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Erose999

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28. The DLC types will see this not as their own failure, but as an impetus to move farther to the right

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 08:45 AM

Jun 2012

So there will probably be more support for conservadems, union busting, austerity policies, and the Bush cuts.

I wonder how badly we'll have to lose before we get rid of the turd way crowd and get back to our core values?

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Debbie Wasserman Schulz needs to go. [View all] DonCoquixote Jun 2012 OP

no bigtree Jun 2012 #1

Yes... joeybee12 Jun 2012 #2

Maybe. nt Javaman Jun 2012 #34

Maybe not. Jamaal510 Jun 2012 #142

Did too. nt Javaman Jun 2012 #165

The facts bear me out DonCoquixote Jun 2012 #3

If you think pulling our DNC chair right now is a good thing bigtree Jun 2012 #6

At least November won't be the LGBT community's fault Creideiki Jun 2012 #11

It's not November yet DonCoquixote Jun 2012 #19

do what you want bigtree Jun 2012 #22

Agreed Champion Jack Jun 2012 #25

Let's see. Wasserman, a Florida congresswoman, vs Howard Dean, a governor... Woody Woodpecker Jun 2012 #42

Howard Dean would tell you you're out of your mind bigtree Jun 2012 #97

Well at first I thought she was going to do very well. She does have a knife for a tongue and southernyankeebelle Jun 2012 #108

This is not a bandwagon topic, it's a strategy topic.. dadchef Jun 2012 #127

I didn't know I was on a bandwagon. I was just giving my own opinion. However, southernyankeebelle Jun 2012 #138

Agreed that it'd be counterproductive nt duhneece Jun 2012 #139

"make the party look weak and indecisive"? tblue Jun 2012 #159

Debbie Disaster has no idea how to fight. Fuddnik Jun 2012 #18

Even worse... HooptieWagon Jun 2012 #84

+1000 nt Mojorabbit Jun 2012 #104

Strange. I always thought she was a progressive. n/t davidwparker Jun 2012 #115

No, she wouldn't support any Dems in Florida. Fuddnik Jun 2012 #121

Ah, didn't know. thanks. n/t davidwparker Jun 2012 #167

As progressive as Harold Ford, Jr.? AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #144

That bad? Now I see why she is DNC chair. At the time, I thought ... progress ... a progressive davidwparker Jun 2012 #166

Here. Here. 12AngryBorneoWildmen Jun 2012 #55

+1 nt MADem Jun 2012 #45

Are you thinking what I'm thinking? Capt. Obvious Jun 2012 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author bigtree Jun 2012 #92

So no DWS picture thread? Capt. Obvious Jun 2012 #94

This message was self-deleted by its author bigtree Jun 2012 #95

Don't you have an article to add fabricated quotes to? Son of Gob Jun 2012 #153

At the risk of setting off the mob again, here you go Capt. Obvious Jun 2012 #164

yes nt Mojorabbit Jun 2012 #103

Your reasoning is impeccable texshelters Jun 2012 #152

Let's get Howard Dean back where we need him. Scuba Jun 2012 #4

+ 10000000 We are in desperate need of brilliance and savvy ! nt Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2012 #13

It's tragic to see what he built squandered Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #16

+1 harun Jun 2012 #23

Tim Kaine's another one. Chan790 Jun 2012 #66

Yeah, the party must owe Kaine a couple of favors Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #72

Second the Motion!!! Swamp Lover Jun 2012 #26

I actually agree with this Xyzse Jun 2012 #79

Establishment Dems don't care about building a message. pa28 Jun 2012 #111

"yeeeeeeehaaaaww" progressoid Jun 2012 #5

Was that sarcasm? DonCoquixote Jun 2012 #9

Nope, bring him back! progressoid Jun 2012 #12

There was a time Bohunk68 Jun 2012 #7

Nah, she's always been that way Confusious Jun 2012 #162

Okay and who would we elect to replace her in her district? Zalatix Jun 2012 #8

I am not talking about South Florida DonCoquixote Jun 2012 #10

why not Edwards. He is more bonniebgood Jun 2012 #27

LOL dionysus Jun 2012 #37

Fine with me. And she can take Bill Clinton with her. He is becoming a liability. NC_Nurse Jun 2012 #14

Clinton a liability? 3030trigger Jun 2012 #29

Lately he keeps contradicting Obama. First, on Mitt's Bain record and then on extending the Bush tax NC_Nurse Jun 2012 #43

+1000 abelenkpe Jun 2012 #48

They probably both agree with the upcoming wage-lowering, anti-union "free-trade" agreement. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #146

He's been saying stupid shit praising Bain, and then he did it again Woody Woodpecker Jun 2012 #44

He's not. Chan790 Jun 2012 #74

Good explanation. Metatron Jun 2012 #128

Welcome to DU, 3030trigger. Skinner Jun 2012 #76

Oh, wow! I didn't even notice that this was your first post! Welcome! NC_Nurse Jun 2012 #96

She seems pretty great to me. She said the WI recall has nothing to do with Prez election... Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #15

She used the term "dry run" DonCoquixote Jun 2012 #20

That is the total opposite of what I heard her say. Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #136

State and federal may be two different things in reality tularetom Jun 2012 #40

IMO, she (and all Americans) dotymed Jun 2012 #50

I can see your point but being embarassed aintitfunny Jun 2012 #17

Noted DonCoquixote Jun 2012 #21

DLC weakness The Wizard Jun 2012 #24

The DLC types will see this not as their own failure, but as an impetus to move farther to the right Erose999 Jun 2012 #28

That's the way it always is. Pab Sungenis Jun 2012 #35

Yes it is like a self fulfilling prophecy Harmony Blue Jun 2012 #58

Yes. In fact, they are working on another wage-lowering, anti-union, "free-trade agreement. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #145

I was with you until you mentioned Dean pennylane100 Jun 2012 #30

No disagreements here. Get Howard back ASAP PFunk Jun 2012 #31

I would not be suprised of DLCers like her secretly support Walker. Odin2005 Jun 2012 #32

Bring Howard Dean back! ananda Jun 2012 #33

Amen proud2BlibKansan Jun 2012 #36

Couldn't agree more. Was Tim Kaine not centrist enough? We need a Doctor in the house... truebrit71 Jun 2012 #38

Always have to find a goat, eh? frazzled Jun 2012 #39

I would back Dr. Dean in a heartbeat to return to his chairmanship, and shape policy from there. Woody Woodpecker Jun 2012 #41

The problem is that critical thinking has been attacked Harmony Blue Jun 2012 #47

You do realize that Howard Dean's "scream" was manufactured, right? Zoeisright Jun 2012 #46

Dean should have just ran with it and made it part of his routine. Erose999 Jun 2012 #116

Deans method worked abelenkpe Jun 2012 #49

Mark Brewer in michigan too.. butterfly77 Jun 2012 #51

Has anyone heard this interview she did in LA? alp227 Jun 2012 #52

She's not robotic. She's just not much of a Democrat. BlueCaliDem Jun 2012 #70

+1000 HooptieWagon Jun 2012 #86

Your guess is as good as mine. BlueCaliDem Jun 2012 #93

How many of us miss madfloridian? I do. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #148

Utterly predictable given last night's results in Wisconsin Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2012 #53

Wasserman Schulz is a New Dem (read right-leaning Democrat) Samantha Jun 2012 #54

Republicans dominate the state of Florida Harmony Blue Jun 2012 #62

Wrong. Dems outnumber Rs by 500000 in Floida. HooptieWagon Jun 2012 #88

It doesn't change the fact Republicans dominate Harmony Blue Jun 2012 #113

There's more money to be had being a right wing Democrat than an FDR Democrat. Selatius Jun 2012 #163

Truer words were never spoke. They explain everything. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #168

I agree, especially DonCoquixote Jun 2012 #151

DLC dems win by loosing. If they wanted a winner in charge we would still have Howard Dean. Exultant Democracy Jun 2012 #57

So....I guess there is no room unreadierLizard Jun 2012 #59

Well, after being told that there's no room for leftists in the Party for so many years Pab Sungenis Jun 2012 #60

I'm just saying that unreadierLizard Jun 2012 #61

But that's my point. Pab Sungenis Jun 2012 #64

There needs to be more cohesion unreadierLizard Jun 2012 #65

There is no cohesion Pab Sungenis Jun 2012 #69

Progressive Congressional Caucus outnumbers New Dems 2:1. HooptieWagon Jun 2012 #90

Because we put them there Pab Sungenis Jun 2012 #101

$ quakerboy Jun 2012 #106

Yes, and as long as DLC Dems keep chasing Wall Street money OrwellwasRight Jun 2012 #154

meanwhile the GOP has the extreme right wing and even more extreme wing Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #131

that'll show everyone! bigtree Jun 2012 #99

Again, the shallowness of your arguments is on display. Pab Sungenis Jun 2012 #100

This message was self-deleted by its author bigtree Jun 2012 #110

First, if you want respect, learn to spell my name correctly. Pab Sungenis Jun 2012 #120

This message was self-deleted by its author bigtree Jun 2012 #140

Watch your accusations. Pab Sungenis Jun 2012 #141

This message was self-deleted by its author bigtree Jun 2012 #147

I repeat: what have you done to elect Democrats? Pab Sungenis Jun 2012 #157

This message was self-deleted by its author bigtree Jun 2012 #158

don't take it personally, Pat... it's an unfortunate MO for the poster in question inna Jun 2012 #161

now see here bigtree Jun 2012 #169

i'm not trying to stir up anything, let alone shit - and i do find your comments offensive inna Jun 2012 #174

good bigtree Jun 2012 #175

Strawman alert... blackspade Jun 2012 #156

Centrism has failed Harmony Blue Jun 2012 #67

I disagree in part unreadierLizard Jun 2012 #68

Centrism is an illusion Harmony Blue Jun 2012 #80

Yes! You dont begin your negotiation from the middle. HooptieWagon Jun 2012 #91

What we have now isn't even centrism. woo me with science Jun 2012 #172

Where is this "hard Left" of which you speak? bvar22 Jun 2012 #75

The paradigm has shifted Harmony Blue Jun 2012 #83

word frylock Jun 2012 #107

Amen to that, bvar22! hifiguy Jun 2012 #112

If there is a "hard left" in the Democratic party, I've yet to see it peace frog Jun 2012 #114

Thank you. nt woo me with science Jun 2012 #173

Define "hard left", please. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #122

I totally agree. I can understand why President Obama didn't get involved BUT the DNC knew jillan Jun 2012 #63

Every Dem Party state leader who doesn't have recent big wins under their belts shcrane71 Jun 2012 #71

70% were against even the concept of a recall jeff47 Jun 2012 #73

Where's you're link proving that 70%? shcrane71 Jun 2012 #77

It was said on MSNBC jeff47 Jun 2012 #109

Yes Dean needs to come back. craigmatic Jun 2012 #78

When I heard DWS drives an Infiniti I puked in my mouth a little. Out of touch AND anti-union? Romulox Jun 2012 #81

-1 nt Life Long Dem Jun 2012 #82

Well said! LibGranny Jun 2012 #85

when they appointed her i said she was a DLC turd SwampG8r Jun 2012 #87

Living in Florida we have always known Harmony Blue Jun 2012 #89

I knew she was bad ever since she fought against Bush impeachment way back when... cascadiance Jun 2012 #98

I don't luv DWS but.. flamingdem Jun 2012 #102

Assigning responsibility for FAILURE is the first step toward success. bvar22 Jun 2012 #123

Yes. MrSlayer Jun 2012 #133

This message was self-deleted by its author Herlong Jun 2012 #171

She new the recall cause was hopeless from the start. iandhr Jun 2012 #105

I like her, but her devotion to Israel bothers me. FreeBC Jun 2012 #117

Agreed. nt NorthCarolina Jun 2012 #118

She's just a symptom is the Dem party establishment pstokely Jun 2012 #119

Be like FDR and HST JackHughes Jun 2012 #124

100+% - I am with you on that mazzarro Jun 2012 #125

Oh it gets much worse in Fl. HooptieWagon Jun 2012 #126

Here in Florida she's been undermining the President on Cuba policy Daniel537 Jun 2012 #129

David Bender Nailed It colsohlibgal Jun 2012 #130

We need hard, pipe hitting progressives 47of74 Jun 2012 #132

Agreed, she's awful. MrSlayer Jun 2012 #134

well if you found howard deans pep rally embarassing then we got a problem PatrynXX Jun 2012 #135

a pep rally DonCoquixote Jun 2012 #149

Sorry, but... LuckyTheDog Jun 2012 #137

Yes, she does need to go. We need someone who wants to win in November and who will go all out sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #143

Government 101: The Party Chairman is a powerless figurehead when the party controls the White House Hippo_Tron Jun 2012 #150

NOt Debbie DonCoquixote Jun 2012 #155

Again, she's a figurehead Hippo_Tron Jun 2012 #170

Debbie Wasserman Schulz needs to go. Andrew67 Jun 2012 #160

She is a symptom. woo me with science Jun 2012 #176