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ProSense

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140. Again,

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 12:52 AM

Jun 2012

"That was my premise. You can't defend Obama's crappy policy, so you attack the liberal journalist who criticizes Obama's crappy policy."

...Greenwald isn't a "liberal journalist," and the OP is about Greenwald's constant attacks on anyone who doesn't agree with him. Like I said, for a guy who supported a war crime/criminal, his hypocrisy knows no bounds.

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Is Glenn Greenwald trying to save face? [View all] ProSense Jun 2012 OP

There's no shock to GG being a hypocrite. n/t Chan790 Jun 2012 #1

Everyone knows, because he told people, that he initially supported the Iraq war and was then sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #2

+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT Jun 2012 #3

Interesting ProSense Jun 2012 #7

Failed attempt to twist my words. Look again. YOU claimed that it was villainous sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #26

No ProSense Jun 2012 #28

Oh there's much more, that is just the lightweight stuff which I though you might be interested in. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #30

Haha, that's perfect. I would place him there, actually. joshcryer Jun 2012 #34

BBI was called "highly respected" too...nt SidDithers Jun 2012 #44

Exactly. Bobbie Jo Jun 2012 #64

You're 'naut' series are you? sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #154

Irony. You keep using that word... SidDithers Jun 2012 #155

Well said. woo me with science Jun 2012 #8

Well he is given credit for acknowledging his mistake about the war. pennylane100 Jun 2012 #18

He wasn't comfortable with his support as he explains in his book, because things struck him as not sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #29

Yes, I also remember the awful time when Bush became president. pennylane100 Jun 2012 #52

I've seen people throw Juan Cole under the bus for much less than Greenwald. joshcryer Jun 2012 #32

I still don't get how anyone with half a brain could have supported that shit. cali Jun 2012 #50

You are saying Greenwald was more gullible than EVERYONE WHO WAS ON DU. Robb Jun 2012 #69

GG should have done what John Kerry did in 2004, i.e., say he would still have coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #73

thank god for Glenn; thanks for the thread btw inna Jun 2012 #4

Oh I threw Juan Cole under the bus long before that, when he turned around and supported the Iraq sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #39

great post (as always), Sabrina; i'm sure it was meant to be directed at someone else inna Jun 2012 #58

Thank you, Glenn Greenwald. nt woo me with science Jun 2012 #5

What purpose does it serve to continually attack liberal journalists? girl gone mad Jun 2012 #6

Well, ProSense Jun 2012 #9

Yes, I consider Greenwald to be a liberal journalist. girl gone mad Jun 2012 #10

This ProSense Jun 2012 #11

For example, ProSense Jun 2012 #12

You disagree with Greenwald on one position: therefore he is not a liberal journalist? girl gone mad Jun 2012 #16

Wait, ProSense Jun 2012 #18

Can you answer the question, please? girl gone mad Jun 2012 #79

Greewald is a LIBERTARIAN writer, not a left-wing writer GarroHorus Jun 2012 #81

What is this, the schoolyard? girl gone mad Jun 2012 #85

Put Greewnald's picture right on top of Gingrich GarroHorus Jun 2012 #90

That would be an inaccurate placement.. girl gone mad Jun 2012 #99

The Civil Liberties Union had the exact same position as Greenwald on Citizens United. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #37

Would be kinda hard for him to comment on Wisconsin... SidDithers Jun 2012 #45

And so did the ACLU GeorgeGist Jun 2012 #49

I suspect that the attack on Greenwald is motivated by jealousy. JDPriestly Jun 2012 #40

GG is a Libertarian, not a liberal, writer frazzled Jun 2012 #48

Wasn't he disbarred? n/t GarroHorus Jun 2012 #61

Not that I know of. /nt frazzled Jun 2012 #63

I did a search and discovered/remembered his infamy as an attorney, Defense attorney for a Neo-Nazi GarroHorus Jun 2012 #65

That's a hell of a sliming you posted there Capt. Obvious Jun 2012 #147

Yeah, the truth is now "sliming" GarroHorus Jun 2012 #148

So, lies and what can be best described as half-truths are now truth Capt. Obvious Jun 2012 #149

TRUTH: Greenwald defended HAle GarroHorus Jun 2012 #152

You've made inuendo an art form Capt. Obvious Jun 2012 #153

That would be a righteous SmackDown! Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #161

Only if you believe that the accused are not entitled to a defense and Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #164

Truth: Greenwald defended Hale in a First Amendment civil rights case... Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #163

He isn't attacking a liberal journalist. He's attacking a FAKE liberal journalist. n/t GarroHorus Jun 2012 #60

You don't even seem to know what a liberal is.. girl gone mad Jun 2012 #109

Perhaps you should ask Glenn. (nt) jeff47 Jun 2012 #112

If you don't want someone writing these truths about Obama, talk to Obama about not Lionessa Jun 2012 #13

There is ProSense Jun 2012 #15

You mean you will express the opinions your boss tells you to Hillary is 45 Jun 2012 #35

Welcome back? That's quite a personal attack on a longtime DU member from someone who..... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #41

I notice you are not saying I'm wrong Hillary is 45 Jun 2012 #51

I'm saying ProSense Jun 2012 #103

Thank goodness for the TOS. A jury let the post stand, but Skinner took out the trash! Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #125

You still didn't explain how you know the inner workings and posting histories of DU members..... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #108

Come back soon, again... SidDithers Jun 2012 #46

A jury let this stand...unbelievable. nt sufrommich Jun 2012 #53

It's what virtually everyone believes.. girl gone mad Jun 2012 #77

It must be gratifying Bobbie Jo Jun 2012 #78

You probably can find better things to do with your time.. girl gone mad Jun 2012 #83

And this post was different, how? Bobbie Jo Jun 2012 #89

+1,000,000,000,000 n/t GarroHorus Jun 2012 #92

I was responding to the fact that a jury let the post stand. girl gone mad Jun 2012 #105

Is this ProSense Jun 2012 #106

Its simple analysis based on all available evidence. girl gone mad Jun 2012 #114

So ProSense Jun 2012 #115

Yeah, I see what you did there. Bobbie Jo Jun 2012 #143

And by "virtually everyone" you mean the anti-Obama left at DU? How's this? Why don't we all... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #142

"virtually everyone"? sufrommich Jun 2012 #146

I wish ProSense Jun 2012 #102

Ha! You Feel Good. politicasista Jun 2012 #157

Changing your mind when facts change isn't hypocrisy. However, Lionessa Jun 2012 #56

Is there a reason you obsess on journalists and bloggers who fall to the left of you? LeftyMom Jun 2012 #14

Is there ProSense Jun 2012 #17

Sorry, double posted. LeftyMom Jun 2012 #18

And ProSense Jun 2012 #22

Starting a skillion threads about some journalist who offended you is obsessive. LeftyMom Jun 2012 #23

Do you ProSense Jun 2012 #25

"some journalist who offended you is obsessive". You probably didn't intent it, but.... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #31

Nobody's saying you have to like anybody. LeftyMom Jun 2012 #18

Seriously, ProSense Jun 2012 #24

"Seriously, consider not focusing on me." girl gone mad Jun 2012 #117

Wait ProSense Jun 2012 #121

So then that is your objective. girl gone mad Jun 2012 #124

What? ProSense Jun 2012 #127

and some DUers seem to have an obsession with Prosense. go figure. dionysus Jun 2012 #55

Glenn who? grantcart Jun 2012 #27

You're a brave soul for tangling with the "Leave Glenn Alone" contingency! Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #33

what defense of scott walker dsc Jun 2012 #62

That's just nasty n/t politicasista Jun 2012 #158

Thank you. We try. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #160

You all do good politicasista Jun 2012 #162

Greenwald Derangement Syndrome whatchamacallit Jun 2012 #36

I'm with Greenwald on his criticisms of Obama. JDPriestly Jun 2012 #38

Spam deleted by Morning Dew (MIR Team) Thomas4 Jun 2012 #42

K&R. Greenwald is a clown...nt SidDithers Jun 2012 #43

Sooner or later that Third Way Shit will stick... Junkdrawer Jun 2012 #47

He Believed Their Lies????? otohara Jun 2012 #54

Should Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, or John Kerry be chastised for their commentary on Obama? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2012 #57

Greenwald is a Republican in "liberal" clothing GarroHorus Jun 2012 #59

You've just proven that you're not to be taken seriously. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2012 #87

Iraq war supporter and opposes anything Obama says or does GarroHorus Jun 2012 #91

+1. "Add defender of a Neo-Nazi to the list and the fucker is anything BUT liberal." Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #119

I.am firmly convinced.Glenn Greenwald is a Libertairian White Supremacist GarroHorus Jun 2012 #128

And guess what? I agree with you. His affection for Ron Paul style politics is a dead giveaway. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #131

+1,000 n/t GarroHorus Jun 2012 #135

Glenn's a blowhard nitwit, like much of the professionally-opinionated class struggle4progress Jun 2012 #66

Character assassination OP. Glen Greenwald is a journalist and nothing more. morningfog Jun 2012 #67

He is NOT a journalist GarroHorus Jun 2012 #70

lol. morningfog Jun 2012 #72

He supported drones,... GarroHorus Jun 2012 #74

Supported or represented Hale? There is a difference, you know. morningfog Jun 2012 #76

He supported every drone strike of Bush in more countries than IRaq GarroHorus Jun 2012 #80

Link to support of drone strikes outside of Iraq? morningfog Jun 2012 #94

No difference, IMO n/t GarroHorus Jun 2012 #95

Did you not read my previous post? morningfog Jun 2012 #97

Rec Number23 Jun 2012 #68

It's not surprising from a guy so connected to Matthew Hale, Neo-Nazi murderer. GarroHorus Jun 2012 #71

The ACLU also defended NAZIs I suppose they are racist too. dsc Jun 2012 #75

The ACU is not a right wing Libertarian organization. GarroHorus Jun 2012 #82

actually the ACU (American Conservative Union) is a right wing organization dsc Jun 2012 #116

Thank You! Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #130

He doesn't need to. He's doing his job. Octafish Jun 2012 #84

All he writes are LIES GarroHorus Jun 2012 #93

Really? Here he discusses Telcom immunity and domestic spying with Cass Sunstein... Octafish Jun 2012 #98

A paid, amoral shill with the mind of a savant & the heart of a robot DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2012 #86

Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #96

Thus far ProSense Jun 2012 #100

The journalist with an opinion has blood on his hands.. girl gone mad Jun 2012 #107

Hey ProSense Jun 2012 #110

I would think that the relevance of the comparison was obvious. Marr Jun 2012 #122

"he comes off like a gullible tool who fell for Bush's lies" girl gone mad Jun 2012 #123

What ProSense Jun 2012 #129

Let me ask you this, prosense.. girl gone mad Jun 2012 #132

Unlike you ProSense Jun 2012 #133

"I'm not "defending crappy policy" I'm criticizing a smug, self-righteous and hypocritical asshole." girl gone mad Jun 2012 #139

Again, ProSense Jun 2012 #140

It literally Blows my mind that the post calling you an "amoral paid shill" Number23 Jun 2012 #141

I dont mind you calling Greenwald or other public figure names, but I am hoping you are rhett o rick Jun 2012 #111

Anyone who looked at it rationally and thought it through knew there were no WMD quaker bill Jun 2012 #88

My rational was that if Bush said they had WMD then I was convinced they didnt. It's actually rhett o rick Jun 2012 #113

By that point I had stopped listening to Bush at all quaker bill Jun 2012 #144

Thank you for this post GarroHorus Jun 2012 #101

GG lost all credibility when he gave a thumbs-up to the Iraq War and Citizens United. AtomicKitten Jun 2012 #104

How can you attack a liberal journalist for something you excuse in Democratic politicians? Marr Jun 2012 #118

Conversely, ProSense Jun 2012 #126

How can you attack a liberal journalist for something you excuse in Democratic politicians? Marr Jun 2012 #134

You ProSense Jun 2012 #136

Again, you don't answer. Marr Jun 2012 #137

It's there, you're simply ignoring it. n/t ProSense Jun 2012 #138

Greenwald is a right wing turd masquerading as left to enlist the useful idiots alcibiades_mystery Jun 2012 #120

Raw Story apologized to Greenwald Enrique Jun 2012 #145

Good for them. ProSense Jun 2012 #150

if anyone from Salon slimed anyone on Twitter Enrique Jun 2012 #151

Well now that we know one of the sources of all this vitriol, that site where a banned troll from sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #159

Kick politicasista Jun 2012 #156