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Congratulations, you found the loophole. tridim Jun 2012 #1
Poverty, homelessness and hunger are growing daily MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #2
Ever heard of Congress?? FarLeftFist Jun 2012 #6
The Congress that rejected the three Bush "free" trade agreements MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #8
Maybe ProSense Jun 2012 #10
I totally MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #13
Suggestion: ProSense Jun 2012 #18
Now THAT was funny! MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #19
He found plenty of them when he introduced his bill to defend ACORN sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #346
It's: "I accept the 20 lashes because it is sooo much better than 40. Thank you master." nm rhett o rick Jun 2012 #42
No, it's: I'm not gullible to RW bullshit tactics. n/t ProSense Jun 2012 #102
When I say I dont like our government's free-trade agreements, rhett o rick Jun 2012 #188
Now rick. Jakes Progress Jun 2012 #327
Then there are a couple of DUers who appear to be Obama-shills. JDPriestly Jun 2012 #222
And what about dipshits who will fall over themselves to launch hate at Obama? Scootaloo Jun 2012 #230
Your post is way off and They_Live Jun 2012 #234
Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #236
Sid you shill... dionysus Jun 2012 #261
bout the same They_Live Jun 2012 #263
I'm happy for you Scootaloo Jun 2012 #245
Absolutley GODDAMN DIPSHIT They_Live Jun 2012 #262
And here comes the hyperbolic pants-wetting Scootaloo Jun 2012 #266
I really have no idea what you're trying to accomplish here. They_Live Jun 2012 #281
Excellent! kurtzapril4 Jun 2012 #285
I'm sure we have little in common Scootaloo Jun 2012 #294
I'm not sure I understand where you draw the line They_Live Jun 2012 #300
Huffpo is kind of the online lefty version of the National Enquirer Scootaloo Jun 2012 #321
...and another thing They_Live Jun 2012 #302
oK.... as far as those points you made, They_Live Jun 2012 #291
Now we can attempt a conversation Scootaloo Jun 2012 #305
Oh.. They_Live Jun 2012 #322
Or you'll what? Scootaloo Jun 2012 #330
So the president has no power is what you're saying? sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #320
You can see what I'm saying, in my post Scootaloo Jun 2012 #325
Thank you, I've never seen an uglier post. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #375
Somewhat proving JD's point, I would say. n/t Blue_In_AK Jun 2012 #274
And who does the USTR report to? MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #297
+1000 Bobbie Jo Jun 2012 #368
Thank You. They_Live Jun 2012 #233
...typed a Smoove Johnny-shill, with a straight face... dionysus Jun 2012 #260
JDP, I truly wish I could recommend this reply tpsbmam Jun 2012 #264
+1000! SammyWinstonJack Jun 2012 #267
Yep. Yet we're not supposed to mention the obvious... woo me with science Jun 2012 #307
yep, bullseye. What I do is usually ignore them quinnox Jun 2012 #318
It isn't so much that I disagree with them but that, as you explain, their posts JDPriestly Jun 2012 #435
+1 proud2BlibKansan Jun 2012 #329
Looks like you incurred the longest swarm yet. But tread lightly. The Neighborhood Watch rhett o rick Jun 2012 #360
+1 Poll_Blind Jun 2012 #412
OH COME ON, MANNY!!! Skittles Jun 2012 #80
Not entirely true. MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #93
You're just mad cause you didn't get your pony. progressoid Jun 2012 #104
LOL MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #110
HEHE Skittles Jun 2012 #450
Actually ProSense Jun 2012 #100
Really? All sense of honest discussion out the window Jakes Progress Jun 2012 #356
False choice kenfrequed Jun 2012 #254
No not that one, the Tea Party one that is obstructing everything and took America hostage. FarLeftFist Jun 2012 #12
So you don't want to talk about the one MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #15
Why, it only advances RW causes and fuels the fire for discouraging voter turnout for Obama. FarLeftFist Jun 2012 #23
What if... Obama just stopped doing this awful shit MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #24
I'm not the one in fear, I'm the one voting for him. FarLeftFist Jun 2012 #25
Seems like I misread your post then. MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #26
Now... MrMickeysMom Jun 2012 #28
Absolutely nailed it, Manny! bvar22 Jun 2012 #304
"WHAT IF...OBAMA JUST STOPPED DOING THIS AWFUL SHIT woo me with science Jun 2012 #416
I, for one, would be quite happy to be all "forward" truedelphi Jun 2012 #441
The RW causes being advanced were/are the Free Trade Agreements. NCTraveler Jun 2012 #200
Isn't it Hillary's State Department that does the nitty-gritty negotiations JDPriestly Jun 2012 #228
I don't think Obama is left of the Clinton's. I also don't view the Clinton's themselves as being left NCTraveler Jun 2012 #243
why trouble your beautiful mind? frylock Jun 2012 #204
As soon as I see Democrats actually fighting .. sendero Jun 2012 #140
Thank you. I agree with your logical statements. n/t truedelphi Jun 2012 #442
Again, if Congress is the problem, JDPriestly Jun 2012 #227
*crickets* woo me with science Jun 2012 #244
I remember the Truman and Johnson administrations. JDPriestly Jun 2012 #277
Well...to be charitable...Obama had just never seen things the way many of us see them...... KoKo Jun 2012 #292
Those numbers speak volumes, JD MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #295
What a great post. woo me with science Jun 2012 #314
Wow, those are some sobering numbers. WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2012 #323
Seeds of its own destruction.. Why Syzygy Jun 2012 #60
heh. SammyWinstonJack Jun 2012 #269
I don't wonder anymore. bvar22 Jun 2012 #312
The only time the whitehouse changes hands nineteen50 Jun 2012 #239
Tough to hide behind the Congress skirt when they are cut out of the loop TheKentuckian Jun 2012 #103
Obama has only used his veto twice. JDPriestly Jun 2012 #219
The Congress that keeps Obama from going to Wisconsin? Creideiki Jun 2012 #268
No no no no no! kurtzapril4 Jun 2012 #289
Also, 2 possible Supreme Court nominees. FarLeftFist Jun 2012 #14
Actually, that's about all I have left to be hopeful about nt MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #17
Even THAT Silver Cloud comes with a dark lining. bvar22 Jun 2012 #272
Yep, and considering his administration woo me with science Jun 2012 #340
More hostages. hay rick Jun 2012 #31
yes, very cheneyesque frylock Jun 2012 #207
Supreme court and abortion. That's all we've got left from "The Great Society". Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #39
Since Obama deadenders here claim he has no power UnrepentantLiberal Jun 2012 #152
And a damn good reason as any. FarLeftFist Jun 2012 #202
I agree. UnrepentantLiberal Jun 2012 #215
"Obama deadenders"?... SidDithers Jun 2012 #213
Exactly.nt Bobbie Jo Jun 2012 #369
What do you mean "also?" That's more than enough reason in and of itself. TrollBuster9090 Jun 2012 #348
Yeah, yeah, we know. Every criticism is perceived as an attack on Obama, woo me with science Jun 2012 #16
Thanks for the sanity, woo. russspeakeasy Jun 2012 #30
This is run away from like Godzilla, Woo. TheKentuckian Jun 2012 #38
Don't bother playing the cult of personality card on me. tridim Jun 2012 #50
I do not monitor the thoughts of individual voters at the polls and hadn't seen you post so I wasn't TheKentuckian Jun 2012 #225
It's idiotic to assume that adult Democrats vote on personality alone. tridim Jun 2012 #271
My claim is that the dialog is fixed on personality. Internal thought may vary, observable reaction TheKentuckian Jun 2012 #449
You are spot on. There is *always* a diversion from the policy. woo me with science Jun 2012 #174
+1! rudycantfail Jun 2012 #270
There are no more pawns left on our side, they were taken out of the game early. bahrbearian Jun 2012 #216
The silence is deafening. raouldukelives Jun 2012 #43
No more true words have ever been spoken, woo. Thanks. nt riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #49
great post. You nailed it. bbgrunt Jun 2012 #54
Can't let this post go laundry_queen Jun 2012 #55
+ a million Quantess Jun 2012 #58
This is nothing new. Anyone who thought Obama would be immune from it is kidding themselves. joshcryer Jun 2012 #62
You are right. We should just accept it. Because voting is the only viable Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #74
Nah, just lower your expectations. Then you get surprised once in awhile. joshcryer Jun 2012 #76
Ever heard of 'aim for the sky and you might hit a tree'? sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #113
Hit me up when we have politicians who are worthy of high expectations. joshcryer Jun 2012 #115
We will get closer to what we want when we aim for what we want. Low expectation voters sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #128
I know of no single politician who is worthy of my expectations. joshcryer Jun 2012 #130
Yes, let's just wait for them... woo me with science Jun 2012 #175
"just lower your expectations" bvar22 Jun 2012 #328
Does it help chervilant Jun 2012 #75
Not makig fun. I come here for political discussion. joshcryer Jun 2012 #79
hmm... chervilant Jun 2012 #432
No, the outrage is not "amusing." woo me with science Jun 2012 #85
It's inconsequential. joshcryer Jun 2012 #88
You need to study history. nt woo me with science Jun 2012 #90
So today, criticism of Obama does not mean risking a Romney presidency. Marr Jun 2012 #95
No, forum posts have little effect on certain policies. joshcryer Jun 2012 #109
... woo me with science Jun 2012 #176
So you've changed your mind then? sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #315
Nope. joshcryer Jun 2012 #317
Obama said he WASN'T going to do it brentspeak Jun 2012 #365
Most likely not. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #414
Oh so he said he ain't going to do it. truedelphi Jun 2012 #467
Because there isn't enough outrage, yet. But it's building. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #410
+1000 nt Mojorabbit Jun 2012 #71
Corporation's Phlem Jun 2012 #89
Thank you for this post. And it is happening because, up to now, we too have gone along with the sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #99
+ a gazillion. chervilant Jun 2012 #106
Those are just talking points, intended to distract. You notice those who disseminate sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #131
You only get either no response or emails with no follow-up? How do the fund raisers overlook you? AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #169
Lol, no, we are not overlooked by the fundraisers! sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #460
Amen. woo me with science Jun 2012 #177
it's the system, the game, theater. tomp Jun 2012 #142
Well said. morningfog Jun 2012 #161
precisely; there's really only One Way- the Money Way. nt StarryNight Jun 2012 #173
Thank you, woo. Very well said. eom truth2power Jun 2012 #183
its Facism liberalnationalist Jun 2012 #193
"This agreement would reinstate important reforms like expansion of the program to cover Dragonfli Jun 2012 #223
You are so right. Making every issue "about" Obama personally, Raksha Jun 2012 #251
Brilliant post, woo. Thanks! nt tpsbmam Jun 2012 #265
Yeah, chervilant Jun 2012 #70
do you want Raw Money in there liberalnationalist Jun 2012 #185
You voted for McCain in 2008? Because Obama wasn't ready? Autumn Jun 2012 #257
Lol! sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #308
A McCain voter coming to lecture us to vote for Liberals. Autumn Jun 2012 #337
I know, but at least s/he was open about it! sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #339
...and showing more honesty and willingness to Face the Truth... bvar22 Jun 2012 #458
Whatever he is, I have just five words: three more Supreme Court Justices. TrollBuster9090 Jun 2012 #342
'Loophole'? Take off the blinders. Huey P. Long Jun 2012 #431
Land mines, Manny, land mines. Cerridwen Jun 2012 #3
So who's in charge of that agency now? MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #11
Manny, the laws and resultant policies and directives Cerridwen Jun 2012 #20
Senators are yelling about this, and MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #21
"Less time than it takes to have dinner with bankers, I'd think." Cerridwen Jun 2012 #22
I've worked in the federal bureaucracy. We knew where the rules came from. freedom fighter jh Jun 2012 #147
Information memos, instructional bulletins, Solicitor's Opinions, Cerridwen Jun 2012 #170
Yes, you're right, I forgot about court orders. freedom fighter jh Jun 2012 #275
Sucks, yes it does. Autumn Jun 2012 #4
Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #35
The nerve to support a Democrat? Horrors. Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #40
The post you were responding to got hidden yesterday, yet the poster continued to post in this rhett o rick Jun 2012 #384
Whats up with THAT? bvar22 Jun 2012 #425
Not sure. I also noted in another OP that the OP author rec'd his own OP. rhett o rick Jun 2012 #430
Some "more equal" than others? bvar22 Jun 2012 #447
If you click on the hidden post it wasn't hidden until the day after it was posted. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #445
I was wrong. you are absolutely correct. rhett o rick Jun 2012 #455
oh shit. dionysus Jun 2012 #179
Help me dion. They're starting to become a blur. They've converted from "Third Way" to uber-libera Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #203
yes, watching stone DLCers "morph" into Kucinizens to cover for the poutrage is priceless... dionysus Jun 2012 #237
I think it's even worse than that. I think they're, somewhere, magically to the left of Chavez now. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #241
do note however... some people really are just Naderites. the only reason you dionysus Jun 2012 #242
It really is that simple, isn't it? Mutual hatred for Bush united us, which is another reason I'll Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #249
I have plenty of nerve. And a lot more than just nasty snark which is all you post. Autumn Jun 2012 #206
"I have plenty of nerve". I knew we could find a point of agreement. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #211
MPAA?! Wtf? abelenkpe Jun 2012 #5
Oh my! ProSense Jun 2012 #7
Seems apropos: MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #9
Well... The Wood Chipper WOULD Be Faster... WillyT Jun 2012 #27
Says the guy who supported Hillary, Queen of the DLC. Just too funny. Third Way? Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #29
$50 if you find evidence of that. MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #33
Not looking for it, but I have a long memory. How's that "cleansing" coming? Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #34
Long and really shitty. MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #36
You have an agenda Manny. Why don't you fess up, and let us all in on it. Frankly, I don't.... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #44
Find a post where I support Hillary for Prez, I'll confess all MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #47
Not looking in the archives, but if you say so. Then it's so. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #57
Well the works been done for you, down thread MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #61
Don't know what's going on "downthread", but I think my questions were pretty clear? Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #65
You can't even take the time to read the clear refutation of your awful charge. MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #78
New Rules for DU3: bvar22 Jun 2012 #335
Dear Lord that's awesome! MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #341
Day-Yum! TheKentuckian Jun 2012 #466
LMAO iamthebandfanman Jun 2012 #84
I may have been wrong about Manny's primary support, but you're still in fuckin' Kentucky! Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #87
"Massive ego" chervilant Jun 2012 #105
That type of posting behavior in NOT spawned by a massive ego. bvar22 Jun 2012 #428
and you were an avid bush supporter.. frylock Jun 2012 #209
Touche! Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #212
Wow... chervilant Jun 2012 #86
In case you didn't notice, we didn't have a primary. The incumbent is our candidate. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #96
OMG! chervilant Jun 2012 #98
A lot of things are a "pale semblance" of my youth. Rotary phones, B&W teevee, whooping cough.... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #114
Yeah, chervilant Jun 2012 #149
!!! Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #201
Not sure what Party you are in, the Democratic Party held primaries this year, I voted Obama. Bluenorthwest Jun 2012 #184
Brilliantly stated. n/t truedelphi Jun 2012 #443
Thank you. chervilant Jun 2012 #462
boom goes the dynamite... dionysus Jun 2012 #238
Do you think I'm a Republican shill? nt MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #299
Where the hell did you come up with THAT? Ken Burch Jun 2012 #45
Nope. Starry Messenger Jun 2012 #51
I am blown away that someone would actually check that out and come to my defense MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #59
Ahaha, I did some digging, too. It's all so clear. joshcryer Jun 2012 #64
No, that makes no sense. No more than the other false claim made. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #116
All in my experience. joshcryer Jun 2012 #120
Certainly not your experience on DU. I think DUers have been very clear about what exactly sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #124
You can't pretend to know my experience of DU. joshcryer Jun 2012 #125
You can think whatever you want, the only people with rose colored glasses on are still wearing them sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #248
Good Points Sabrina 1....... KoKo Jun 2012 #282
Those are all valid reasons people push back against Obama for keeping campaign promises. joshcryer Jun 2012 #316
You mean like Offshore Drilling? And Mandated Insurance? sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #334
I'm sorry you don't remember, but Obama was for offshore drilling. joshcryer Jun 2012 #345
"Obama Slammed Opponent McCain’s Offshore Drilling Plan as ‘Political Posturing'" sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #367
Obama flipped after he was nominated but before we voted for him. joshcryer Jun 2012 #370
He evolved about a lot of things once he got the nomination. So what is your point? sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #374
My point is that he's been consistent and done everything he said he do within his power. joshcryer Jun 2012 #377
"Any bill I sign must include... a public option..." MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #379
Krugman pointed out that naivety. joshcryer Jun 2012 #381
Can you provide a link? MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #382
Sure. joshcryer Jun 2012 #383
I get the mandate - but what does that have to do with a public option? MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #385
It was a political miscalculation. joshcryer Jun 2012 #387
So Scott Brown was elected before Obama deep-sized the public option MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #391
Yep, and they said "we'll try again next year." Of course, then we let the teabaggers win. joshcryer Jun 2012 #393
Scott Brown was elected many months AFTER Obama agreed to drop the public option MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #395
The Public Option was still alive Nov. 8th. 2009. Scott Brown got elected on Jan. 28, 2010. joshcryer Jun 2012 #396
NY Times MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #397
Ted Kennedy was on his death bed when that article was written. What are you saying? joshcryer Jun 2012 #400
So? In June of 2009, when Obama ceded a meaningful public option to Pharma and Hospitals in MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #406
He didn't do that. He merely opened up the door for the possiblity of wrangling. joshcryer Jun 2012 #408
So you're claiming that the NY Times is wrong? MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #434
Sen. Barack Obama ex­plains his op­po­si­tion to lift­ing the ban on off-shore drilling. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #392
I think you linked the wrong thing. joshcryer Jun 2012 #394
Go to the first video on the left under the one you posted. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #404
Yep, it is too bad, glad he did it before the elections. joshcryer Jun 2012 #405
All I want of Obama/Biden is the same level of government truedelphi Jun 2012 #446
agreed..its because he had such an opportunity to be a hero when we needed one..and he chose xiamiam Jun 2012 #247
I remembered, but felt some links for back up would be effective. :) Starry Messenger Jun 2012 #68
We need to apologize for everything these days. MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #112
You're a liar. Manny NEVER supported Clinton in the primaries. nt Poll_Blind Jun 2012 #66
Not necessarily a liar, but it would've been easy to check before alleging it. joshcryer Jun 2012 #72
Don't you think that attempting character assassination without checking the facts is pretty awful? MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #77
Yes, it was horrible, no doubt. joshcryer Jun 2012 #83
And the lack of an apology? Marr Jun 2012 #101
Eh, most of that exchange happened before the post was made. joshcryer Jun 2012 #107
Most people wouldn't make such a misinformed statement about another DUer, would they? sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #118
I don't know, I've been called quite a few things by people I felt were misinformed. joshcryer Jun 2012 #121
No it's not a valid insult, it's just a plain old personal attack trying to distract from the real sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #126
It would be if it were true, you even admit that they were nasty. joshcryer Jun 2012 #127
The lie was not in the error re the candidate he supported. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #226
It is political. joshcryer Jun 2012 #309
No, never call people names, not even Bush, as I rely on facts more than stupid name-calling sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #336
Sure, here's one. joshcryer Jun 2012 #351
So no name-calling, thank you. What you call 'boxing people in' is generally called stating sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #355
I'm not convinced you've ever convinced me I've been wrong about anything ever. joshcryer Jun 2012 #357
Well, I don't really care whether you admitted to being wrong or not. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #361
Fair enough. joshcryer Jun 2012 #366
I disagree, people learn when those who bring non-facts to the table are corrected. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #373
Same here! joshcryer Jun 2012 #376
Hello??? Your link proves the exact opposite of what you claim. Kaleko Jun 2012 #474
More hateful insults. joshcryer Jun 2012 #476
Yes, more hateful insults to people's intelligence and reading comprehension coming from you. Kaleko Jun 2012 #480
I can't imagine anyone clicking that link and considering it "concealing one's true motives." joshcryer Jun 2012 #481
You've been trying to discredit Sabrina and others here Kaleko Jun 2012 #487
OK, whatever you say. Make it personal. joshcryer Jun 2012 #488
Perfect case in point: who are you accusing of making bigoted statements - Kaleko Jun 2012 #489
+100000 woo me with science Jun 2012 #187
The poster got a post hidden yesterday, so theoretically he cant post here. rhett o rick Jun 2012 #386
Yep, looks like they got booted from the thread. joshcryer Jun 2012 #388
Wrong placement. rhett o rick Jun 2012 #389
Oh gosh, and I must be his enabler. joshcryer Jun 2012 #399
Very sorry. I didnt intend that post for you. nm rhett o rick Jun 2012 #421
They get booted from the thread? joshcryer Jun 2012 #409
Hillary is Democrat. What is wrong with democrats supporting a democrat? sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #407
Given that the truth was given to the person iamthebandfanman Jun 2012 #82
Wait up, if that poster is on ignore, there's nothing to "look at." joshcryer Jun 2012 #108
My, my. Just look at the contortions you're going through to cover for them, though. nt Poll_Blind Jun 2012 #117
Oh gosh, I am just putting a sense of perspective. joshcryer Jun 2012 #119
He kinda looks like Caretha Jun 2012 #160
when first said it was a mistake SwampG8r Jun 2012 #143
As of this post the posts still have their times shown on the right there. joshcryer Jun 2012 #144
Your lack of an apology here makes you seem unprincipled and unworthy of regard. Marr Jun 2012 #97
Ad hominem to avoid actual discussion. Weak sauce. morningfog Jun 2012 #162
I, too, long for the good old days. LiberalAndProud Jun 2012 #32
China and Germany practice protectionism now. Yet they're being hailed for their success. Zalatix Jun 2012 #37
Well of course they are. Both those governments have to care for their people as both are prone to Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #46
We have so few advocates for protectionism now. LiberalAndProud Jun 2012 #129
Fortunately the public is STRONGLY in favor of protectionism now. Zalatix Jun 2012 #132
Google the Trans Pacific Trade agreement, now in the works truedelphi Jun 2012 #444
I know, my friend. LiberalAndProud Jun 2012 #454
I completely understand and sympathize. It's the classic Hobson's choice. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #41
Our government is supposed to work with checks and balances. Except for Sen Wyden (D-Ore.), AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #48
The extreme right-wing looniness allows Obama to bbgrunt Jun 2012 #52
The debt ceiling debate, the health insurance negotiations.... woo me with science Jun 2012 #180
So am I and here is a perfect example of the dynamic at work. Bonobo Jun 2012 #53
It is truly the craziest thing I've ever seen MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #56
I vote for new OP, but I have an even worse ice cream headache for you, which is related: Poll_Blind Jun 2012 #69
That is indeed a puke-worthy thought. Bonobo Jun 2012 #122
Go for it. Don't expect a civics lesson. joshcryer Jun 2012 #73
Then, chervilant Jun 2012 #91
Huh? I can't express my bemusement from the thousandth thread on these subjects? joshcryer Jun 2012 #111
I haven't seen any comment from you on the actual issue. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #135
I must remember that entertainment and amusement is the primary issue for some. Bonobo Jun 2012 #137
I'm familiar. It applies to states like the US as well as totalitarian states. joshcryer Jun 2012 #145
I really don't know why you think the process of rightward drift is inevitable. Bonobo Jun 2012 #146
Until the democratic party is united, as opposed to effectively 3 parties in one... joshcryer Jun 2012 #148
I don't feel like we are talking to each other, but AROUND each other. Bonobo Jun 2012 #150
Fair enough, you inaccurately blame the middle grounders, I blame the demographics. joshcryer Jun 2012 #151
That is more clear. Bonobo Jun 2012 #153
I'm saying Obama's right in the middle, straddling both sides. joshcryer Jun 2012 #155
Americans Will Say They're Conservatives Untill You Ask Them About The Issues raindaddy Jun 2012 #189
I'm talking about issues here. joshcryer Jun 2012 #313
Instead of looking at what you like to "think", bvar22 Jun 2012 #437
We don't have to guess at where the American stand regarding issues. All polls taken without sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #290
Yeah, OK, marriage equality only just in 2011 made it past 50% support. joshcryer Jun 2012 #311
And why did marriage equality finally get support from the American people? sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #338
That's right. We fought in courts, we fought on the ground, because the President wasn't... joshcryer Jun 2012 #354
Well now you are finally making MY point. The people must lead the way. You've been arguing sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #358
Excellent debate rebuttal. nt ZombieHorde Jun 2012 #253
He didn't address your post. But I read it and couldn't agree more, you are absolutely correct sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #413
Great posts, as usual chervilant Jun 2012 #417
Like this post: MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #156
Let's hope they care. joshcryer Jun 2012 #138
Let's hope they care enough not to remain silent and to push their elected officials sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #258
I'm pretty sure people stayed home because they were disillusioned by people... joshcryer Jun 2012 #310
What issue? The only people that see it as an issue are those who can afford iPads. joshcryer Jun 2012 #420
Wyden certainly does sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #436
hmph... chervilant Jun 2012 #415
josh only cares about outrage if it's happening in the middle east frylock Jun 2012 #214
I'm a sucker for underdogs. joshcryer Jun 2012 #401
Which is what this OP is about, underdogs. Don't see much comment on sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #451
I LOVE it. bvar22 Jun 2012 #429
I wish I could believe the Democrats have been "deftly maneuvered... ljm2002 Jun 2012 #92
It's the same script over and over again... woo me with science Jun 2012 #246
This must be a strategy because Laurence O'Donnell did the exact same thing the other night sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #134
Is this intentional or just dumb? Caretha Jun 2012 #163
Manny, it's like this. jtuck004 Jun 2012 #63
I'm only posting flvegan Jun 2012 #67
Yup. Puglover Jun 2012 #166
The Third Way is the slightly slower lane to the same destination the Repbublicans are headed for. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2012 #81
Well, I say, chervilant Jun 2012 #94
Not exactly the same ... We have our differences. LiberalAndProud Jun 2012 #123
i know it ,that guy roman7 Jun 2012 #133
He doesn't need to send you a memo unless you are a member of Congress. He does need sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #136
Thanks for this post cbrer Jun 2012 #139
I know Manny and rrHeretic Jun 2012 #141
Actually, I recommend that you vote, and vote for Democrats MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #158
We have an obligation to chervilant Jun 2012 #418
evil in any form needs to be fought and resisted datasuspect Jun 2012 #172
Which reminds me... chervilant Jun 2012 #419
And another outrage widget hits the shop floor... SidDithers Jun 2012 #154
Another thoughtless dismissal of a serious issue. morningfog Jun 2012 #164
No thread on corrupted US policy/elections is complete till the Canadian clown car shows up. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2012 #194
... SidDithers Jun 2012 #195
hey Sid, need some extra clown white? you can write "Greewald/Manning 12" on your car windows dionysus Jun 2012 #240
He would probably want to spell it correctly. Spelling it "Greewald"would make him look idiotic. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2012 #256
Greewald.. Greenwald.. Douchewald.. doesn't matter much each way... dionysus Jun 2012 #259
It's just Dis Mithers being Dis Mithers...nt morningfog Jun 2012 #205
... SidDithers Jun 2012 #210
... sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #279
Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #298
Well...maybe I shouldn't have asked "Sid" on this post. I do hope he will get back to me... KoKo Jun 2012 #333
He's been locked out of this thread. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2012 #363
oopsie. I didn't know a poster could be locked out of thread they didn't start....oh well. KoKo Jun 2012 #364
Yep and his transparency page is now up. Puglover Jun 2012 #371
Wow! That's, um, very revealing. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2012 #372
Even Loco Bozo only got up to 54. n/t QC Jun 2012 #424
x2 AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #461
"Obama's been a tragic disappointment" trumad Jun 2012 #157
It's just Manny being Manny...nt SidDithers Jun 2012 #168
someone's gotta carry the torch... "...and he was a giant among men..." dionysus Jun 2012 #181
And you defending everything he does. No different! Logical Jun 2012 #217
Saving this subthread for later. Want to REALLY digest the richness of the dialogue. Romulox Jun 2012 #190
I owe you an apology! NYC_SKP Jun 2012 #196
The greatest orator of our time is handed a depression MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #303
I'd almost be happy to get third way now. JoeyT Jun 2012 #159
+ 100. HughBeaumont Jun 2012 #171
Very true, especially compared to Clinton. nt Poll_Blind Jun 2012 #199
Get used to it Freddie Stubbs Jun 2012 #165
I worry that people get used to it and feel helpless, woo me with science Jun 2012 #178
Yeah. I've noticed that pattern. bvar22 Jun 2012 #273
Absolutely 100% correct, Bvar22 Blue_In_AK Jun 2012 #287
Excellent post, it should be an OP. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #301
Agree that this should be an OP. woo me with science Jun 2012 #319
Exactly. Well put. Marr Jun 2012 #378
Very salient observations and truedelphi Jun 2012 #468
I've always looked forward to reading your posts rudycantfail Jun 2012 #470
+++ and thank you inna Jun 2012 #473
These so called "grown-ups" of yours have fracked up the entire world. Zorra Jun 2012 #349
k&r for the thread title alone. Laelth Jun 2012 #167
Hammers and wood chippers. Javaman Jun 2012 #182
To hell with Turd Way. Kicked and rec'd. Erose999 Jun 2012 #186
Have you noticed? This is a "Third Way" website... nearly all vocal Lefties have been PPRed... Romulox Jun 2012 #191
true..there are still some of us who remain but its less interesting and less informative without xiamiam Jun 2012 #250
What does Third Way mean? Jamaal510 Jun 2012 #192
Wiki page is a good start: Poll_Blind Jun 2012 #197
Join the growing crowd stupidicus Jun 2012 #198
Heads-up: SPEECH in Ohio @ 1:45 today. Watch live! proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #208
Thank you. Is Halliburton even a U.S. company? JDPriestly Jun 2012 #218
yup--I've learned to love it librechik Jun 2012 #220
What is the legal argument regarding viewing these documents? treestar Jun 2012 #221
a new enforceable corporate global governance -- not a big deal, really. nashville_brook Jun 2012 #326
That is an opinion treestar Jun 2012 #362
i love that you're "of the opinion" that the secret trade deal is "too boring" to pay attention to, nashville_brook Jun 2012 #426
No, but why should Lori Wallach's opinion be one I should treestar Jun 2012 #453
The Third Way is a prime example of "The ends (getting elected) justifies the means". Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2012 #224
Third way is the GOP way porcinaalbastrucaine Jun 2012 #229
The lesser of two evils has become bupkus Jun 2012 #231
I hear what you're saying, Manny. Here's something that's been bothering me for a long time... truth2power Jun 2012 #232
In my state primary porcinaalbastrucaine Jun 2012 #235
That document doesn't exist, it's a figment of your hate filled imagination. whatchamacallit Jun 2012 #252
Read this as an answer on another Liberal website. It might help understand this news a little. Theross Jun 2012 #255
Top of the Greatest Threads, with 140 recs. woo me with science Jun 2012 #276
Kick...Like with Bush II ...I wake up every morning and say "What's Next!" ... KoKo Jun 2012 #278
Exactly. I knew he wasn't a raging librul, but I did "hope" (barf)... WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2012 #283
It is nice to see all the recs, and that the liberal and progressives quinnox Jun 2012 #280
Still strong? As strong as before? AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #286
No, we have lost some, but its good to see quinnox Jun 2012 #288
I may be forced to vote republican this year - his name is Obama on point Jun 2012 #284
ouch! nashville_brook Jun 2012 #324
this is EXACTLY how i feel too, Manny. this trade action is classic Clintonian fuckery nashville_brook Jun 2012 #293
after reading this thread i decided to put 2 members on ignore and guess what xiamiam Jun 2012 #296
I just had to clean hamburger bits off of my iPad MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #306
Let me guess, you put the top dog and his # 1 buddy. But the enablers are still running rhett o rick Jun 2012 #390
I can confirm that my "number of star members ignoring" just jumped by one. joshcryer Jun 2012 #398
If I were to understand this ... Bryn Jun 2012 #331
Good to know that ProSense Jun 2012 #332
The three free trade deals estimated to move > 100,000 jobs offshore MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #344
So you're trying to tell us that Ron Wyden is trying to aid Mitt Romney? brentspeak Jun 2012 #352
+1 nashville_brook Jun 2012 #427
That's ProSense Jun 2012 #440
Actually, ProSense Jun 2012 #438
Yes -- why does Obama keep acting like a Republican instead of a Democrat? brentspeak Jun 2012 #472
The choir salutes you. Jakes Progress Jun 2012 #359
Fuck the choir (whatever that means). n/t ProSense Jun 2012 #439
Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #452
Disagree Eastern Winds Jun 2012 #343
Good post Oilwellian Jun 2012 #347
The third way party is almost as bad as the GOP. Zorra Jun 2012 #350
In some way they are worse. nm rhett o rick Jun 2012 #423
Say it isn't so. My heart is deflating, if it is. nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #353
That's interesting Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2012 #380
Fucking Halliburton? Cali_Democrat Jun 2012 #402
Kick. pa28 Jun 2012 #403
#162nd rec here inna Jun 2012 #410
#163 but I was reluctant. Want to keep Manny humble. nm rhett o rick Jun 2012 #457
Wow! That sure brightened up my day. n/t Hotler Jun 2012 #422
Kicking, because I love this thread. WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2012 #433
I love you, Manny. Blue_In_AK Jun 2012 #448
Let's not get all maudlin. nm rhett o rick Jun 2012 #456
I love you, too, Rhett Blue_In_AK Jun 2012 #459
Good. And for the record, Warren has my vote. nm rhett o rick Jun 2012 #464
Aw, shucks MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #465
... Agony Jun 2012 #463
kick QC Jun 2012 #469
holy crap this is a long thread limpyhobbler Jun 2012 #471
Epic thread, Manny. Kaleko Jun 2012 #475
This thread links to the Huffington Post (a site funded by Scott Walker). joshcryer Jun 2012 #477
Right you are, it links to another posters thread Rex Jun 2012 #478
Except the controversial bit is "Revealing New Corporate Powers And Broken Campaign Promises." joshcryer Jun 2012 #479
Ugh...the criminal Issa Rex Jun 2012 #482
But "Third Way" Manny SUPPORTS NAFTA??? Weird! Romulox Jun 2012 #483
Heh, this will be so controversial, I actually agree with half of that... joshcryer Jun 2012 #484
So does CATO. nt Romulox Jun 2012 #485
I doubt CATO would want it to be renegotiated. joshcryer Jun 2012 #486
I don't think "Third Way" Manny wanted to touch this. Too confusing, I guess. Romulox Jun 2012 #491
Yeah, I failed hard there, I did NOT agree with their "modest" assessment, which is why I edited. joshcryer Jun 2012 #492
Hero worship meets cognitive dissonance is the most charitable explanation I can give. nt Romulox Jun 2012 #493
Actual Manny in no way, shape or form has ever supported NAFTA MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #495
He just disagrees with the consensus that it was a destroyer of millions of manufacturing jobs? Romulox Jun 2012 #496
Any jobs lost is tragic, awful MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #497
_^_ Zorra Jun 2012 #490
So....I gather from this thread unreadierLizard Jun 2012 #494
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