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In reply to the discussion: 49 Years After Kennedy Signed The Equal Pay Act, Women Still Earn 77 Cents To A Man’s Dollar [View all]lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)70. What is it about plumbing, welding and garbage collection that precludes women?
What is it about math and hard sciences that exclude women in college?
It is infantilizing to say that women have no self agency. They do, and they make choices that are consistent with the life they want to live.
And men share a responsibility to care for the household. It is up to the parties involved to figure out what that means.
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49 Years After Kennedy Signed The Equal Pay Act, Women Still Earn 77 Cents To A Man’s Dollar [View all]
SunsetDreams
Jun 2012
OP
Seriously? A woman's part time employer should pay her more because she does more household work?
lumberjack_jeff
Jun 2012
#27
What is it about plumbing, welding and garbage collection that precludes women?
lumberjack_jeff
Jun 2012
#70
A female welder should absolutely earn the same hourly wage as an equally accomplished male welder.
lumberjack_jeff
Jun 2012
#79
Romney would work to get that to women earning 50 cents or less to a man’s dollar. n/t
RKP5637
Jun 2012
#2
the fact that women have a bachelor's degree doesn't tell you much. what's the degree in?
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#91
Young metropolitan women are better educated and make more money than their male peers?
lumberjack_jeff
Jun 2012
#16
What about singled, divorced and widowed women? They are usually the ONLY breadwinners.
spooky3
Jun 2012
#7
Again, HOURS TO HOURS women get paid less given all RELAVENT JOB FACTORS. Now if you want to
uponit7771
Jun 2012
#57
the 77% statistic doesn't compare hours to hours. it compares full-time workers to full-time
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#88
if you experienced discrimination, why wouldn't you file suit? why would you care about people
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#116
right, attorneys never take discriminations cases. you want other people to help highly paid
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#137
how does posting a half-dozen "lols" with eye-rolling avatars make you tired? it's not exactly
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#145
read Prof. Francine Blau's and other experts' MULTIVARIATE research on pay issues
spooky3
Jun 2012
#23
here's one of doctor blau's papers (2000). she looks at various countries & their ratio of male to
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#106
that's an article from msnbc. other people post research articles and you ignore them.
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#92
yes, & i trust the media to report research accurately like i trust the mafia. seen them
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#103
gosh you're annoying. as my criticism of all these posts that blare "TWENTY-THREE PERCENT WAGE
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#105
that attitude will win you lots of supporters & voters among low-wage women, i'm sure.
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#109
that's exactly what it is. they just compared the median wage of all male v. female workers
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#96
So you're saying MOST of the pay disparity is voluntary? If not then what you've said makes little..
uponit7771
Jun 2012
#38
So you're saying everyone who authors comprehensive studies on gender pay shouldn't bother?
Major Nikon
Jun 2012
#39
which there seem to be a lot of in this thread. you'd think it was 1950, some of the rhetoric is
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#93
if that was your experience, why didn't you file a lawsuit? illegal since 1963.
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#89
+++ THIS IS RIGHT WING BULLSHIT!!! WOMEN WITH SAME AMOUNT OF TIME ON JOB STILL PAID LESS +++
uponit7771
Jun 2012
#37
Thx, gotta make sure to holler louder for the truth than conservative do for lies
uponit7771
Jun 2012
#50
Then you're making their point and your link is STILLY LYING, there's gap... no matter what...
uponit7771
Jun 2012
#51
Also, the study was work hours to work hours...you can NOT discard that as a control!!
uponit7771
Jun 2012
#52
There may be a gap. It might be as much as one-fifth of that claimed by the op. n/t
lumberjack_jeff
Jun 2012
#59
it was not work hours to work hours. it was "full-time" to "full-time". full-time can be anything
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#95
Old propaganda that doesn't fly. Women in the same jobs, with the same experience, still earn less.
DirkGently
Jun 2012
#90
:sigh: I'll never forget the horselaugh my Grandmother let out when she heard the news.
TygrBright
Jun 2012
#25
it punishes men's work too. non-union framers here start at around $8-$10. and union jobs are
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#114
I've read that women in general are less aggressive in pushing for raises
4th law of robotics
Jun 2012
#45
This is false, hours to hours women still get paid less. Also, women HAVING to "push" for the same..
uponit7771
Jun 2012
#56
so what? seriously, men are called names too when they are pushy, but it doesn't seem to stop them.
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#117
I'm a woman & I've worked for 40 years. You post smiley-faces and LOLs and "poor baby" at me.
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#151
"People think stuff like this is going to win Obama the women's vote. I doubt it."
lumberjack_jeff
Jun 2012
#53
another bs post, hours to hours women get paid LESS PERIOD end of story. You can fudge how MUCH
uponit7771
Jun 2012
#55
the number simply compares all male full-time workers to all female full-time workers, with no
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#87
I'm not complimenting the use of a 320 year old poem in defense of the factual basis of the OP. n/t
lumberjack_jeff
Jun 2012
#126
I said I wouldn't speculate, but I think the second may have a bit to do with it.
Xithras
Jun 2012
#75
"Acting aggressive" in this context is less offputting to the boss than to peers
lumberjack_jeff
Jun 2012
#80
I must have slept through the "Negotiating Salaries for Men" class
4th law of robotics
Jun 2012
#121