 2017 #111

On the other hand, it's completely relevant. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #117

He was the 60th vote in the Congress that was elected treestar Jan 2017 #118

We did the work. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #119

Who is this small minority you're speaking of? YOHABLO Jan 2017 #69

The people who lost the primary by 3 M votes. And who now think they own the party! boston bean Jan 2017 #70

If EVERY Dem acted like Sanders and Warren we would CRUSH the ReSCUMlicans. RBInMaine Jan 2017 #28

DAMN RIGHT! elleng Jan 2017 #36

toi toi toi !!! pangaia Jan 2017 #37

Hear, hear. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #40

Exactly. Maybe when Republicans fully control ALL statehouses and governors' mansions... SMC22307 Jan 2017 #102

The other Dems come from other states though treestar Jan 2017 #113

Here's the thing...some supporters equate criticism with 'barring'. randome Jan 2017 #29

I have no qualms about them having roles in the party so long as they admit they are why we lost. LonePirate Jan 2017 #32

Ouch lol. JHan Jan 2017 #34

In other words, you expect us to accept your false narrative. potone Jan 2017 #64

you'd be utter fools. elleng Jan 2017 #33

My only issue is that I don't want people telling me/us how to run the Party that are not members TeamPooka Jan 2017 #35

Well - Bernie seems to have more ideas and is speaking up more than most "registered democrats" womanofthehills Jan 2017 #78

Today Congress voted to pay government workers $1.00 per hour Demsrule86 Jan 2017 #42

Well said. greatauntoftriplets Jan 2017 #59

You know that nobody is "barring the Bernie Sanders movement", right? brooklynite Jan 2017 #43

If Sanders wants to play a role in the party... Rollo Jan 2017 #55

Agreed-Sanders should run as a democrat in 2018 if he wants to remake the party in his image Gothmog Jan 2017 #128

See *this* is the problem sticking me in the eye: Who is "BARRING Bernie"? UTUSN Jan 2017 #66

I'm afraid that most people have a complete lack of history. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2017 #79

Bernie has been in Political office for decades , even longer than Hillary Clinton JI7 Jan 2017 #80

Even though he's been in political office for a long time, PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2017 #83

it doesn't speak well of him that he has been in office so long and people think he is new JI7 Jan 2017 #84

What it says is that most politics truly is local. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2017 #98

Wonderful post - in its glory days, the Democratic party was truly the big tent party. Yo_Mama Jan 2017 #91

Recommended and totally in agreement. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #101

I have been reading many of these responses and Jake2413 Jan 2017 #103

While I agree with much of your assessment radical noodle Jan 2017 #115

I'm not going anywhere. And it's more than about "this year"... SMC22307 Jan 2017 #104

Bernie really should join the Democratic Party. MineralMan Jan 2017 #105

For all intents and purposes he IS and best typifies progressive activism. MaeScott Jan 2017 #106

Bernie Sanders is not a member of the Democratic Party. MineralMan Jan 2017 #109

Why won't he join it. boston bean Jan 2017 #112

Bernie won't join the party. So who is keeping him from it? boston bean Jan 2017 #114

Who do you think is being barred? Gothmog Jan 2017 #123

Here's the thing: all they have to do to play a role in the Party is to JOIN THE DEM PARTY Hekate Jan 2017 #125

That won't happen. Rex Jan 2017 #126

ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz......... Cary Jan 2017 #132

The Democratic party led by the DNC appearsto be trying to commit suicie bowens43 Jan 2017 #133

Have we figured out who is being barred? Gothmog Jan 2017 #135

yes. And progressives are generally anti-war. So the New McCarthyism and New Russophobia is long yurbud Jan 2017 #136