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heaven05

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85. you have no real threat

Sun Sep 25, 2016, 12:11 PM

Sep 2016

BECAUSE you are in a catagory where you are relatively safe. You're just arguing for arguments sake and that's that. Not worth anymore of my time.

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All of the videos and photos put together make it clear the cops are telling the truth about the gun [View all] Egnever Sep 2016 OP

It seems that the Cops are allowed to stress test anybody they want Dem2 Sep 2016 #1

I agree with that wholeheartedly. Egnever Sep 2016 #2

cops don't care gopiscrap Sep 2016 #82

I really think you're over complicating things.... jack_krass Sep 2016 #104

Hmmm Dem2 Sep 2016 #169

My interpretation of this is that Open Carry is nothing but a death sentence if you're black. LonePirate Sep 2016 #3

I would not argue with that for a second. Egnever Sep 2016 #4

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2016 #5

Thank you for putting this together exboyfil Sep 2016 #6

The gun is a Mustang .380...single action, which just happens to be cocked jmg257 Sep 2016 #7

It appears to me that there isn't a magazine in it. Jim Beard Sep 2016 #61

Quite sad to get killed - especially over a pistol with one round in it. :( jmg257 Sep 2016 #71

There's a mag in it Heeeeers Johnny Sep 2016 #74

Thanks for the close up - now more then ever I think its empty...i.e. I do not see a tab jmg257 Sep 2016 #75

Looking at it again, I think you're right Heeeeers Johnny Sep 2016 #79

Ah I see what you were thinking. Your upper arrow is pointing exactly to where the tab should be. jmg257 Sep 2016 #80

The police murdered this man, for no other reason than being black and out in public nt MrScorpio Sep 2016 #8

Sure, the police routinely murder people just because they like it Albertoo Sep 2016 #9

Yes, I do. MrScorpio Sep 2016 #12

If you REALLY believe that, you should flee and ask for political asylum (I would) Albertoo Sep 2016 #14

Well, of course most white people in this country have a more favorable opinion of the police. MrScorpio Sep 2016 #16

My answer was made regardless of skin color Albertoo Sep 2016 #17

Considering the impracticality of that logic, I'll give it the regard that it's actually do. MrScorpio Sep 2016 #18

Then, you're not being serious Albertoo Sep 2016 #24

The threat from terrorism is relatively low in this country... MrScorpio Sep 2016 #29

How many innocent people have terrorists killed in the US in 2016? Orrex Sep 2016 #38

San Bernardino, Orlando, New Jersey: nearly 100? Albertoo Sep 2016 #41

And? Orrex Sep 2016 #42

I was just answering your question Albertoo Sep 2016 #43

You answered half of the question. Orrex Sep 2016 #63

Probably far less than terrorists Albertoo Sep 2016 #65

Probably? Orrex Sep 2016 #69

The terms of the question should be proof to you you're on the wrong track Albertoo Sep 2016 #70

That's 100% garbage. Orrex Sep 2016 #73

You appear to have difficulties with ratios Albertoo Sep 2016 #77

That's 100% garbage Orrex Sep 2016 #81

Yes, families of dead people grieve them, no matter what Albertoo Sep 2016 #83

You spend a lot of time telling people what they think. Orrex Sep 2016 #84

My family is not white, so your white angle falls flat Albertoo Sep 2016 #113

I apologize for my hasty conclusion. Orrex Sep 2016 #121

I understand grievances even if their expression can be overemphasized Albertoo Sep 2016 #129

That's perfect--that's exactly what you should tell them. Orrex Sep 2016 #134

You visibly do not understand why Trump is way higher than he should be Albertoo Sep 2016 #147

Your dismissal of this topic is disgusting in the extreme Orrex Sep 2016 #148

Your family is not white awoke_in_2003 Sep 2016 #151

you are productive? heaven05 Sep 2016 #89

Certainly more than people here who conjure up bogeymen Albertoo Sep 2016 #120

distraction diversion coupled heaven05 Sep 2016 #88

And that, gentle readers, is the essence of the subthread. Orrex Sep 2016 #136

Sanctimonious word soup Albertoo Sep 2016 #182

I wish this was true. drray23 Sep 2016 #180

How do you determine who is innocent? pintobean Sep 2016 #66

Everyone is innocent until proven guilty, no? Orrex Sep 2016 #72

I guess the threat is to be determined by investigation pintobean Sep 2016 #90

Gotcha. Shoot first and investigate later. Orrex Sep 2016 #144

in america now heaven05 Sep 2016 #91

You cite three incidents True Dough Sep 2016 #159

That's easy to do if you have the resources to do that. Easy to brag about it too. brush Sep 2016 #53

Untrue. See the European migrants who fled to the US Albertoo Sep 2016 #55

Are you serious with that? Hah! brush Sep 2016 #59

You are evading the initial premise Albertoo Sep 2016 #67

What idiotic bullshit. We aren't going anywhere. You may believe in cutting and running. We don't. brush Sep 2016 #179

Self preservation is not cutting and running. Albertoo Sep 2016 #184

Are you suggesting that MrScorpio should be a coward and leave the nation of his birth? TexasProgresive Sep 2016 #19

Safeguarding one's own life is not being a coward Albertoo Sep 2016 #25

I agree, but its better to fight for proper legislation here than run somewhere else... uponit7771 Sep 2016 #33

That would be fighting a losing battle Albertoo Sep 2016 #45

The impunity UNPROFESSIONAL cops get is more dangerous than terrorism and has more direct effect on uponit7771 Sep 2016 #46

I fear we're not going to agree on much. eom. Albertoo Sep 2016 #48

Facts matter, I pray we agree on that uponit7771 Sep 2016 #51

Yes, assuming facts are assessed in perspective Albertoo Sep 2016 #54

in a neutral perspective of course, it a mostly white one no... not at all uponit7771 Sep 2016 #60

What seems clear to me Cal Carpenter Sep 2016 #87

Seriously? - you gave him the love it or leave it speech? lame54 Sep 2016 #22

No. I gave him a "live the consequences of your beliefs" speech Albertoo Sep 2016 #26

I know what I read... lame54 Sep 2016 #76

Statistically, he's obviously wrong Albertoo Sep 2016 #78

Statistically 793 people have been killed by police ... GeorgeGist Sep 2016 #126

That's too much, but far less than home accidents Albertoo Sep 2016 #130

What the hell awoke_in_2003 Sep 2016 #154

That is a seriously stupid post. It assumes money, job, and destination for starters. Festivito Sep 2016 #23

I love the level of tolerance you display Albertoo Sep 2016 #27

No tolerance for the stupid post I called a stupid post. Festivito Sep 2016 #166

Mirror, mirror on the wall: what you disagree with, you call stupid Albertoo Sep 2016 #183

Posts come with reasons for disagreement, with reasons for it being stupid. Festivito Sep 2016 #185

Let me know when you'll start giving reasoned responses. Albertoo Sep 2016 #186

You're under the impression that Syrian refugees are upper middle class yuppies, huh? Marr Sep 2016 #68

I can technically do such as an AA in America because of the police, I can go to Germany uponit7771 Sep 2016 #32

you have no real threat heaven05 Sep 2016 #85

Spot on, MrScorpio. nt DLevine Sep 2016 #15

true heaven05 Sep 2016 #86

No, but people of color are given less time to respond & the orders are more rapid fire & demanding. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2016 #20

If we're back to discussing probabilities, I'm on board Albertoo Sep 2016 #28

Facts aren't offensive to people seeking truth, the poster didn't have to be nats ass precise uponit7771 Sep 2016 #34

The statement that the police is more dangerous than terrorists is NOT seeking truth Albertoo Sep 2016 #110

what about the post heaven05 Sep 2016 #92

Two wrongs make a right? Albertoo Sep 2016 #111

the last refuge heaven05 Sep 2016 #135

No, because they can get away with it when they have built in impunity uponit7771 Sep 2016 #31

What impunity? With a court case for each incident? Albertoo Sep 2016 #49

This is false on its face, there's no court case with each incident... where are you getting your uponit7771 Sep 2016 #50

I do as well philosslayer Sep 2016 #122

You thought Korryn Gaines was a 'murdered' innocent, too, so... Marr Sep 2016 #64

No, they shot this man because he was holding a gun and refused to drop it. Not only did he not Waldorf Sep 2016 #137

Agree he had a gun and the Police did not plant one. AND!! The Police were too quick to shoot him. Lil Missy Sep 2016 #10

They are not trained to. Nt jmg257 Sep 2016 #11

Thank you for all this work. I can only hope that the "media" has done this but doubt it. KewlKat Sep 2016 #13

I sent it to several media contacts Egnever Sep 2016 #189

It would seem he had the gun in his right hand, quickly moved about ten feet, and fell with gun. Festivito Sep 2016 #21

My theory citood Sep 2016 #30

Plausible. eom Festivito Sep 2016 #158

The police were there to serve a warrant to another person. wildeyed Sep 2016 #35

+1, their reasoning for engaging Scott in the first place is criminal enough... the gun is a red uponit7771 Sep 2016 #37

Exactly Uponthegears Sep 2016 #40

Did he even know they were police as they approached? eom Festivito Sep 2016 #157

he has tbi and was confused. drray23 Sep 2016 #57

He was also a felon illegally carrying a gun Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #62

here we go heaven05 Sep 2016 #95

That is the LEO mentality that is the main problem. Rex Sep 2016 #98

all the time heaven05 Sep 2016 #114

It is pretty disturbing to watch then validate murder. Rex Sep 2016 #118

It's the job of the police to keep society safe from criminals XemaSab Sep 2016 #102

He was sitting in his car waiting for his kid to get out of school...the cops were there to serve Rex Sep 2016 #106

He was sitting in his car with a gun waiting for his kid to get out of school XemaSab Sep 2016 #112

At what point in this encounter was he violent? Rex Sep 2016 #115

You ever have someone walk up to you holding a gun? XemaSab Sep 2016 #116

Yes I have, now what does that have to do with the dead guy that was not holding a gun? Rex Sep 2016 #124

oh please heaven05 Sep 2016 #125

The magic gun, they all are desperate for it to be his. Rex Sep 2016 #131

Actually it is in the pic - right near the guy in red's left foot. jmg257 Sep 2016 #140

So it moves by itself? Rex Sep 2016 #141

No they moved the body Egnever Sep 2016 #152

No the cop 1st footed it back when cuffing scott. This is later, seems Scott has been moved. jmg257 Sep 2016 #153

Feet move when a people move their feet. Festivito Sep 2016 #156

What was he in prison for? XemaSab Sep 2016 #138

What was he sitting in his car for? Rex Sep 2016 #139

Did the cops know who he was at the time they ordered him out of the car? Beaverhausen Sep 2016 #142

First he was reading the Koran XemaSab Sep 2016 #143

I don't see how any of what you said answers the question Beaverhausen Sep 2016 #145

DU cracks me up XemaSab Sep 2016 #146

White folks do it all the time. GeorgeGist Sep 2016 #170

I don't know heaven05 Sep 2016 #172

Do you support felons illegally carrying guns? Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #173

america has two levels of law heaven05 Sep 2016 #175

Of course you won't respond because you can't deal with the facts Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #177

This is not a valid discussion point because the police didn't know who he was. kwassa Sep 2016 #181

If he had TBI awoke_in_2003 Sep 2016 #155

He wasn't there to start a fight. Confused, scared, and possibly unclear thinking. Sad. Festivito Sep 2016 #162

It is specious to intimate that AT NO POINT could the CPD not plant a weapon seeing there's no proof uponit7771 Sep 2016 #36

Certainly an interesting and compelling presentation Uponthegears Sep 2016 #39

I appreciate the time you put into this post. I think it is very well done. underpants Sep 2016 #128

A well thought out statement that covers the various scenarios well. tonyt53 Sep 2016 #165

Let's Say This Is All True... usedtobedemgurl Sep 2016 #44

His wife also yelled he didn't have a gun and told all of us that later Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #47

All of that goes out the window when the gun is seen and he's visibly hostile <- not complying CRF450 Sep 2016 #56

At this point it's clear the family has zero credibility Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #52

I'm not arguing with you BUT the cops didn't hear what she was saying underpants Sep 2016 #123

What is under the cops left foot in the firsy photo when the cop is stratteling him? Jim Beard Sep 2016 #58

That is the gun the cops planted to get away with murder. Rex Sep 2016 #94

What is clear is the cops planted a gun on him after murdering him in cold blood. Rex Sep 2016 #93

Did they put the ankle holster on him too? jmg257 Sep 2016 #96

Where is the ankle holster, I know you want to see one but it ain't there. Rex Sep 2016 #97

It in every picture of his right ankle. jmg257 Sep 2016 #99

You mean his sock? Nice try. Rex Sep 2016 #100

Ha ha - yeah his bulgy black sock...too funny. jmg257 Sep 2016 #101

Wow so you see things that are not there. Rex Sep 2016 #103

Yep..Easy to see...all you need to do is look. One sock that extends down below the sneaker is new jmg257 Sep 2016 #105

No not really, but you go on and pretend it is there. Rex Sep 2016 #107

Or that his sock extends down over his sneaker...on one side....riiiight. jmg257 Sep 2016 #108

I understand this pic has to be what you need it to be to sleep better at night. Rex Sep 2016 #109

Oh I sleep fine. The other shots of it can also be ignored. jmg257 Sep 2016 #117

Glad you admit to a gun being planted. Rex Sep 2016 #119

Oh yes...I think the moon landings were fake too. jmg257 Sep 2016 #127

I bet heaven05 Sep 2016 #132

Some of em may be that dispicable. Murdering innocent people is a terrible thing to contemplate. jmg257 Sep 2016 #133

Redundant post that fails to answer even one of a dozen reasons given. FAIL! eom Festivito Sep 2016 #160

Very detailed sarisataka Sep 2016 #149

I assume you mean this one Egnever Sep 2016 #161

Thank you sarisataka Sep 2016 #164

Heres the original...its later, red guy is in the pic now, gun seems to be where he was standing jmg257 Sep 2016 #163

Ah, I see my mistake sarisataka Sep 2016 #167

No worries - here's a post I just made in another thread - good comparison shot. jmg257 Sep 2016 #168

Good comparison Egnever Sep 2016 #171

I still opt heaven05 Sep 2016 #174

How did they "throwdown" a matching holster on his leg before he was even shot? Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #176

Not sure about a throw-down. I did not see Scott with a gun, jmg257 Sep 2016 #178

Thanks for the stills LeftInTX Sep 2016 #150

Recovered gun + matching ankle holster + fingerprints/DNA on weapon GOLGO 13 Sep 2016 #187

There's no photo evidence of a gun IN SCOTTS HAND that has been shown so far uponit7771 Sep 2016 #188