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Freddie Stubbs

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4. Rather than speculate or listen to rumors, wouldn't it be better to look at the President's

Wed Jun 13, 2012, 12:51 PM

Jun 2012

actual actions on trade issues?

What he has done is likely to be more instructive that what he says he will do or what others say he will do.

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Is this true? Obama Trade Document Leaked, Revealing New Corporate Powers And Broken Campaign Promi [View all] still_one Jun 2012 OP

I don't know but I won't believe it Drale Jun 2012 #1

Stinks of Rove or a Rove-wannabe. Divide and Conquer indeed. emulatorloo Jun 2012 #17

It's the moles that Bush buried deep before he left office. woodsprite Jun 2012 #2

Are you kidding me? Marr Jun 2012 #6

Republicans have a long history of "ratfucking" emulatorloo Jun 2012 #18

Why does matter who leaked it? What matters is the secret corporate influence. limpyhobbler Jun 2012 #29

Aren't you used to it by now? kenny blankenship Jun 2012 #65

When it comes to smears JustAnotherGen Jun 2012 #3

Rather than speculate or listen to rumors, wouldn't it be better to look at the President's Freddie Stubbs Jun 2012 #4

In that case it is probably true. limpyhobbler Jun 2012 #7

Ha! Dawgs Jun 2012 #10

The President is too busy renegotiating NAFTA to sign such a deal! Romulox Jun 2012 #5

Here is article at Public Citizen and link to document PDF PufPuf23 Jun 2012 #8

There are no nations. There are no peoples. deutsey Jun 2012 #19

Yep... WillyT Jun 2012 #38

I'd like to see Network remade deutsey Jun 2012 #43

I Like... WillyT Jun 2012 #45

Agreed...so long as it's not like the remake of "The Taking of Pelham One Two Three" deutsey Jun 2012 #49

These provisions are way too outrageous to be true rusty fender Jun 2012 #27

but it's not too outrageous AND it is TRUE bajamary Jun 2012 #31

That borders on treason. Does Congress have any say in this? Do we have a functioning sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #70

Hope it's not true Remember Jun 2012 #9

They'll get worse than this if they vote Republican. Zalatix Jun 2012 #11

Sorry excuse. emilyg Jun 2012 #12

I know, "The Republicans are worse" is a piss poor consolation Zalatix Jun 2012 #13

Unbelievable, isn't it. Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #14

Makes my blood boil that emilyg Jun 2012 #30

really? HarveyDarkey Jun 2012 #42

we are being sold to China one deal at a time, goodbye independence and sovereignty. BTW if you msongs Jun 2012 #15

This is the third thread on this topic today thecrow Jun 2012 #16

Maybe because it's important. nt woo me with science Jun 2012 #22

That's what happens when you attack labor unions and democracy and the American people. limpyhobbler Jun 2012 #23

Obviously the AFL-CIO Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #28

what...are we supposed to just wait until is is a DONE DEAL? bajamary Jun 2012 #32

If the Chamber of Commerce is for this, if Rmoney is for this, and if Obama is for this, isn't this AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #20

CHENEY LEFT MOLES BEHIND IN SEVERAL FEDERAL AGENCIES. COMMON KNOWLEDGE secondwind Jun 2012 #21

The courageous whistle-blower who leaked this info is an American hero. limpyhobbler Jun 2012 #24

lol, good one uponit7771 Jun 2012 #26

If a Repug administration was negotiating this Teamster Jeff Jun 2012 #25

"He has virtually destroyed the democratic party" Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #39

Horrible news! Probably true! JDPriestly Jun 2012 #33

What makes you think Hillary, who is good at her job, is behind this? Autumn Jun 2012 #51

Question: How Many Pawns Are There... In 3-Dimensional Chess ??? WillyT Jun 2012 #34

310,598,599 Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #35

Sounds About Right... Sigh... WillyT Jun 2012 #36

Ouch. morningfog Jun 2012 #46

IF THIS IS TRUE, I AM VOTING FOR RMONEY! siligut Jun 2012 #37

This is the kind of crap the KKKarl Rove moles at DU thrive on. Try Harder! Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #40

So, you are saying that this document is a fake? Or that it doesn't say Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #41

*crickets* Occulus Jun 2012 #44

*crickets* is Tarheel_Dem's middle name. Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #55

*Crickets* WillyT Jun 2012 #50

Is the document fake? morningfog Jun 2012 #68

It looks like a set of regulatory controls and standards upon existing trade bhikkhu Jun 2012 #47

When that mediating body can rule against the laws and regulations of a sovereign state Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #48

It Has Happened Before... (NAFTA) WillyT Jun 2012 #52

Each and every day we are screwed in every way. Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #54

The WTO members, us included, agree to arbitration in trade disputes bhikkhu Jun 2012 #56

When trade agreements include provisions to override a nation's environmental, Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #57

Yes, and there certainly needs to be a balance bhikkhu Jun 2012 #59

Umm, you can protest and have input into the process and the proposed legal structure. Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #60

Trade relations are and have always been the responsibility of the president bhikkhu Jun 2012 #63

We could have arrived at your position on this merely by your post history. It's reflexive. nt Romulox Jun 2012 #64

I don't care about the leaker as much as the lack of transparency. Octafish Jun 2012 #53

+1 KoKo Jun 2012 #62

Who leaked it is backburner to what the contents were. TheKentuckian Jun 2012 #58

Every day. Every damned day there is a new one. nt woo me with science Jun 2012 #61

What's hilarious is it's like the multiple stages of grief. First, flat denial. Then, Bush moles. Romulox Jun 2012 #66

kick brentspeak Jun 2012 #67

Kick woo me with science Jun 2012 #69