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In the discussion thread: The Republican Party is the White Party [View all]

Fri Jun 15, 2012, 05:08 PM

cthulu2016 (7,946 posts)

9. You can think that but it isn't true

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The differences SHOULD be class-based, of course, but is there a Democratic advantage among working class white people?

West Virginia is a definitive white working class (and poverty) state, yet hates Obama more than anywhere.

The racial divisions in American history account for much of the reason Europe has more socialist traditions. Sad truth is that sharing appears to be easier in racially homogeneous populations.

When push comes to shove, race tends to trump class and nationalism trumps everything.

Dems do somewhat better among lower income people but, for instance, Dems are at rough parity or a slight disadvantage among lower-income non-college whites -- precisely the white cohort that Dems *should* totally dominate.

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37 replies	Author	Time	Post
The Republican Party is the White Party [View all]	cthulu2016	Jun 2012	OP
That's exactly the point.	swayne	Jun 2012	#1
The white MALE party.	polichick	Jun 2012	#2
Well, now, I think we can expand it...	Scootaloo	Jun 2012	#4
Add the word Xenophobe.	JoePhilly	Jun 2012	#8
Yes and no	cthulu2016	Jun 2012	#6
yes exactly--that's also why they pretend that Dems are "girls"	librechik	Jun 2012	#7
I, and some others, think the party differences are CLASS, not race. There are plenty of "Whites"	patrice	Jun 2012	#3
I used to think the same, and there's some truth to the matter	Scootaloo	Jun 2012	#5
You can think that but it isn't true	cthulu2016	Jun 2012	#9
So you are in favor of dividing the parties by race?	patrice	Jun 2012	#11
.	cthulu2016	Jun 2012	#15
What is the logic of "The Republican Party is the White Party"? Not "a", "the White Party" i.e. . .	patrice	Jun 2012	#20
Using language the way people use language is communicative	cthulu2016	Jun 2012	#25
k. "the" is still the definite article, limiting to ONE specific person/place/thing - and - "a"	patrice	Jun 2012	#33
Ayup, okay, so what happens if you take the white male vote out of the picture?	Zalatix	Jun 2012	#17
Sorry, I don't understand. White males don't suffer from economic injustice? If I care about	patrice	Jun 2012	#19
And the Democratic Party isn't? What about poor Whites? Are they better off as Republicans? nt	patrice	Jun 2012	#10
The Democratic party should become the elderly party as well	aint_no_life_nowhere	Jun 2012	#12
No, it's the party of hate and fear.	ananda	Jun 2012	#13
Some whites.	Zalatix	Jun 2012	#18
Which is my point. OP subject is a BROAD brush; what about poor Whites?	patrice	Jun 2012	#21
It is not broad brush	cthulu2016	Jun 2012	#26
So don't play THEIR game. nt	patrice	Jun 2012	#34
Another DUer pointed out something I found very illuminating:	malthaussen	Jun 2012	#27
I understand, except that I think we're talking about pie here, not misery. That's the vision thing,	patrice	Jun 2012	#36
Ummmm	Zalatix	Jun 2012	#31
We don't need the majority of the White vote, but that doesn't mean that we don't need a significant	patrice	Jun 2012	#35
Actually, they are a "big-tent" party these days	SoCalDem	Jun 2012	#14
The white 1%ers and the willfully ignorant.	lpbk2713	Jun 2012	#16
And race is a handy way to do that, especially with anyone who is already pissed off about economic	patrice	Jun 2012	#22
So very true.	lpbk2713	Jun 2012	#23
And, in my real life experience, poor white males are more often paranoid rather than not. nt	patrice	Jun 2012	#24
This PWM sure is	malthaussen	Jun 2012	#28
Talking about family here, but lol anyway . . .	patrice	Jun 2012	#29
The Plutocracy is NOT ignorant - they create this divide by design.	Zalatix	Jun 2012	#32
It is also the KOOK party.	michaelcobb	Jun 2012	#30
White's Only Party is a better fit	Son of Gob	Jun 2012	#37

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