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In reply to the discussion: Assange has requested political asylum & is in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London [View all]Luminous Animal
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Assange has requested political asylum & is in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London [View all]
Are_grits_groceries
Jun 2012
OP
There is no reason for him to go to Sweden. He has not been charged with anything at all.
EFerrari
Jun 2012
#29
It is a well known fact that after two years, there are NO charges, and btw, there were never
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#86
No. That's not really what you want. You're more transparent than you apparently think you are.
DisgustipatedinCA
Jun 2012
#189
We are arguing about the very reason for the existence of Wikileaks, and now other
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#284
I don't think the U.S. government has anything to do with the Swedish filings.
randome
Jun 2012
#286
The Prime Minister has been rebuked by Senate: backs highest level of consular support for Assange
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#301
personally, I find the guy a sickening narcissist, but those charges are ridiculous.
cali
Jun 2012
#32
I don't need to be in love with him to recognize a multi-state lynching party.
EFerrari
Jun 2012
#41
I wish people would stop misusing the word lynching, and as I said, I think the rape charges are
cali
Jun 2012
#48
alright, let me put it this way, I think the two women accusing him of rape are full of shit.
cali
Jun 2012
#55
There are no charges. He has never been charged, nor were there allegations of 'rape'.
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#91
Are you saying Rove doesn't have buddies in Sweden? That is what I am understanding from
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#197
The Swedish people are not laughing, since unlike you, they are aware that their PM
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#263
Eric Holder said out loud on camera that he believed there were tools to handle Assange.
EFerrari
Jun 2012
#43
Do you have a link to your "understanding"? If it's true that the women in question.....
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2012
#114
Actually, Wikileaks supporters have repeatedly succeeded in making news orgs
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#123
That is a false report. He has never been charged, nor have the women even alleged rape.
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#200
The question is why are the leaders of the USA and western allies afraid of the truth.
PufPuf23
Jun 2012
#212
What crimes do you think he's been charged with? The correct answer is ZERO.
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#167
WTF has that got to do with the fact that Julian is not subject to persecution in Sweden
treestar
Jun 2012
#254
So instead of getting the U.K. to extradite him, Karl Rove -at the behest of Obama-
randome
Jun 2012
#275
It would be much easier to extradite him directly from the UK: under current EU agreements, if
struggle4progress
Jun 2012
#187
Swedish prosecuting authority website says that if Sweden extradites someone from another
struggle4progress
Jun 2012
#245
You are right to the extent that Sweden could exercise "conditional release" with
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#247
Why are there no charges from Sweden? Karl Rove's friend over there couldn't come up with
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#84
Well, I could help with knowing about Sweden's judicial process which would have helped
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#106
Well, you said it. I wouldn't have said it, but the 'facts' you have been spreading here
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#120
Randome is the one spreading 'facts'. I just have heard clips where the Aluminatti
tsuki
Jun 2012
#158
The women did not charge rape. I have already provided their own words, refuting that
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#132
Actually Aiden made that statement a day or two after they went to the police...
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#143
Yes, you are correct. The reason for that was a broken condom. Nothing to do with rape.
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#179
I really wish you would do your own work as I don't have time to re-write this
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#147
Notice you don't get down to "Creative Speculation" much after the big move...
apocalypsehow
Jun 2012
#58
Here's a video on why Assange should matter to all who care about freedom of the press...
Octafish
Jun 2012
#125
I'll take a look at your vid as long as it doesn't lapse into anti-semitism
apocalypsehow
Jun 2012
#126
It's not a "lie," Octa, since (1) I didn't say "Kevin Zeese" was anything, and (2) you
apocalypsehow
Jun 2012
#130
Show me where I posted something containing ''anti-semitic implications,'' apocalypsehow.
Octafish
Jun 2012
#131
As for the "PS" in this post, for anyone interested enough to bother with it,
apocalypsehow
Jun 2012
#136
Sure. I think he embarrassed the U.S. government, and exposed some scummy business
apocalypsehow
Jun 2012
#141
Great! Then it should be no problem for him to return to Sweden and set them straight.
apocalypsehow
Jun 2012
#148
I believe that there is a problem and so does Assange. He has repeatedly offered to
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#153
Okay, great! We have a difference of opinion: I think he should return to Sweden, and
apocalypsehow
Jun 2012
#155
There is no way in hell that I would surrender myself to a country that is more
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#159
That's nice. We'll just have to agree to disagree about this point, as I politely
apocalypsehow
Jun 2012
#175
You DO know that if you travel to a foreign country, then are accused of committing an offense
apocalypsehow
Jun 2012
#243
It is not relevant, no matter how much you wish it were. What is relevant is that
apocalypsehow
Jun 2012
#249
As I didn't post the OP or write the article I'm under no obligation to "answer" anything about it.
apocalypsehow
Jun 2012
#186
Yeah, I miss my 'ole buddy Octafish down in CS. He wisely steers clear of it these
apocalypsehow
Jun 2012
#192
You're going to want to back the fuck away from baseless allegations about Octafish
DisgustipatedinCA
Jun 2012
#199
As they are far from "baseless," I think not. But thanks for weighing in!
apocalypsehow
Jun 2012
#216
You do know that a conviction of espionage in the U.S. does carry the possibility of the death
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#166
Yes. I know that there would be a trial first. A trial that could result in a death sentence...
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#172
Facing false charges of 'espionage' because you are a journalist most certainly is persecution.
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#185
How does it make him look hysterical? There have been reports that the US has
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#206
What does the Constitution have to do with conspiring with a member of the armed forces...
randome
Jun 2012
#207
Wikileaks Receives Prestigious Australian Award for Most Outstanding Contribution to Journalism'
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#231
Assange has many friends among world leaders. The new President of Tunisia also gave
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#112
Yes, but the embassy is in London and the courts in the UK are who wants to extradite him,
GarroHorus
Jun 2012
#75
Yeah, those fascist Swedes and their fascist rape and sexual assault laws
Nuclear Unicorn
Jun 2012
#8
Interesting enough, he has not been charged with any crime but has been
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#10
Kinda weird losing an extradition hearings if there's no crime suspected
Nuclear Unicorn
Jun 2012
#13
I suspect you keyed my car. You'll need to come to CA to interview. No, I haven't filed charges.
LeftyMom
Jun 2012
#201
Good point. But why did the UK side with Sweden? Are they part of a conspiracy, too?
randome
Jun 2012
#203
He's white, a citizen of a friendly country, not a Muslim, and in the public eye.
LeftyMom
Jun 2012
#226
Apparently Sweden filed something, hence the public extradition hearing with opposing counsel.
Nuclear Unicorn
Jun 2012
#51
It must be nice to retreat to paranoid fantasies everytime reality intrudes
Nuclear Unicorn
Jun 2012
#79
Why don't you tell me why this farce when he has not been charged with any crime.
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#88
Unless you want to say multiple accusers suddenly fabricated a spree of rapes
Nuclear Unicorn
Jun 2012
#93
There can be no fair hearing until there are charges. ASSANGE isn't holding that up.
EFerrari
Jun 2012
#98
Assange cannot prevent Sweden from filing charges against him. And they have not. n/t
EFerrari
Jun 2012
#177
Nobody can smear Assange except Assange? Christ, I hope your vocation doesn't count on logic
DisgustipatedinCA
Jun 2012
#205
a broken condom does not translate to a spree of rapes..get your facts straight ..nt
xiamiam
Jun 2012
#271
What's a little rape and pillage as long as you have solid anti-American street cred?
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2012
#56
Notice who the "defenders" are. They're the ones who repeatedly tell Democrats how we.....
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2012
#85
Maybe you should have listened to the women themselves, if you're so concerned
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#97
Lol, how did I know you would find that article. The women were not smeared btw, unless
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#110
Looking more carefully at the details, I think there IS room for doubt about either side.
randome
Jun 2012
#133
I don't care whether he is an ass or not. I care that an editor and publisher of an award
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#144
I am not interested in whether you buy it or not. You have admitted to knowing nothing
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#150
He was never charged nor was rape even alleged. Where do you get your information?
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#94
And you know that is not the issue. Sweden is not the issue. Everyone in the world knows
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#195
Since the revelation in the Anonymous leaks that the US has indicted Assange in a secret
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#264
You mean those former co-workers who stole from Wikileaks and claimed that they
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#116
So, you would be willing to put yourself into the hands of one set of state actors
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#162
Nor does trotting out paranoid fantasies let a potential serial rapist off the hook.
Nuclear Unicorn
Jun 2012
#82
His 'accusers' have stated publicly that there was no rape, no accusations from them. So who
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#239
Well you've been all over this thread, but not producing any facts. So, since you have
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#103
He sure is running scared. Innocent people don't usu. do that. Like O.J., when he ran.
Honeycombe8
Jun 2012
#183
He's avoiding Sweden and the U.K. Charges of sexual assault. His fleeing is evid. of guilt.
Honeycombe8
Jun 2012
#214
I suspect you keyed my car. You'll need to come to CA to interview. No, I haven't filed charges.
LeftyMom
Jun 2012
#222
Sexual assault is not keying a car. But if someone accused me of molestation in CA...
Honeycombe8
Jun 2012
#228
That's not the case. The women have a lawyer who has made a statement for them about
Honeycombe8
Jun 2012
#285
Borgström has been reported to the Bar Association for his statements.
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#293
Where's your link? Did you read the statement by their lawyer? Could be that one of the women
Honeycombe8
Jun 2012
#291
Yes, nearly two years after the fact, and unfortunately for the lawyer, the evidence in their
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#294
None of us should be arrogant enough to argue the faults of a sexual encounter.
randome
Jun 2012
#297
There are no legal charges by authorities, but charges have been made by people...
Honeycombe8
Jun 2012
#229
No allegations of rape have ever been made by the women in this case. In fact
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#233
Assange stayed in Sweden for a month, iirc, after this flap arose to handle it.
EFerrari
Jun 2012
#235
Yeah. It's too bad we don't have those fancy things like they had on Star Trek called
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#238