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Bennyboy

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41. Too awesome.

Reply to Erose999 (Reply #25)

Mon Jun 4, 2012, 02:47 PM

Jun 2012

Fuck em.

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It took vandals one day to deface SF's new $3.5 million parks [View all] Liberal_in_LA Jun 2012 OP

It is sad, but I think it is ridiculous that they are surprised. YellowRubberDuckie Jun 2012 #1

Best wishes to the folks in addressing & repairing the damage RT Atlanta Jun 2012 #2

The meaning of Dolores is "sorrows" Kolesar Jun 2012 #3

This makes me so sad Tumbulu Jun 2012 #4

Maybe they should issue concealed paint gun licenses JoethePleb Jun 2012 #5

Maybe folks some spend less time discussing how to ban happy meals and pet stores snooper2 Jun 2012 #6

Instead of spending thousands of dollars each year on clean up. tabatha Jun 2012 #10

Until you hear from the "surveillance cameras are EEEEVILLLL" bunch here jberryhill Jun 2012 #17

Much better would be very good lighting and exposed cameras in plain view lunatica Jun 2012 #32

Cameras were the fist thing that popped into my mind too... Skip Intro Jun 2012 #95

I work in parks and recreation... ellisonz Jun 2012 #7

I worked at a downtown institution that is open to the public. Toilets purposely clogged Liberal_in_LA Jun 2012 #12

Yeah I mean if it's not thoroughly locked up or bolted to the ground... ellisonz Jun 2012 #18

I hate it when you can't find a working pay phone for miles in parts of the city aint_no_life_nowhere Jun 2012 #21

It's not a matter of repair... Chan790 Jun 2012 #79

I spent over an hour trying to find a working phone last week aint_no_life_nowhere Jun 2012 #96

Super simple solution: Let the "vandals" paint the entire skate park TalkingDog Jun 2012 #8

+100! n/t librechik Jun 2012 #13

.... DeSwiss Jun 2012 #14

Yep. Bennyboy Jun 2012 #16

I lived in NY in the early 80's and they did this with the subway cars. There were some really Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #22

Let me assure you that it was always illegal to paint subway cars in NYC alcibiades_mystery Jun 2012 #28

I'm sure it was all in my imagination... Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #34

You surely imagined the legality alcibiades_mystery Jun 2012 #38

Have you never seen Warriors?! FarLeftFist Jun 2012 #76

You're right, apparently it was an informal arrangement(?) and the best artists got together and Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #163

The harsher the clampdown the uglier the graffiti... Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #31

This what the authoritarians never get. The more you escalate, the less you accomplish. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #40

It's authoritarian to have the rule of law and not allow defacing of others property? jpbollma Jun 2012 #49

I think you miss the point. The methods of restriction, enforcement, & penalties we use don't work. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #53

I don't believe I missed the point. jpbollma Jun 2012 #60

Yeah, you did. First, I have lived in graffiti covered buildings and never did it effect Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #66

When I lived in NYC, we PAID someone to do that to the side of our building. Chan790 Jun 2012 #83

No way in hell I'd call the cops. A mere $400 in "damage" could get a kid Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #69

I guess I just don't get it. jpbollma Jun 2012 #70

"People from the suburbs who come into a city to shop and do business get scared by this stuff" girl gone mad Jun 2012 #73

Girl Gone Mad jpbollma Jun 2012 #81

I grew up in Oakland XemaSab Jun 2012 #156

TalkingDog..there is plenty wrong with graffiti jpbollma Jun 2012 #39

Actually... it IS their property Scootaloo Jun 2012 #51

Well it's also ugly as shit. Marr Jun 2012 #52

So is bare concrete Scootaloo Jun 2012 #57

It's a little more like 'shit is thematic to a parade'. Marr Jun 2012 #58

So cork the horses? Scootaloo Jun 2012 #64

Generally there's a man cleaning it up at the end of the parade. Marr Jun 2012 #72

Bare grey molded concrete sounds so appealing Scootaloo Jun 2012 #80

Do you have any graffiti on your house? Marr Jun 2012 #82

Yup! Chan790 Jun 2012 #88

Is my house a skate park designated public property? Scootaloo Jun 2012 #160

I must be missing something in this discussion jpbollma Jun 2012 #59

Hmmm, good question! Scootaloo Jun 2012 #62

I think I was being too general in my attack on graffiti jpbollma Jun 2012 #71

The people with the krylon paid for it too, though Scootaloo Jun 2012 #77

But picking what public area is off limits is subjective jpbollma Jun 2012 #84

Tagging an art gallery is an inherently-politic act... Chan790 Jun 2012 #90

Please, pay attention here Scootaloo Jun 2012 #159

In the article it said that people have burned down structures XemaSab Jun 2012 #155

LOL....brilliant logic. Maybe I can spray paint Air Force One since I own it! Logical Jun 2012 #87

Exhibit A dont hassle the hoff Jun 2012 #165

Do try to keep up Scootaloo Jun 2012 #175

If you were any good, I might pay you for it even. n/t Chan790 Jun 2012 #85

Chan790 Until you come up with the money jpbollma Jun 2012 #92

I'm a iconoclast...I do things precisely because they will be met with public disapproval. Chan790 Jun 2012 #97

so... jpbollma Jun 2012 #106

Sure, you can look at it that way. Chan790 Jun 2012 #113

Back in the day, we used to call that kind of thing "anti-social". Heywood J Jun 2012 #150

This exactly. Thank you. wickerwoman Jun 2012 #176

This message was self-deleted by its author wickerwoman Jun 2012 #177

This message was self-deleted by its author closeupready Jun 2012 #43

Here's the thing: in isolation, some of these are lovely, but closeupready Jun 2012 #48

yep. the artists are the shock troops of the gentrifiers. HiPointDem Jun 2012 #50

as long as they use art ... and not name tags.. I say go for it proud patriot Jun 2012 #126

Good. Tell me your address. dont hassle the hoff Jun 2012 #166

aren't you sweet proud patriot Jun 2012 #179

Grafitti is one thing, but purposefully BREAKING public facilities is something else. mainer Jun 2012 #164

most likely the "vandals" are known in the neighborhood. nt msongs Jun 2012 #9

Whenever they catch people who do this they ought to A) have to fix whatever they damaged 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #11

Absolutely. People have no respect. jpbollma Jun 2012 #36

Actually the only thing I find disgusting... Chan790 Jun 2012 #91

Silly. Art is for galleries & museums and worthless unless curated. Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #116

Art includes a hell of a lot more than painting and sculpture Occulus Jun 2012 #157

Yes. I realize that art is more than painting & sculpture. Thanks for trying, though. Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #158

forgive me Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2012 #169

Sadly, there are plenty of "progressives" that support these vandal "artists". Odin2005 Jun 2012 #15

OBEY ellisonz Jun 2012 #19

+1 Chan790 Jun 2012 #94

Yep- "most notably with the removal of six of the 14 metal keys from the popular xylophone." Heywood J Jun 2012 #151

Things don't have to be ugly. Bennyboy Jun 2012 #20

I reject the idea that we just let these human scum have the run of our cities. jpbollma Jun 2012 #24

No need to hire people. Just give them the freedom to create and they will do so organically. Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #33

The "freedom to create" costs about 99 cents. Marr Jun 2012 #54

Tell that to Banksy, Shepard Fairey, David Choe, etc. girl gone mad Jun 2012 #78

Well, the art world doesn't own the buildings, so Marr Jun 2012 #131

Advertising is about smearing your name all over town. Graffiti can be and often is Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #101

Graffiti *can be*, but it very rarely is. Marr Jun 2012 #133

When you criminalize artists, the taggers take over. Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #140

I have no problem with street art as long as they get permission, or... Odin2005 Jun 2012 #143

Graffiti San Francisco: Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author jpbollma Jun 2012 #35

And what do you propose as a solution? n/t Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #56

FYI, the graffiti in the picture is in a skate park built in 2008. NOT Dolores Park. Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #23

Don't piss off a graffitti artist.... Erose999 Jun 2012 #25

Ridiculous. If the owner of that building or the city wanted that art they would ask for art jpbollma Jun 2012 #26

it has art on it.. frylock Jun 2012 #65

This comment cracks me up everytime I scroll by it! Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #141

Too awesome. Bennyboy Jun 2012 #41

Hahahaha!!! Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #47

This is why we can't have nice things. AngryAmish Jun 2012 #27

Exactly. This type of thing is what has killed many of our urban cores. jpbollma Jun 2012 #29

Animals alarimer Jun 2012 #75

Industry abandoning our cities and our country is what has killed our urban cores. Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #102

Yes, that is the single biggest thing that killed our urban cores jpbollma Jun 2012 #118

This'll look nice when it's framed... Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #46

This looks like a Bansky, I like it crunch60 Jun 2012 #55

A slum is defined by its residents; not its architecture FarCenter Jun 2012 #37

yes, and its residents also destroy all of the local architecture. jpbollma Jun 2012 #44

Hey, it's ART! closeupready Jun 2012 #42

This wouldn't have been a problem if we followed Singapore's lead. badtoworse Jun 2012 #45

Now here's some street art....Poland.... Bennyboy Jun 2012 #61

BANKSY welcomes the Queen on her 75th..... Bennyboy Jun 2012 #63

More Banksy Bennyboy Jun 2012 #67

My favorite BANKSY work.... Bennyboy Jun 2012 #68

These are all great jpbollma Jun 2012 #74

THEIR park too (this post won't be popular, but WTH) librechik Jun 2012 #86

Lame Post! So I should be able to spray paint any Bridge in town also? Logical Jun 2012 #89

A bridge is not a skateboard park. librechik Jun 2012 #100

It's the Return of the Repressed. EFerrari Jun 2012 #103

+1 n/t librechik Jun 2012 #105

Check out this near the skatepark (I'm not sure if it is still there...) Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #108

But, was it authorized?! EFerrari Jun 2012 #112

why should I pay money for someone to have a canvass? jpbollma Jun 2012 #120

Why should I pay money for you to have your road paved? EFerrari Jun 2012 #121

Actually paved roads are something society as a whole needs jpbollma Jun 2012 #128

People need art and self-expression that isn't assessed and compressed Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #132

Whereas, society doesn't need the energies of young people to be directed EFerrari Jun 2012 #146

Paved roads for private automobiles was a stupid idea. hunter Jun 2012 #168

The second it does you'll see rural poverty back like it's 1930. Rittermeister Jun 2012 #178

Can't blame that on Baby Boomers. Iggo Jun 2012 #93

Marking turf is, to humans, what spraying urine is to cats SoCalDem Jun 2012 #98

If you take away the space for kids to make art, they will push back. EFerrari Jun 2012 #115

Some graffiti can be art, but most is spiteful defacement SoCalDem Jun 2012 #117

No. EFerrari Jun 2012 #119

What "process" were they shut out of that they think it okay to deface public property? cherokeeprogressive Jun 2012 #138

You mean, besides the part where our tax dollars are no longer spent on EFerrari Jun 2012 #145

So there is no art without money? And without that money, I can paint whatever the hell I want on cherokeeprogressive Jun 2012 #154

That you don't even see these people as part of the process speaks volumes. EFerrari Jun 2012 #162

Oh give me a break. First of all, the picture in the OP is not the kids park that was recently Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #129

seriously. so often people speak without context. NuttyFluffers Jun 2012 #161

sadly, too many people don't know the difference between tagging and graffiti.. frylock Jun 2012 #125

Kids shouldn't have the space for art taken away jpbollma Jun 2012 #135

Lmao. No, I certainly did not teach my children EFerrari Jun 2012 #144

Yes, Urine. cthulu2016 Jun 2012 #147

Apparently, you haven't spent enough time looking at "urine". n/t EFerrari Jun 2012 #148

A real vandal would have used optical illusions to mess up the people using those ramps. jp11 Jun 2012 #99

Yes. The skate board park is crappy tags (but not gang tags). Ever since the city Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #107

If there's no corporate logo sewn into the neckline, no one gets it. n/t EFerrari Jun 2012 #111

Thanks did not know that. I saw a lack of any real graffiti art and figured crappy jp11 Jun 2012 #153

billboards vandalize the countryside on highways that cost billions... Earth_First Jun 2012 #104

Uglier, in my opinion. Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #109

Yep. Earth_First Jun 2012 #114

but they pay for it and pay taxes jpbollma Jun 2012 #122

Talk about nuance. Why do you say these people don't pay taxes? EFerrari Jun 2012 #124

Who says these 'vandals' do not pay taxes...? Earth_First Jun 2012 #127

and there it is folks.. frylock Jun 2012 #152

Or certain housing developments aint_no_life_nowhere Jun 2012 #123

Its a crying shame. When I lived there many years ago, that was one of the most Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #136

And people hate it. Marr Jun 2012 #137

What scum. greytdemocrat Jun 2012 #110

What do folks think about 'reverse' or 'green graffiti' or projection graffiti? Earth_First Jun 2012 #130

A lovely reverse graffiti project in the Broadway tunnel in San Francisco Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #134

+1 Earth_First Jun 2012 #139

how is it that it is assumed that the vandals who damaged the playground are also responsible... Earth_First Jun 2012 #142

Is this Trumad's doing? Baitball Blogger Jun 2012 #149

This is sad but not surprising ... AsahinaKimi Jun 2012 #167

I wonder if someone built a Graffiti Shankapotomus Jun 2012 #170

It never ends. Sometimes I get tired. We've had our cars "tagged." hunter Jun 2012 #171

I see a lot of 'mindless vandalism" in the city also. I suppose a psychologist would Liberal_in_LA Jun 2012 #174

I don't know why people who are being given something nice caesars things Jun 2012 #172

the other point about 5 points in LIC, the taggers tag adjacent property closeupready Jun 2012 #173