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dionysus

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48. booze does (more like, can do) the same thing... of course SOME people

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 02:17 PM

Jun 2012

who smoke dope are going to let it control their lives and be loser stoners. i know a few.

then again, plenty more people can smoke and not have it negatively impact their lives.

it's more the personality traits of the user than the substance being used.

if we were talking about crystal meth, it'd be one thing, but we're not...

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Great Non-Medical Reasons To Legalize Weed [View all] kpete Jun 2012 OP

Great reason to NOT smoke weed even if legal? FrodosPet Jun 2012 #1

FrodosPet kpete Jun 2012 #2

Unfortunately not FrodosPet Jun 2012 #4

Why would anyone take advice from someone who describes *himself* as "stuck in a rut"? Romulox Jun 2012 #6

Because they might want to avoid ending up like me? FrodosPet Jun 2012 #8

Logic problem: I have *already* avoided ending up like you. Romulox Jun 2012 #10

Congratulations! FrodosPet Jun 2012 #12

You miss my point. Moobs come from poor diet and lack of exercise. Now that you're "clean", Romulox Jun 2012 #17

Yes. There are plenty of people who use marijuana responsibly. phleshdef Jun 2012 #29

I smoked for 42 years while holding down a job madokie Jun 2012 #32

Perhaps if you had been able to by pot at reasonable prices you wouldn't have blown all your money. Ganja Ninja Jun 2012 #50

Maybe this will help lame54 Jun 2012 #22

Where do these authoritarians come from, and why are they attracted to DU??? Romulox Jun 2012 #3

I come from looking at an eviction notice FrodosPet Jun 2012 #5

Well, my mortgage is paid. Perhaps there's *something else* going on here. Romulox Jun 2012 #7

OK. Sorry. YOU can maintain, so EVERYONE can maintain! FrodosPet Jun 2012 #9

Just like *you* can't, so you want to punish everyone else. Romulox Jun 2012 #11

FrodosPet kpete Jun 2012 #13

Thank you. FrodosPet Jun 2012 #15

I'm convinced there are folks who just can't do it, like alcoholics riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #16

Vicodin is an opiate--narcotic opioid alkaloids found as natural products in the opium poppy plant Romulox Jun 2012 #18

This is true. You aren't physically addicted. FrodosPet Jun 2012 #19

Marijuana doesn't give you ESP. You talk about what is on *your* mind; you don't know me. nt Romulox Jun 2012 #23

That's fine. I've just met too many people whose habit has consumed their life riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #20

Facts matter. Anybody who lectures on this subject needs to understand the basics. nt Romulox Jun 2012 #24

You seem to be the only one lecturing nt riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #27

You compared pot smokers to "those who get hooked on Vicodin." It's a basic misunderstanding Romulox Jun 2012 #28

I was making a comparison to other legal substances riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #30

Both the substances you cited have been proven to be physically addictive. Marijuana has not. Romulox Jun 2012 #31

If you look at my posts, I've never once said its addictive riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #33

Your debate, it would seem, is with the peer-reviewed science of the matter. nt Romulox Jun 2012 #34

Nope. Its not. Any habit that's fucking up your life should be stopped riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #36

I think one of the main reasons pot is illegal is that it may expand one's vision of a life well Romulox Jun 2012 #39

You know, I've told my story on DU several times and why I take this position riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #64

Peace and blessings to your husband FrodosPet Jun 2012 #65

Without some kind of *empirical fact* to back it up, it's impossible to put anecdotes like yours in Romulox Jun 2012 #67

Yes, facts DO matter! FrodosPet Jun 2012 #37

Your over-riding thesis seems to be that *your* life is a mess. We can't help you here. Romulox Jun 2012 #40

I sincerely hope my series of responses to you wasn't cruel. However, I will NOT enable "magical Romulox Jun 2012 #68

Well, I am an agnostic non-supernaturalist, so magic is not a thing for me. FrodosPet Jun 2012 #70

"Magical thinking" refers not to religion, but to the cognitive crutches Romulox Jun 2012 #71

Once upon a time, I could run for MILES FrodosPet Jun 2012 #73

so don't smoke if it affects you that way, good grief shanti Jun 2012 #44

Normal? FrodosPet Jun 2012 #75

booze is legal, should we ban it because some people are drunks? dionysus Jun 2012 #47

Of course not. FrodosPet Jun 2012 #57

stop blaming the pot Viva_La_Revolution Jun 2012 #26

So you realize it's yourself that's the problem and not the pot? EOTE Jun 2012 #72

I'm sorry Frodospet. My nephew could be your twin riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #14

some people just have shanti Jun 2012 #45

For some people though, weed is the problem thing. riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #46

The point is if weed did not exist, it would be alcohol jeff47 Jun 2012 #51

I've never been to AA. Is it massive guilt tripping? riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #55

It's all about how you are utterly powerless jeff47 Jun 2012 #58

booze does (more like, can do) the same thing... of course SOME people dionysus Jun 2012 #48

Agreed on all points. riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #52

Funny thing, that. I smoked weed all through college and wound up a veterinarian with my own kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #35

Thats's EXACTLY what I am doing FrodosPet Jun 2012 #43

you seem to be conflating your issue with other people... dionysus Jun 2012 #49

OK, I surrender! FrodosPet Jun 2012 #60

I have reason to wonder about the actual truth of your situation. kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #59

You caught me! FrodosPet Jun 2012 #61

good luck ... hope you can get it under control ThomThom Jun 2012 #77

Thank you! FrodosPet Jun 2012 #78

I am glad you were able to increase your happiness and better yourself. nt ZombieHorde Jun 2012 #38

I haven't YET FrodosPet Jun 2012 #62

Many people can't or shouldn't use and that can be applied to anything, You're not the first Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #41

Both FrodosPet Jun 2012 #63

I am sorry to hear it has been a burden for you. raouldukelives Jun 2012 #42

tell it to michael phelps.. frylock Jun 2012 #54

My daughter's friend revolution breeze Jun 2012 #56

Must every one of these conversations devolve into statistical outliers? RadiationTherapy Jun 2012 #21

Or some self-righteous self-help session, for that matter... nt Romulox Jun 2012 #25

I recced this thread old friend. Cannabis is unique-worthy of distinction. bobthedrummer Jun 2012 #53

I grow my own sorefeet Jun 2012 #66

"To call sensi a 'drug' is very absurd. It should be known as a natural herb..." Romulox Jun 2012 #69

what happened to all the replies?? shanti Jun 2012 #74

Motivation mick063 Jun 2012 #76