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bongbong

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26. Still trotting out the logical falsehood

Wed Jun 13, 2012, 05:02 PM

Jun 2012

A certain gun-religionist always - ALWAYS - trots out the same falsehood about some connection between more guns or looser gun laws with lesser gun violence.

When this particular gun-relgionist is told he is making a false statement, he sputters about not doing it - and then about .04 seconds later does it again.

Gun-religionists are a strange, strange breed.

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NRA Offers ‘Stand Your Ground’ Insurance To Cover Legal Costs Of Shooting People In Self-Defense [View all] kpete Jun 2012 OP

Now can we ban pro-NRA support from Democratic Underground? onehandle Jun 2012 #1

I haven't seen any support for the NRA here. I've seen a lot of gun owners here. eallen Jun 2012 #12

I'm one of them SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #18

You have another member sarisataka Jun 2012 #20

Don't Kid Yourself. Paladin Jun 2012 #21

So why don't you and your pal below SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #69

+1,000,000,000 baldguy Jun 2012 #37

My Dem candidate for Congress is a member of the NRA Kaleva Jun 2012 #48

Is this Bart Stupak's old district? sadbear Jun 2012 #52

Yes it is. Kaleva Jun 2012 #59

He's also anti-gay, anti-marriage equality, anti-abortion, etc, etc, etc. baldguy Jun 2012 #56

Which brings up a problem here in DU. Kaleva Jun 2012 #60

And yet, attacking Dems is always acceptable - if they're in favor of gun control. baldguy Jun 2012 #61

My Dem. Senator SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #72

Not supporting a Dem candidate who is a member of the NRA could get one PPR'd. Kaleva Jun 2012 #57

Democrats who were members of the DLC were driven away from that group. onehandle Jun 2012 #62

Support of the BoR is now classified as hate? Spoonman Jun 2012 #74

Speechless. myrna minx Jun 2012 #2

Wish I could honestly say this shocks me GObamaGO Jun 2012 #3

Sounds like premeditation to me. Baitball Blogger Jun 2012 #4

this is definitely premeditation NightWatcher Jun 2012 #6

How? hack89 Jun 2012 #13

Believe me, people who have access to power act differently when they know Baitball Blogger Jun 2012 #16

Not sure I agree. hack89 Jun 2012 #17

Still trotting out the logical falsehood bongbong Jun 2012 #26

There is no connection between more guns and less crime. hack89 Jun 2012 #28

We can also say with certainty... DanTex Jun 2012 #36

And our gun violence rates are skewed by drug violence hack89 Jun 2012 #38

Bullshit. Our gun violence rates are skewed by fucking guns. morningfog Jun 2012 #40

So lets make them illegal like drugs. That worked really well. hack89 Jun 2012 #42

So, WHO is killing WHO. Be specific, you seem to know. morningfog Jun 2012 #44

Organized gangs associate with the drug trade hack89 Jun 2012 #45

Is that the ones doing the killing or the ones being killed or both? morningfog Jun 2012 #47

Both hack89 Jun 2012 #49

I'm still unclear how you separate out access to guns? morningfog Jun 2012 #51

Did you dig through the FBI reports? hack89 Jun 2012 #53

I read through some. Who is killing who? You are the knowing one. morningfog Jun 2012 #54

Start with table 3. nt hack89 Jun 2012 #55

If you have some data, excerpt it and link it. morningfog Jun 2012 #58

I'm still curious about who is killing who. morningfog Jun 2012 #96

Premeditation of what? OneTenthofOnePercent Jun 2012 #24

So having liability insurance constitutes premeditation? Spoonman Jun 2012 #76

Do you really expect anything else from the NRA Drale Jun 2012 #5

Holy crap. Wait Wut Jun 2012 #7

Hey, isn't that Hank's dad from "King of the Hill"?...eom Kolesar Jun 2012 #8

Life insurance is so 20th century. Death insurance is NOW! KamaAina Jun 2012 #9

And Zombie insurance is for the future! ellisonz Jun 2012 #63

How is this different than other types of liability insurance? badtoworse Jun 2012 #10

Quelle Surprise !!! marmar Jun 2012 #11

This could back-fire [pun intended] rhett o rick Jun 2012 #14

Murder Insurance! SoutherDem Jun 2012 #15

They don't pay if it is murder. hack89 Jun 2012 #29

Guess I should have added a sarcasm smile SoutherDem Jun 2012 #34

Even if innocent, a civil suit can bankrupt anyone. hack89 Jun 2012 #35

Not true Spoonman Jun 2012 #79

I agree that every state should have such laws hack89 Jun 2012 #81

A "scoop"? sarisataka Jun 2012 #19

The "snide implication" is that blacks are most likely to be victimized by people with this EOTE Jun 2012 #22

So do you use your car insurance sarisataka Jun 2012 #23

Who purchases insurance to KILL SOMEONE. EOTE Jun 2012 #25

Answer for you bongbong Jun 2012 #27

Pretty much. EOTE Jun 2012 #30

Why? hack89 Jun 2012 #31

Read my post 25. EOTE Jun 2012 #32

Not making much sense there hack89 Jun 2012 #33

If you are poor, you're provided counsel. EOTE Jun 2012 #65

So what is the harm of this insurance? nt hack89 Jun 2012 #68

I've said it numerous times in this very thread. EOTE Jun 2012 #70

The only reason? Ok hack89 Jun 2012 #73

What other reason would there be? EOTE Jun 2012 #75

Have you considered that they are the victims of slick marketing? hack89 Jun 2012 #77

OK, either they want to kill someone OR they're idiots who'll fall for anything. EOTE Jun 2012 #78

As a matter of fact SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #80

The great, great, great majority of people never need to kill someone. EOTE Jun 2012 #82

This ins. has been around for years SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #83

Yes, that's my gut feeling. EOTE Jun 2012 #84

I'm not trying to be argumentive SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #85

Why would there be statistics? EOTE Jun 2012 #86

I can name 2 org. that would be jumping SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #88

Once again, only IF the studies had been done. EOTE Jun 2012 #90

I'm sorry if I didn't say this clearly SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #91

Sue? This is being charged with a crime. Fucking murder at that. Jesus. morningfog Jun 2012 #41

The insurance covers civil cases too - didn't you read the OP? nt hack89 Jun 2012 #43

Yeah, it covers both. morningfog Jun 2012 #46

No one sarisataka Jun 2012 #39

It doesn't matter if you have the resources or not. EOTE Jun 2012 #66

What the insurance does sarisataka Jun 2012 #93

And once again, one has the ability to counter sue if acquitted. EOTE Jun 2012 #94

We each have our opinions on this sarisataka Jun 2012 #95

I'm willing to bet that any policy issued has EXCLUSIONS... cherokeeprogressive Jun 2012 #50

Ummm, just how is this cartoon racist? EOTE Jun 2012 #67

The NRA is such a danger to this country it should be disbanded. I personally don't like guns BUT lookingfortruth Jun 2012 #64

Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #71

Probably a bad idea (assuming this isn't satire) 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #87

Not really SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #89

Great cartoon... made me giggle. LanternWaste Jun 2012 #92