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RainDog

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15. here's the irony

Reply to DirkGently (Reply #14)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 07:38 PM

Jun 2012

nations with the least restrictive hard core porn laws are the nations with the greatest gender equality. - and Sweden, for instance, was also the first nation to extend rights to homosexuals.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=829806

the one factor that combines with gender inequality across the world is conservative religious belief. Free speech advocates, even recognizing that this is the case, do not advocate censorship of conservative religious belief, either, even tho it is gross and demeaning regarding women.

they do advocate education that includes discussion of the harm that religion causes to women - because this harm is quantifiable. the harm from porn, on the other hand, doesn't translate in societies when you compare those nations with gender equality, porn and religion.

Religion is the common oppressor.

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As a gay man, I certainly don't feel the least bit dehumanized by gay porn. [View all] Kurska Jun 2012 OP

It's all good until the whips, chains and apples are brought out snooper2 Jun 2012 #1

and then it`s even better! opiate69 Jun 2012 #7

Way to beat me to it. Puregonzo1188 Jun 2012 #21

I actually like gay porn a lot more than straight porn. LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #2

Oh, there is plenty of choking, slapping and hitting... zappaman Jun 2012 #3

All that needs to be said. Kurska Jun 2012 #5

I've only ever seen one gay porno. Ian David Jun 2012 #6

Well you are watching the wrong kind then.... Puregonzo1188 Jun 2012 #22

I have never seen this porn where people get hit and choked obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #23

It's not dehumanizing until you put on the panda suit. n/t Ian David Jun 2012 #4

Touche, sir n/t Kurska Jun 2012 #8

I think the argument is about how the industry treats the actors, not the viewers. Child porn, ... GodlessBiker Jun 2012 #9

But how do you regulate that? Kurska Jun 2012 #10

Straight woman here WilmywoodNCparalegal Jun 2012 #11

Straight woman here, too. Staph Jun 2012 #13

But *I* don't CONSENT to the objectification some men Fawke Em Jun 2012 #29

Thank you for posting this....I've been mulling over how to phrase this question for months.... Rowdyboy Jun 2012 #12

I don't think the dehumanization argument is that mysterious. DirkGently Jun 2012 #14

here's the irony RainDog Jun 2012 #15

A separate, unrelated point. DirkGently Jun 2012 #17

but there is a correlation b/t religious conservatism and sex crimes RainDog Jun 2012 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author DirkGently Jun 2012 #19

I don't think anyone "focuses" on porn to the exclusion of everything else. DirkGently Jun 2012 #20

Sanity, thank you! Taverner Jun 2012 #16

Porn is just a symptom of the problem Shankapotomus Jun 2012 #24

I'd add something to the conversation Aerows Jun 2012 #25

The vast majority of porn rrneck Jun 2012 #26

Bumping for more discussion. DURHAM D Jun 2012 #27

until it comes to gay rights issues and how you are portrayed/perceived? ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #28