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GarroHorus

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5. Because the budget includes raising revenue and under the constitution ALL bills for raising...

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 06:39 PM

Jun 2012

revenue MUST originate in the House of Representatives:

[quote]United States Constitution

Article I.

Section 7.

All bills for raising revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with amendments as on other Bills.[/quote]

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ugh. Why hasn't the Democratic-led Senate submitted/passed a budget in 3 years? [View all] Pryderi Jun 2012 OP

Because of the number of votes needed and the toxic makeup from the right in the senate. nt mfcorey1 Jun 2012 #1

Bookmarking for later. I think your brother is wrong on the facts or, at best, coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #2

Because the House does budgets Blue_In_AK Jun 2012 #3

Well... Except they've passed some. FBaggins Jun 2012 #6

A correct answer Yupster Jun 2012 #25

Budget resolutions set targets for Congress, they are not law. tritsofme Jun 2012 #39

Here is one - I'll find the others tabatha Jun 2012 #4

Because the budget includes raising revenue and under the constitution ALL bills for raising... GarroHorus Jun 2012 #5

Bing! It's literally illegal for the Senate to create a budget. TheWraith Jun 2012 #8

Gosh - so all these years that each house would pass their budget Yupster Jun 2012 #26

Might want to check the wording of the constitution GarroHorus Jun 2012 #34

Okay, that's what I was thinking of. Blue_In_AK Jun 2012 #9

Budgets are plans, not spending bills dems_rightnow Jun 2012 #10

It looks like the President is the one that actually submits a budget. Pryderi Jun 2012 #13

The President has submitted a budget. It didn't pass. FarLeftFist Jun 2012 #18

And then the house presented a budget and it did pass Yupster Jun 2012 #28

Once the House passes a budget, it takes 60 votes in the Senate to do anything. GarroHorus Jun 2012 #35

Budget resolutions pass the Senate with 50+1 votes. nt tritsofme Jun 2012 #40

good explanation from PolitiFact Enrique Jun 2012 #7

Thanks. I guess it proves my brother is correct. :( n/t Pryderi Jun 2012 #11

They passed the Budget Control Act... kentuck Jun 2012 #17

Your brother may be technically correct that the Senate has coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #27

Hope he returns soon to get this for his brother. Kicking it. freshwest Jun 2012 #33

Thanks!!! n/t Pryderi Jun 2012 #38

Ask your brother if he believes he could get 60 Senators to agree the slky is blue. GarroHorus Jun 2012 #36

because money bills start in the house demtenjeep Jun 2012 #12

They did indeed start it Yupster Jun 2012 #29

Senate requires 60 votes. GarroHorus Jun 2012 #37

Fact Sheet Responding to Republican “No Budget” Claims Tennessee Gal Jun 2012 #14

Yep. kentuck Jun 2012 #20

Filibuster without having to actually speak for hours on end. HopeHoops Jun 2012 #15

Ding Ding Ding Ding! YellowRubberDuckie Jun 2012 #19

Thanks, but that's the real problem with it. As per the Constitution... HopeHoops Jun 2012 #22

I agree... YellowRubberDuckie Jun 2012 #24

The filibuster does not apply to budget bills Yupster Jun 2012 #30

Yeah but they throw in irrelevant shit like abortion legislation to get around that. HopeHoops Jun 2012 #31

Harry Reid could write whatever budget he wants Yupster Jun 2012 #32

Budget bills aren't filibustered Yupster Jun 2012 #21

No. They only require a majority of those present. But they've still been filibustered. HopeHoops Jun 2012 #23

Budget bills must originate in the House The Second Stone Jun 2012 #16

Republican Obstruction, and your brother B Calm Jun 2012 #41