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justiceischeap

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8. To your point

Reply to Ilsa (Reply #5)

Sat Jun 16, 2012, 07:56 AM

Jun 2012

what they don't seem to realize when it comes to the Pilgrims is that they fled here to gain religious freedom... i.e., they didn't want the royalty of England to tell them what God they could worship or how. How that then became that we were founded as a Christian nation (as you said, the Pilgrims didn't "found" this nation) is beyond me. Also as you pointed out, I think if we lived according the Pilgrim's religious practices today, if that were reintroduced into society, today's so-called Christians wouldn't make it. They were some harsh task masters, just ask the innocent folks in Salem.

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The Truth About Religion in America: The Founders Loathed Superstition and We Were Never a Christian [View all] xchrom Jun 2012 OP

My LTTE in response to an "America is a Christian nation" nut... rfranklin Jun 2012 #1

Excellent LTTE Martin Eden Jun 2012 #12

Yes it was published... rfranklin Jun 2012 #16

Neat! Was this recently? SaB2012 Jun 2012 #28

Yes, it was a few weeks ago...in response to a LTTE citing Wall Builders... rfranklin Jun 2012 #31

I don't see how God Shankapotomus Jun 2012 #2

The article suggests in the following pages that some of the founders were deists ... spin Jun 2012 #3

Yes, some were and others were Christian, and some were Jewish. hobbit709 Jun 2012 #4

please kindly list some Jewish founding fathers - much appreciated, in advance inna Jun 2012 #10

None of the major players but some were involved hobbit709 Jun 2012 #11

It's probable that Muslims built the foundations of most major US cities of the period, too Scootaloo Jun 2012 #23

The Only nation with which the gods have had nothing to do Brainstormy Jun 2012 #7

Aside from the brainwashing and lies, Ilsa Jun 2012 #5

To your point justiceischeap Jun 2012 #8

Well, the Pilgrims also hijacked their ship and nearly had a civil war on hteir hands... Scootaloo Jun 2012 #24

"not some rocky asshole wilderness to be governed by men with belt buckles on their heads..." dionysus Jun 2012 #30

Yet some of our own insist the problem is JNelson6563 Jun 2012 #6

A Few Founding Fathers' Quotes on Religion/Christianity 66 dmhlt Jun 2012 #9

So much amuse bouche Jun 2012 #22

A devastatingly good article. mmonk Jun 2012 #13

Read Catherine Crier's book "Contempt: How the Right Is Wronging American Justice" obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #14

Excellent book. I have it and recommend it to everyone. mmonk Jun 2012 #17

I was disappointed when they turned CourtTV into TruTV obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #18

Me too. mmonk Jun 2012 #19

She pops up sometimes on Dr. Drew's HLN show obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #21

Free Masons NeverEnuff Jun 2012 #15

K&R ck4829 Jun 2012 #20

These people make up whatever they think will stick and lie like hell. Most of RKP5637 Jun 2012 #25

Don't forget the No religious test for office clause in the Constitution. Manifestor_of_Light Jun 2012 #26

If I had a dime for every guess on founders thoughts on religion - Zax2me Jun 2012 #27

One of my favorite episodes from the Constitutional Convention bhikkhu Jun 2012 #29