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Warren DeMontague

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36. At six weeks, the "person" you are talking about is the size of a lentil.
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 08:20 PM
Dec 2016

You're gonna have a tough time arguing that there is sentience-level brain development at that point.

"Oh, but there's a heartbeat!"... that must mean it's already a little tiny person, right?

http://www.slate.com/articles/video/video/2015/07/beating_human_heart_tissue_grown_in_lab_video.html

Uh, no. Cells, like heart cells, self-organize to the point of beating. There is a continuum of existence from fertilization to birth, but only anti-choicers take the decidedly theological; not based in science; position that at the moment of conception by magic, this-



becomes the functional (and, by their thinking, legal) equivalent of this.



Now, I like babies too. But a fertilized egg is not a fetus at 6 weeks is not a baby. And regardless, the ONLY person fit to make a determination about what a woman should be "allowed" to do vis a vis her own reproductive system, is the woman in question. These decisions are too crucial, too personal, too life situation-specific, to leave to total strangers, panels of priests, Ohio legislators with a history of domestic violence complaints, etc.



And most abortions take place in the first trimester. This bullshit about women running around pregnant for 8 months and then aborting because they feel like it is James O'Keefe, right-wing bullshit, the same people who want you to believe that Planned Parenthood calles pregnancies "parasitic". Derp.

Thank you for this, Maru.. Cha Dec 2016 #1
Thank you Cha. Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #16
Ohio is sort of the anus of the USA these days isn't it? The_Casual_Observer Dec 2016 #2
LOL... Zing Zing Zingbah Dec 2016 #12
That's unconstitutional. shraby Dec 2016 #3
you think these people care about the constitution? Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #4
+1 uponit7771 Dec 2016 #6
Exactly. Trump's specific goal is to overturn Roe vs Wade. This stuff is just the start. anneboleyn Dec 2016 #10
Yes it is gratuitous Dec 2016 #22
Yes, clearly not under Roe v. Wade treestar Dec 2016 #27
K&R Solly Mack Dec 2016 #5
Good, good.... Aviation Pro Dec 2016 #7
Hey, Ladies! Meet the man who wants to be up all in your business! Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #8
"Girls" get upset when you get loaded and Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #9
He sounds like a real piece of work. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #20
This should make the Trump apologists happy BainsBane Dec 2016 #11
Because buzzwords are cool and trendy! Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #14
And so it begins - the dismantling of progress made. MineralMan Dec 2016 #13
We did miss our chance...to really Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #15
I don't think this would be the worst thing in the world. Hortensis Dec 2016 #17
You forgot your sarcasm tag. Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #18
Not sarcasm. And we're still a ways from losing Hortensis Dec 2016 #19
So you would force birth, in rape, in incest, in suicidal women? Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #23
I'm pro abortion, Maru, for any reason, right up to Hortensis Dec 2016 #29
You are pro forced birth. You said it yourself quite clearly. You don't trust women. Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #30
What the fuck is going on? ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #34
At six weeks, the "person" you are talking about is the size of a lentil. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #36
Good grief. This reaction reminds me of what we're seeing Hortensis Dec 2016 #37
Post #17. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #38
WTF? What two people? etherealtruth Dec 2016 #40
Oh, barf. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #21
For years I have been saying that once a woman finds out she's pregnant, even two weeks pregnant, phylny Dec 2016 #24
You can't get an abortion before a heartbeat is detected, IIRC. ecstatic Dec 2016 #25
Empathy for the pockets of Ohio progressives ... Auggie Dec 2016 #26
Yes! I've already plastered this all over FB and my email list. Guilded Lilly Dec 2016 #28
yet even in this thread we are told this wouldn't be "the worst thing in the world" Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #31
Just do what you can do and stay focused on the Guilded Lilly Dec 2016 #32
I will be happy to surrender control of my body Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #35
What you said. ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #33
Maybe Kasich won't sign it. It will cost the state a fortune in court challenges. Vinca Dec 2016 #39
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