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Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts) Thu Apr 14, 2016, 02:51 PM Apr 2016

People Still Don't Get the Link between Meat Consumption and Climate Change [View all]

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/people-still-don-t-get-the-link-between-meat-consumption-and-climate-change/

I think a really important point is that people don't have to give up eating meat, just cut down on their consumption! Restaurants are a huge part of the problem IMO, so many restaurants have totally meat-oriented menus. It's really annoying.

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People Still Don't Get the Link between Meat Consumption and Climate Change [View all] Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 OP

People Still Don't Get the Link between Population and Climate Change Gregorian Apr 2016 #1

Ding, ding, ding. We have the winner! FLPanhandle Apr 2016 #24

The scientists can't get on tv! They simply cannot get out the word. Gregorian Apr 2016 #49

Well, for millennia, that meat wasn't raised as an "industrial product," nor as much of it consumed villager Apr 2016 #54

If you have a human population of less than one billion, that doesn't matter FLPanhandle Apr 2016 #60

Sure, let's ignore everything else until a 70% die-off! Steaks and SUVs all around! villager Apr 2016 #65

Strawman FLPanhandle Apr 2016 #67

Actually, the extent of yours seems to be: "What can I say to get myself off the hook?" villager Apr 2016 #75

Hrmmm anigbrowl Apr 2016 #87

How much of what they consume is irrelevant? The nature of economic exploitation RadiationTherapy Apr 2016 #57

Many here are desperate to absolve themselves of any personal responsibility. villager Apr 2016 #76

yup, this is the real problem.... mike_c Apr 2016 #58

Restaurant offerings are part of the problem considering how many people eat out in the USA Person 2713 Apr 2016 #2

People still don't get the link between chemical GMO industrial agriculture and climate change AxionExcel Apr 2016 #3

I'm not familiar with that myself Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #6

The link is at least two-fold AxionExcel Apr 2016 #11

Just a reminder yewberry Apr 2016 #16

ok, thanks-- I'll check it out Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #22

GMOs may help with climate change HassleCat Apr 2016 #53

"chemical free food" Major Nikon Apr 2016 #72

You really are a one trick pony and yor posts make no sense. N/t Humanist_Activist Apr 2016 #86

Domestic livestock agriculture is killing the biosphere. tabasco Apr 2016 #4

It doesn't wash with me TexasProgresive Apr 2016 #5

The process is natural but the extent is not Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #9

Is there more vegetation tonnage on the earth or less? TexasProgresive Apr 2016 #10

Considering how much land we've converted to fields, fueled with synthetic fertilizer NickB79 Apr 2016 #12

My premise is that it doesn't matter over the long run TexasProgresive Apr 2016 #14

the main problem is the methane produced by the massive numbers of livestock Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #21

It's those darned cow-farts...and they don't eat meat. nt clarice Apr 2016 #7

but the catch is - they're raised for people who do LiberalElite Apr 2016 #15

exactly. Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #18

Also for milk? nt clarice Apr 2016 #34

it also just takes a lot more energy to create meat than non-meat CreekDog Apr 2016 #66

People Still Don't Get the Link between Having Babies and Climate Change Major Nikon Apr 2016 #8

Nailed it. nt NickB79 Apr 2016 #13

there are lots of things that can be addressed, but eating less meat is a simple and easy way to Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #19

+1 FLPanhandle Apr 2016 #25

Yup. Agschmid Apr 2016 #33

Depressing thread. yewberry Apr 2016 #17

Most people refuse to make a personal sacrifice for the planet. milestogo Apr 2016 #20

doing smaller portions of meat is easier than giving it up completely eShirl Apr 2016 #23

The biggest thing people can do to save the planet is to not have children FLPanhandle Apr 2016 #26

This is actually what caused my stint in vegetarianism, which kicked my arse hereforthevoting Apr 2016 #27

Some information (visual) to help 2naSalit Apr 2016 #28

Here is a better visual of the real problem FLPanhandle Apr 2016 #29

Good one! 2naSalit Apr 2016 #30

Are you arguing people don't have a right to reproduce? Marengo Apr 2016 #35

They may have a right to 2naSalit Apr 2016 #36

there are also horrible religious moements who think they need to over-produce babies Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #40

And there's that too! ....nt 2naSalit Apr 2016 #41

"The right of the people to keep and bear children shall not be infringed." GliderGuider Apr 2016 #44

You regard children as weapons? Marengo Apr 2016 #74

In a sardonic sense, yes. GliderGuider Apr 2016 #80

Interesting and thought provoking response. Marengo Apr 2016 #89

Understood, and I would suggest an edit to that post... Marengo Apr 2016 #45

there are underlying 2naSalit Apr 2016 #47

People who reproduce are deliberately and consciously infringing on you rights? Marengo Apr 2016 #48

How about 2naSalit Apr 2016 #61

Careless is quite a bit different from "on purpose" Marengo Apr 2016 #73

Mix it up however you want. 2naSalit Apr 2016 #78

Ask the "quiver-full" folks... n/t fullautohotdog Apr 2016 #79

I've never heard of it being a "right" PasadenaTrudy Apr 2016 #50

I've heard it being touted 2naSalit Apr 2016 #62

Exactly PasadenaTrudy Apr 2016 #85

'Rights' are determined by our collective priorities. ronnie624 Apr 2016 #38

The post I responded to seemed to be suggesting the right didn't exist in the present... Marengo Apr 2016 #43

The legal right exists, ronnie624 Apr 2016 #64

+1 n/t PasadenaTrudy Apr 2016 #51

Most people don't want to know danimich1 Apr 2016 #31

Meat, energy, people GliderGuider Apr 2016 #32

+1 ....nt 2naSalit Apr 2016 #37

I don't know about your numbers-- it's a tricky calculation-- but I agree with your basic conclusion Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #39

My numbers are based on a series of assumptions GliderGuider Apr 2016 #42

I cut down on my meat consumption to help the planet. DookDook Apr 2016 #46

that's awesome! Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #56

Carnivores are patriotic! HassleCat Apr 2016 #52

our whole system of food production simply sucks SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2016 #55

Not all of us can eat VTP or tofu Aerows Apr 2016 #59

People don't get the link between vegetarianism and... lame54 Apr 2016 #63

Nice attitude. yewberry Apr 2016 #68

People don't get that THEY are the reason for climate change. So Far From Heaven Apr 2016 #69

Read the article. No cause and effect explanation whatsoever bhikkhu Apr 2016 #70

they didn't explain the connection but they did link to this piece Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #81

In much of the west, pasture is fairly natural bhikkhu Apr 2016 #82

the problem is massive factory animal farming, not just some cows grazing on natural land Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #83

Not really... 2naSalit Apr 2016 #88

I switched to an almost-completely plant-based diet three years ago athena Apr 2016 #71

Conversely, I switched to an almost-completely meat-based diet three years ago GliderGuider Apr 2016 #84

Restaurants create their menu based on consumer demand. ohnoyoudidnt Apr 2016 #77