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HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 04:39 AM Jun 2012

Louisiana's new voucher program gives $$ to religious "schools" without facilities or teachers [View all]

New Living Word School in Ruston has been approved by the Louisiana Department of Education to accept 315 students as part of the state’s scholarship program, but the school doesn’t currently have the facilities, computers or teachers in place to accommodate that many students.

State education officials wouldn’t know that because site visits aren’t a part of the approval process... The school... applied for and was granted approval for an additional 315 students... the largest number of available seats for any single school in the state. The next largest number of available seats at a single school is 214 at The Upperroom Bible Church Academy in Orleans.

According to the school’s application, the cost per student for the next school year will be $8,500, which is $32 less that the state’s maximum allowable reimbursable tuition... If New Living Word meets its goal of 315 new students, it would receive almost $2.7 million in Minimum Foundation Program money for those new students.

Baldwin said students in classes are given primary instruction by watching a DVD, which he calls a “technology teacher,” while a classroom teacher manages the class, reviews homework, answers questions and gives assignments.

http://www.thenewsstar.com/article/20120525/NEWS01/120525022/School-willing-take-315-students-through-vouchers-lacks-building-computers


Louisiana's bold bid to privatize schools

Louisiana is embarking on the nation's boldest experiment in privatizing public education, with the state preparing to shift tens of millions in tax dollars out of the public schools to pay private industry, businesses owners and church pastors to educate children...Every time a student receives a voucher of either type, his local public school will lose a chunk of state funding.

Of the plans so far put forward, Louisiana's plan is by far the broadest. This month, eligible families, including those with incomes nearing $60,000 a year, are submitting applications for vouchers to state-approved private schools. That list includes some of the most prestigious schools in the state... The top schools, however, have just a handful of slots open...As elsewhere, they will be picked in a lottery.

The school willing to accept the most voucher students -- 314 -- is New Living Word in Ruston, which has a top-ranked basketball team but no library. Students spend most of the day watching TVs in bare-bones classrooms. Each lesson consists of an instructional DVD that intersperses Biblical verses with subjects such chemistry or composition. The Upperroom Bible Church Academy in New Orleans, a bunker-like building with no windows or playground, also has plenty of slots open...

At Eternity Christian Academy in Westlake, pastor-turned-principal Marie Carrier hopes to secure extra space to enroll 135 voucher students...Her first- through eighth-grade students sit in cubicles for much of the day and move at their own pace through Christian workbooks, such as a beginning science text that explains "what God made" on each of the six days of creation...

In general, (Superintendant of Education) White said he will leave it to principals to be sure their curriculum covers all subjects kids need and leave it to parents to judge the quality of each private school on the list...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/01/us-education-vouchers-idUSL1E8H10AG20120601


What happens when money is channeled into religion? It gives it a bigger power base.

These schools charge tuition, which used to be paid for by parents, and was less than the cost per pupil at public schools. They are now raising tuitions to be comparable to public school cost per pupil so they can get more money. So much for the cost argument.

Do you think the extra money is going to go into the kids?


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Another post about the corruption inherent in the so-called "education reform" movement that HiPointDem Jun 2012 #1
Voucher programs that include religious schools violate the First Amendment, in my opinion MH1 Jun 2012 #2
+1000, but religion is untouchable in this country. n-t Logical Jun 2012 #13
I live in Louisiana revolution breeze Jun 2012 #3
did you ever think onethatcares Jun 2012 #5
I don't fault the teachers revolution breeze Jun 2012 #18
Did you read the article in the op, and understand why it's an abuse? MH1 Jun 2012 #6
I am a very hands on parent revolution breeze Jun 2012 #12
You should do what is best for your daughter MattBaggins Jun 2012 #65
Why should you give money revolution breeze Jun 2012 #69
Completely wrong MattBaggins Jun 2012 #75
The system is broken, no one watch to fix it revolution breeze Jun 2012 #77
If it's available and it will better for your daughter, you should do it SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2012 #78
Should she feel guilty about taking money from the local system MattBaggins Jun 2012 #81
Nope, not if it is better for her child SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2012 #82
Louisiana revolution breeze Jun 2012 #83
How would you feel revolution breeze Jun 2012 #85
yes you are stuck between a rock and a hard place MattBaggins Jun 2012 #86
+1 proud2BlibKansan Jun 2012 #90
Or the public school system will get so bad revolution breeze Jun 2012 #91
You shouldn't feel bad about what doing what is best for your child SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2012 #9
Very well said. MightyOkie Jun 2012 #88
You realize the voucher system is hurting the public schools you are complaining about??? Logical Jun 2012 #15
Yes I do. revolution breeze Jun 2012 #35
I assume that this school has classrooms, teachers, and other amenities KamaAina Jun 2012 #55
Hell, they should give the money to me. Reader Rabbit Jun 2012 #4
I'm with you! KansDem Jun 2012 #23
I'll help you! proud2BlibKansan Jun 2012 #27
I haven't got a basement, just a crawl space... KansDem Jun 2012 #33
I have a huge basement. We can have TWO campuses! proud2BlibKansan Jun 2012 #38
Hell no! OriginalGeek Jun 2012 #98
I like the way you think! KansDem Jun 2012 #99
I'm in! OriginalGeek Jun 2012 #100
Gee, this couldn't be another scheme to transfer public wealth to private hands, could it? marmar Jun 2012 #7
NO, this transfers money to Jesus and his ministry so they can brainwash children L. Coyote Jun 2012 #20
It's all about the benjamins DefenseLawyer Jun 2012 #76
I think this is a great plan to give parents more options for their children. AJTheMan Jun 2012 #8
I think this is a great plan to promote more graft, fraud & corruption, & failure. HiPointDem Jun 2012 #11
I see you have been to New Orleans revolution breeze Jun 2012 #14
And continuing that is a solution how? proud2BlibKansan Jun 2012 #28
It isn't. revolution breeze Jun 2012 #34
I understand it won't be easy proud2BlibKansan Jun 2012 #37
Here is the mentality I am working with..... revolution breeze Jun 2012 #59
Why is that offensive? proud2BlibKansan Jun 2012 #66
It represents evil revolution breeze Jun 2012 #70
And then you have less money for public schools and then the GOP got just what they wanted. And.... Logical Jun 2012 #16
Cool ... more creationist kids with no real science background!!! JoePhilly Jun 2012 #17
Not all religious schools teach creationism SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2012 #19
And I graduated from a Jesuit University. By choice. JoePhilly Jun 2012 #40
Yes, both schools required that all students take religion classes and attend the weekly school Mass SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2012 #42
If the area where you live has private schools of only one JoePhilly Jun 2012 #46
+1 proud2BlibKansan Jun 2012 #48
I'm not seeing where the supposed tax break comes in, but maybe I'm missing something SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2012 #52
The voucher is basically a tax refund. JoePhilly Jun 2012 #56
Never mind the failing school, .... just take more money away from it to solve the problem L. Coyote Jun 2012 #21
Right, because private schools ... surrealAmerican Jun 2012 #32
Exactly the point I was going to make Catherina Jun 2012 #62
Because we all know tenure is the problem. proud2BlibKansan Jun 2012 #39
Another thread full of Democrats cheering for the unity of church & state. HiPointDem Jun 2012 #10
Why do you believe they are Democrats? siligut Jun 2012 #22
Who is cheering for the unity of church and state? SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2012 #24
No unity of church and state revolution breeze Jun 2012 #25
I posted this story a few days ago and it also attracted cali Jun 2012 #26
I have a serious question SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2012 #29
no offense taken. you're right of course, but the thing is cali Jun 2012 #30
Fair enough SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2012 #31
Not posting right wing rhetoric revolution breeze Jun 2012 #36
Is your religion, and that of the school, the same? JoePhilly Jun 2012 #41
This parent is choosing the school, so obviously the religious aspect doesn't bother her SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2012 #43
Then the parent can respond to that point. JoePhilly Jun 2012 #44
Is someone stopping her? n/t SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2012 #45
We could give her a minute. JoePhilly Jun 2012 #47
And my tax dollars would be supporting that, and it's NOT ok with me. MH1 Jun 2012 #51
You should also receive a tax credit revolution breeze Jun 2012 #72
I'll take you one step further MattBaggins Jun 2012 #74
Public school facilities are funded by taxpayers SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2012 #79
No not everyone should be able to use them MattBaggins Jun 2012 #80
Actually, no, religious schools don't have to open up their facilities to the public SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2012 #84
And I was against the Iraq war ... and my tax dollars paid for it. JoePhilly Jun 2012 #92
I don't and never did expect a subsidy for it SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2012 #93
If you support vouchers that can be used for private religious schools ... JoePhilly Jun 2012 #94
You might want to climb off your high horse and read my posts SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2012 #95
I was raised Jewish, sorta revolution breeze Jun 2012 #60
Do you support pedophilia? If not, why would you even consider sending your child to a MH1 Jun 2012 #50
Based on what she posted above SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2012 #53
So there are no good public schools? JoePhilly Jun 2012 #57
The poster said that she couldn't use the voucher for a better public school SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2012 #58
Understand ... JoePhilly Jun 2012 #64
Perhaps some or even many are more expensive but not all SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2012 #67
Do you understand why the per pupil cost is lower at private schools? proud2BlibKansan Jun 2012 #89
No she will not. revolution breeze Jun 2012 #61
Just a note revolution breeze Jun 2012 #63
We liked that as well SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2012 #68
It isn't low post counts alone that matters MattBaggins Jun 2012 #73
I've read this entire thread and as of this post only ONE post qualifies for your generalization. joshcryer Jun 2012 #54
Giving money to churches and the people who run them is easy. Fixing a school system is hard Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #49
I moved back here in 2006. revolution breeze Jun 2012 #71
I salute your effort. It must seem impossible at times, from what I've been told by my friends. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #87
Freebies to Store-front-Jesus-Schools.. That was the plan all along SoCalDem Jun 2012 #96
No, vouchers are not the answer SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2012 #97
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