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54. David Crosby, Larry Hagman, Mickey Mantle, Dick Cheney. Also granted organs based on an "objective"

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Thu Jun 21, 2012, 04:52 PM

Jun 2012

calculus, were they?

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Sick: LA Hospital Denies Life-Saving Organ Transplant to Medical Pot User (Again) [View all] xchrom Jun 2012 OP

But they have all taken the hypocritical oath..er.. pipoman Jun 2012 #1

wtf? ryan_cats Jun 2012 #60

Shameful. n/t DLevine Jun 2012 #2

She should change her name ... GeorgeGist Jun 2012 #3

... SammyWinstonJack Jun 2012 #53

Savage and sick nt MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #4

She knew the rules HotRodTuna Jun 2012 #5

Your hearts as big as all of space JackInGreen Jun 2012 #6

Please HotRodTuna Jun 2012 #11

Let me see. sulphurdunn Jun 2012 #7

At some point she must've signed a contract. Robb Jun 2012 #9

MMJ prescribed by a doctor is no more substance abuse than hydrocodone prescribed by a doctor nashville_brook Jun 2012 #46

Yes, exactly HotRodTuna Jun 2012 #10

Did you read the link? The description of the other patient's experience is more clear. Gormy Cuss Jun 2012 #12

Well, that's obviously an area they're going to have to work out HotRodTuna Jun 2012 #13

And it's good to bring these arbitrary rules into the daylight. Gormy Cuss Jun 2012 #15

I agree with that, it's hard to argue that marijuana is worse than chemo drugs HotRodTuna Jun 2012 #25

Unless you are a transplant physician, or are otherwise qualified Ms. Toad Jun 2012 #28

Believe me, I agree with you HotRodTuna Jun 2012 #44

LOL! Welcome to DU Hot Rod! nt riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #45

. Ms. Toad Jun 2012 #50

Without debating the use of medical marijuana Ms. Toad Jun 2012 #14

I understand that transplant teams work hard at limiting the donors to the most compliant Gormy Cuss Jun 2012 #17

Allocation is done on a completely neutral basis Ms. Toad Jun 2012 #20

Great post. I would second your concerns about the finances riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #31

That is actually very low for savings - Ms. Toad Jun 2012 #36

Perhaps I can answer some of this.... riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #21

Thanks for the addition Ms. Toad Jun 2012 #24

There are major inaccuracies in the article Ms. Toad Jun 2012 #23

+1. nt riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #26

Thanks Gormy Cuss Jun 2012 #40

I have a vested interest in getting good information out there Ms. Toad Jun 2012 #41

Well said. nt MightyOkie Jun 2012 #16

Whats chronic alcoholism got to do with POT ? nm n/t clang1 Jun 2012 #64

These people SUPPORT the War on Drugs. All these cutesy excuses are made up after-the-fact. nt Romulox Jun 2012 #96

medical marijuana is not drug abuse.... spanone Jun 2012 #8

I'm glad you approve of a system that pretends medical marijuana is an excuse to murder people. phleshdef Jun 2012 #27

+10000000000 nashville_brook Jun 2012 #47

Disgusting. nt Romulox Jun 2012 #29

My sister just got a kidney/liver double transplant in February. As the major member of her family riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #18

Could the hospital face a penalty if they went ahead with the transplant? Freddie Stubbs Jun 2012 #19

Yes. The national governing agencies that regulate organ donation could create problems riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #22

LOL. There's a perfectly *rational* explanation for all of this, people. She *signed a contract*! Romulox Jun 2012 #30

How about ingesting smoke on a regular basis weakens your imimune system? randome Jun 2012 #32

SCIENCE, randome--not your musings... nt Romulox Jun 2012 #37

MMJ is edible, and vapable. Smoking not required. nashville_brook Jun 2012 #48

Not sure why that's vomit inducing. riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #33

Right--all of this is -incidental- to your previous support of the Drug War. Romulox Jun 2012 #38

I don't support the Drug War, not in any way shape or form. Never have, never will. riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #42

Right. All that business about your confusion regarding Vicodin's "similarity" to pot? Romulox Jun 2012 #52

It was an analogy, nothing more. Your blatant lying about my positions is duly noted. riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #55

"Analogy" isn't a fancy way of saying "false". What you said was objectively *false*. nt Romulox Jun 2012 #57

Demonstrably patently untrue. I absolutely have never said pot is addictive. Ever. riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #59

You use the word "analogy" like it means "mulligan". You were wrong, and contrive excuses instead Romulox Jun 2012 #63

LOL! Kick! riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #66

Yes. Kicking the story of letting this woman die somehow helps you... Romulox Jun 2012 #68

She's been on the list for 6 years, on dialysis for 5 years. I'm pretty sure she's not in danger riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #70

The "expert" rears her head again! But this time, she's serving a heaping dose of "compassion". nt Romulox Jun 2012 #71

Its in the OP, you too can be as much of an expert on this woman's case as me. Just read it. riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #74

Disgusting. nt Romulox Jun 2012 #79

You have to be listed in order to receive an organ to transplant. Ms. Toad Jun 2012 #35

i have a conflict with the local very popular childrens hospital--they have lots of fund raisers in dembotoz Jun 2012 #34

I'm seriously considering withdrawing my donor status, due to the disgusting abuses of the system... Romulox Jun 2012 #39

Please don't Ms. Toad Jun 2012 #43

David Crosby, Larry Hagman, Mickey Mantle, Dick Cheney. Also granted organs based on an "objective" Romulox Jun 2012 #54

You are propagating dangerous and destructive myths. Please. Just stop. riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #56

LOL. The corruption in the system isn't the problem--it's *TALKING ABOUT IT* that's dangerous. Romulox Jun 2012 #58

Oh please talk about it all you want so we can continue to correct you. nt riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #61

You *just* claimed ignorance of the particulars of these cases, and then demanded I "stop". Romulox Jun 2012 #62

I've never put myself out there as an expert. Just someone with first hand experience riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #67

Then why even respond when you assert *complete ignorance* of these abuses??? Romulox Jun 2012 #69

I said I didn't have the "exact particulars" of their cases (not ignorance). Neither do you. riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #72

You could've googled each one of these cases 10 times over, if you were looking for facts. Romulox Jun 2012 #73

Innocuous items like candy are on the prohibited substances list for potential transplant patients riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #75

Right. There is a "perfect" explanation for letting this woman die. It's all "by the book". nt Romulox Jun 2012 #76

It IS all by the book. Exactly the point. Exactly. And she doesn't HAVE to die if she'd follow riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #81

Once again, both disgusting and devoid of reason. nt Romulox Jun 2012 #97

Follow the transplant team's orders and stay on the transplant list. riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #99

And you still have failed to speak to organ transplant abuse, which is what this subthread is about. Romulox Jun 2012 #77

I have. Clearly you aren't paying attention. Good luck with that. riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #82

So...Dick Cheney COULDN'T have received that heart transplant, eh? Your argument is with reality. nt Romulox Jun 2012 #84

I don't know the exact particulars of Dick Cheney's medical record. Neither do you. riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #88

No. But YOU are the only one claiming that abuse doesn't exist. nt Romulox Jun 2012 #95

Actually I'm not alone on this. There are others right on this very thread riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #98

it most certainly is. And the appeals to emotion have little to do with that set criteria LanternWaste Jun 2012 #89

. riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #90

To answer that question absolutely, Ms. Toad Jun 2012 #93

If you were honest, you would concede abuse. nt Romulox Jun 2012 #94

I am honest. Ms. Toad Jun 2012 #100

clearly a political killing. nashville_brook Jun 2012 #49

Kicking and recommending. Robb Jun 2012 #51

Heh if I ever donated an organ clang1 Jun 2012 #65

You'd have no control over that. riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #80

But it is medical MJ...doesn't that put her in a class Rex Jun 2012 #78

No MJ at all when you're on a transplant list. Even eating certain candy will get you chucked off riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #83

Wow, so have they done extensive studies on MJ and found Rex Jun 2012 #85

I didn't make the protocols for the transplant list. Feel free to email UNOS for that. nt riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #86

Didn't say you did, just made the comment. Rex Jun 2012 #87

Sorry, this subject is very near to me right now riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #91

I hope your sister recovers and lives a long life! Rex Jun 2012 #92