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In reply to the discussion: Assange has requested political asylum & is in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London [View all]sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)241. But what if no one accused of molestation but a government demanded you
turn yourself over for 'questioning'? What would you do, especially when the 'alleged victims' have publicly stated they have NOT accused you of molestation? What would you think?
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Are_grits_groceries
Jun 2012
OP
There is no reason for him to go to Sweden. He has not been charged with anything at all.
EFerrari
Jun 2012
#29
It is a well known fact that after two years, there are NO charges, and btw, there were never
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#86
No. That's not really what you want. You're more transparent than you apparently think you are.
DisgustipatedinCA
Jun 2012
#189
We are arguing about the very reason for the existence of Wikileaks, and now other
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#284
I don't think the U.S. government has anything to do with the Swedish filings.
randome
Jun 2012
#286
The Prime Minister has been rebuked by Senate: backs highest level of consular support for Assange
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#301
personally, I find the guy a sickening narcissist, but those charges are ridiculous.
cali
Jun 2012
#32
I don't need to be in love with him to recognize a multi-state lynching party.
EFerrari
Jun 2012
#41
I wish people would stop misusing the word lynching, and as I said, I think the rape charges are
cali
Jun 2012
#48
alright, let me put it this way, I think the two women accusing him of rape are full of shit.
cali
Jun 2012
#55
There are no charges. He has never been charged, nor were there allegations of 'rape'.
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#91
Are you saying Rove doesn't have buddies in Sweden? That is what I am understanding from
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#197
The Swedish people are not laughing, since unlike you, they are aware that their PM
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#263
Eric Holder said out loud on camera that he believed there were tools to handle Assange.
EFerrari
Jun 2012
#43
Do you have a link to your "understanding"? If it's true that the women in question.....
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2012
#114
Actually, Wikileaks supporters have repeatedly succeeded in making news orgs
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#123
That is a false report. He has never been charged, nor have the women even alleged rape.
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#200
The question is why are the leaders of the USA and western allies afraid of the truth.
PufPuf23
Jun 2012
#212
What crimes do you think he's been charged with? The correct answer is ZERO.
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#167
WTF has that got to do with the fact that Julian is not subject to persecution in Sweden
treestar
Jun 2012
#254
So instead of getting the U.K. to extradite him, Karl Rove -at the behest of Obama-
randome
Jun 2012
#275
It would be much easier to extradite him directly from the UK: under current EU agreements, if
struggle4progress
Jun 2012
#187
Swedish prosecuting authority website says that if Sweden extradites someone from another
struggle4progress
Jun 2012
#245
You are right to the extent that Sweden could exercise "conditional release" with
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#247
Why are there no charges from Sweden? Karl Rove's friend over there couldn't come up with
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#84
Well, I could help with knowing about Sweden's judicial process which would have helped
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#106
Well, you said it. I wouldn't have said it, but the 'facts' you have been spreading here
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#120
Randome is the one spreading 'facts'. I just have heard clips where the Aluminatti
tsuki
Jun 2012
#158
The women did not charge rape. I have already provided their own words, refuting that
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#132
Actually Aiden made that statement a day or two after they went to the police...
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#143
Yes, you are correct. The reason for that was a broken condom. Nothing to do with rape.
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#179
I really wish you would do your own work as I don't have time to re-write this
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#147
Notice you don't get down to "Creative Speculation" much after the big move...
apocalypsehow
Jun 2012
#58
Here's a video on why Assange should matter to all who care about freedom of the press...
Octafish
Jun 2012
#125
I'll take a look at your vid as long as it doesn't lapse into anti-semitism
apocalypsehow
Jun 2012
#126
It's not a "lie," Octa, since (1) I didn't say "Kevin Zeese" was anything, and (2) you
apocalypsehow
Jun 2012
#130
Show me where I posted something containing ''anti-semitic implications,'' apocalypsehow.
Octafish
Jun 2012
#131
As for the "PS" in this post, for anyone interested enough to bother with it,
apocalypsehow
Jun 2012
#136
Sure. I think he embarrassed the U.S. government, and exposed some scummy business
apocalypsehow
Jun 2012
#141
Great! Then it should be no problem for him to return to Sweden and set them straight.
apocalypsehow
Jun 2012
#148
I believe that there is a problem and so does Assange. He has repeatedly offered to
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#153
Okay, great! We have a difference of opinion: I think he should return to Sweden, and
apocalypsehow
Jun 2012
#155
There is no way in hell that I would surrender myself to a country that is more
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#159
That's nice. We'll just have to agree to disagree about this point, as I politely
apocalypsehow
Jun 2012
#175
You DO know that if you travel to a foreign country, then are accused of committing an offense
apocalypsehow
Jun 2012
#243
It is not relevant, no matter how much you wish it were. What is relevant is that
apocalypsehow
Jun 2012
#249
As I didn't post the OP or write the article I'm under no obligation to "answer" anything about it.
apocalypsehow
Jun 2012
#186
Yeah, I miss my 'ole buddy Octafish down in CS. He wisely steers clear of it these
apocalypsehow
Jun 2012
#192
You're going to want to back the fuck away from baseless allegations about Octafish
DisgustipatedinCA
Jun 2012
#199
As they are far from "baseless," I think not. But thanks for weighing in!
apocalypsehow
Jun 2012
#216
You do know that a conviction of espionage in the U.S. does carry the possibility of the death
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#166
Yes. I know that there would be a trial first. A trial that could result in a death sentence...
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#172
Facing false charges of 'espionage' because you are a journalist most certainly is persecution.
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#185
How does it make him look hysterical? There have been reports that the US has
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#206
What does the Constitution have to do with conspiring with a member of the armed forces...
randome
Jun 2012
#207
Wikileaks Receives Prestigious Australian Award for Most Outstanding Contribution to Journalism'
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#231
Assange has many friends among world leaders. The new President of Tunisia also gave
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#112
Yes, but the embassy is in London and the courts in the UK are who wants to extradite him,
GarroHorus
Jun 2012
#75
Yeah, those fascist Swedes and their fascist rape and sexual assault laws
Nuclear Unicorn
Jun 2012
#8
Interesting enough, he has not been charged with any crime but has been
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#10
Kinda weird losing an extradition hearings if there's no crime suspected
Nuclear Unicorn
Jun 2012
#13
I suspect you keyed my car. You'll need to come to CA to interview. No, I haven't filed charges.
LeftyMom
Jun 2012
#201
Good point. But why did the UK side with Sweden? Are they part of a conspiracy, too?
randome
Jun 2012
#203
He's white, a citizen of a friendly country, not a Muslim, and in the public eye.
LeftyMom
Jun 2012
#226
Apparently Sweden filed something, hence the public extradition hearing with opposing counsel.
Nuclear Unicorn
Jun 2012
#51
It must be nice to retreat to paranoid fantasies everytime reality intrudes
Nuclear Unicorn
Jun 2012
#79
Why don't you tell me why this farce when he has not been charged with any crime.
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#88
Unless you want to say multiple accusers suddenly fabricated a spree of rapes
Nuclear Unicorn
Jun 2012
#93
There can be no fair hearing until there are charges. ASSANGE isn't holding that up.
EFerrari
Jun 2012
#98
Assange cannot prevent Sweden from filing charges against him. And they have not. n/t
EFerrari
Jun 2012
#177
Nobody can smear Assange except Assange? Christ, I hope your vocation doesn't count on logic
DisgustipatedinCA
Jun 2012
#205
a broken condom does not translate to a spree of rapes..get your facts straight ..nt
xiamiam
Jun 2012
#271
What's a little rape and pillage as long as you have solid anti-American street cred?
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2012
#56
Notice who the "defenders" are. They're the ones who repeatedly tell Democrats how we.....
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2012
#85
Maybe you should have listened to the women themselves, if you're so concerned
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#97
Lol, how did I know you would find that article. The women were not smeared btw, unless
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#110
Looking more carefully at the details, I think there IS room for doubt about either side.
randome
Jun 2012
#133
I don't care whether he is an ass or not. I care that an editor and publisher of an award
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#144
I am not interested in whether you buy it or not. You have admitted to knowing nothing
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#150
He was never charged nor was rape even alleged. Where do you get your information?
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#94
And you know that is not the issue. Sweden is not the issue. Everyone in the world knows
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#195
Since the revelation in the Anonymous leaks that the US has indicted Assange in a secret
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#264
You mean those former co-workers who stole from Wikileaks and claimed that they
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#116
So, you would be willing to put yourself into the hands of one set of state actors
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#162
Nor does trotting out paranoid fantasies let a potential serial rapist off the hook.
Nuclear Unicorn
Jun 2012
#82
His 'accusers' have stated publicly that there was no rape, no accusations from them. So who
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#239
Well you've been all over this thread, but not producing any facts. So, since you have
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#103
He sure is running scared. Innocent people don't usu. do that. Like O.J., when he ran.
Honeycombe8
Jun 2012
#183
He's avoiding Sweden and the U.K. Charges of sexual assault. His fleeing is evid. of guilt.
Honeycombe8
Jun 2012
#214
I suspect you keyed my car. You'll need to come to CA to interview. No, I haven't filed charges.
LeftyMom
Jun 2012
#222
Sexual assault is not keying a car. But if someone accused me of molestation in CA...
Honeycombe8
Jun 2012
#228
That's not the case. The women have a lawyer who has made a statement for them about
Honeycombe8
Jun 2012
#285
Borgström has been reported to the Bar Association for his statements.
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#293
Where's your link? Did you read the statement by their lawyer? Could be that one of the women
Honeycombe8
Jun 2012
#291
Yes, nearly two years after the fact, and unfortunately for the lawyer, the evidence in their
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#294
None of us should be arrogant enough to argue the faults of a sexual encounter.
randome
Jun 2012
#297
There are no legal charges by authorities, but charges have been made by people...
Honeycombe8
Jun 2012
#229
No allegations of rape have ever been made by the women in this case. In fact
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#233
Assange stayed in Sweden for a month, iirc, after this flap arose to handle it.
EFerrari
Jun 2012
#235
Yeah. It's too bad we don't have those fancy things like they had on Star Trek called
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#238