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In reply to the discussion: It took vandals one day to deface SF's new $3.5 million parks [View all]aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)96. I spent over an hour trying to find a working phone last week
until I finally found one. I live in southern California. I tried at least half a dozen and either the phone receiver was broken, the line was cut, or part of the mechanism didn't work. And the area around the phone was filthy with graffiti or trash or feces. And its been this way for years and years in some parts of the city. What a contrast with Europe when I lived there and you could find working pay phones that accept phone cards everywhere.
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Maybe folks some spend less time discussing how to ban happy meals and pet stores
snooper2
Jun 2012
#6
I worked at a downtown institution that is open to the public. Toilets purposely clogged
Liberal_in_LA
Jun 2012
#12
I hate it when you can't find a working pay phone for miles in parts of the city
aint_no_life_nowhere
Jun 2012
#21
I lived in NY in the early 80's and they did this with the subway cars. There were some really
Egalitarian Thug
Jun 2012
#22
Let me assure you that it was always illegal to paint subway cars in NYC
alcibiades_mystery
Jun 2012
#28
You're right, apparently it was an informal arrangement(?) and the best artists got together and
Egalitarian Thug
Jun 2012
#163
This what the authoritarians never get. The more you escalate, the less you accomplish.
Egalitarian Thug
Jun 2012
#40
It's authoritarian to have the rule of law and not allow defacing of others property?
jpbollma
Jun 2012
#49
I think you miss the point. The methods of restriction, enforcement, & penalties we use don't work.
Egalitarian Thug
Jun 2012
#53
Yeah, you did. First, I have lived in graffiti covered buildings and never did it effect
Egalitarian Thug
Jun 2012
#66
No way in hell I'd call the cops. A mere $400 in "damage" could get a kid
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#69
"People from the suburbs who come into a city to shop and do business get scared by this stuff"
girl gone mad
Jun 2012
#73
I'm a iconoclast...I do things precisely because they will be met with public disapproval.
Chan790
Jun 2012
#97
Grafitti is one thing, but purposefully BREAKING public facilities is something else.
mainer
Jun 2012
#164
Whenever they catch people who do this they ought to A) have to fix whatever they damaged
4th law of robotics
Jun 2012
#11
Yes. I realize that art is more than painting & sculpture. Thanks for trying, though.
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#158
Sadly, there are plenty of "progressives" that support these vandal "artists".
Odin2005
Jun 2012
#15
Yep- "most notably with the removal of six of the 14 metal keys from the popular xylophone."
Heywood J
Jun 2012
#151
I reject the idea that we just let these human scum have the run of our cities.
jpbollma
Jun 2012
#24
No need to hire people. Just give them the freedom to create and they will do so organically.
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#33
Advertising is about smearing your name all over town. Graffiti can be and often is
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#101
FYI, the graffiti in the picture is in a skate park built in 2008. NOT Dolores Park.
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#23
Ridiculous. If the owner of that building or the city wanted that art they would ask for art
jpbollma
Jun 2012
#26
Industry abandoning our cities and our country is what has killed our urban cores.
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#102
Check out this near the skatepark (I'm not sure if it is still there...)
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#108
People need art and self-expression that isn't assessed and compressed
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#132
What "process" were they shut out of that they think it okay to deface public property?
cherokeeprogressive
Jun 2012
#138
So there is no art without money? And without that money, I can paint whatever the hell I want on
cherokeeprogressive
Jun 2012
#154
Oh give me a break. First of all, the picture in the OP is not the kids park that was recently
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#129
sadly, too many people don't know the difference between tagging and graffiti..
frylock
Jun 2012
#125
A real vandal would have used optical illusions to mess up the people using those ramps.
jp11
Jun 2012
#99
Yes. The skate board park is crappy tags (but not gang tags). Ever since the city
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#107
Thanks did not know that. I saw a lack of any real graffiti art and figured crappy
jp11
Jun 2012
#153
Its a crying shame. When I lived there many years ago, that was one of the most
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#136
What do folks think about 'reverse' or 'green graffiti' or projection graffiti?
Earth_First
Jun 2012
#130
A lovely reverse graffiti project in the Broadway tunnel in San Francisco
Luminous Animal
Jun 2012
#134
how is it that it is assumed that the vandals who damaged the playground are also responsible...
Earth_First
Jun 2012
#142
I see a lot of 'mindless vandalism" in the city also. I suppose a psychologist would
Liberal_in_LA
Jun 2012
#174