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lunatica

(53,410 posts)
8. Yes. Bush and Cheney are surely doing so by just refusing to
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 10:32 AM
Jun 2012

admit any wrongdoing. The Supreme Court Justices are getting away with crimes against the Constitution because they just stay stubborn and never deviate from their agenda. Hell even Obama is breaking the law in some of the things he's doing, from refusing to hold Bush accountable to using drones. I believe this even though I support President Obama. Would he do this if President's before him hadn't been conveniently let off the hook?

Yes. They are beating any charges just by continuing to do what they do. I believe there's a very good chance Nixon would have beaten the charges. Or he could have continued to be President, all the time doing as much harm as he chose to do until they were forced to actually kick him out of office and that could have taken his entire last term.

But needless to say, this is just an opinion of mine since we'll never know. It could have gone the other way for all I know.

Not doing a great job of keeping them secret treestar Jun 2012 #1
You sure? rug Jun 2012 #2
What are you objecting to, exactly? treestar Jun 2012 #9
Yes they did. Do you recall who else they killed that day? rug Jun 2012 #29
Well it's better than Hiroshima treestar Jun 2012 #31
Can't say what I did in Vietnam SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #6
Vietnam was not a secret treestar Jun 2012 #10
Exactly SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #12
A whole lot more went on in and around Vietnam than few outside Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #34
If it was all a secret, then how come anyone knows? treestar Jun 2012 #39
Perhaps they will when they are old enough that spending the rest of their life in Kansas Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #47
It's not like you've really proven anything by your vague assertions treestar Jun 2012 #67
Lack of proof is rather the point isn't it? Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #69
I try for a happy medium treestar Jun 2012 #72
Attached? tabasco Jun 2012 #33
No. SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #51
You have no idea how many covert wars are being waged. Nor does COngress. morningfog Jun 2012 #63
I agree SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #66
How is it that you know treestar Jun 2012 #68
I only know that they deny it or refuse to comment until the evidence is too overwhelming. morningfog Jun 2012 #71
The last President that actually was held accountable was Nixon lunatica Jun 2012 #3
He could have "beaten the charges"? BlueIris Jun 2012 #5
Yes. Bush and Cheney are surely doing so by just refusing to lunatica Jun 2012 #8
I was just coming into political consciousness during that long, hot summer of 1974. My coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #15
So many revisionists ignore these facts when spinning their fantasies. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #35
Well argued and thought provoking. Vidar Jun 2012 #60
No way. Barry Goldwater himself delivered the news to Nixon that coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #14
and he got a full pardon for any actions he ever undertook, no matter how henious. L. Coyote Jun 2012 #54
Can you say SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #55
A dear friend says she will vote Ilsa Jun 2012 #4
Hope She Enjoys A Rmoney NeoCon Utopia... KharmaTrain Jun 2012 #7
So what you said to her was, "Both parties do it & there's nothing we can do about it." OK. HiPointDem Jun 2012 #43
What are you going to do? Who are you voting for? nt msanthrope Jun 2012 #58
They may have "reached the pinnacle" due to technology treestar Jun 2012 #11
Keeping the people in the dark about what their government does isn't democracy. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2012 #13
So true... Magoo48 Jun 2012 #18
Kinda makes ya wonder about what we don't know. SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #20
They can only wage such secret wars with the active connivance of coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #16
While I agree with you, SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #17
The feeling is mutual. Ultimately, blame must attach to the people themselves, who coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #21
Sent you a PM SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #26
There are "Balck Budgets" for which Congress writes a Check made out to "Cash". bvar22 Jun 2012 #38
You seem to believe that American voters are given a free choice in elections. bvar22 Jun 2012 #40
Shit, I guess all those hours I spent walking precincts for Jesse Jackson ('84), coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #49
Go study the Arkansas Democratic Primary 2010, and get back to me. bvar22 Jun 2012 #52
Can you please point me to a link that would fill me in on the Blanche Lincoln coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #59
My goal today is the same as it was 46 years ago... bvar22 Jun 2012 #61
I understand your frustration and alienation. I remember feeling exactly the same way coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #62
Interesting argument. Talking about secret wars that no one knows about,... Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #19
Secret government is un-democratic. Octafish Jun 2012 #22
It seems most sheeple just want to go through life SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #24
So true Dokkie Jun 2012 #41
Its like, Psssst, look over here, not over there. SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #56
We can't. Why would anyone but a traitor want to? Are you supporting our enemies over his judgment? WriteWrong Jun 2012 #23
Whose judgment? This is a power accreting to any person who holds the odffice of President> rug Jun 2012 #30
I think hes being sarcastic Dokkie Jun 2012 #42
Ah, a 'have you stopped beating your wife yet' sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #45
When presidents are held accountable, the terrorists win. Karmadillo Jun 2012 #25
Patriotism Jamaal510 Jun 2012 #27
"Make No Mistake: it is only by ignoring the law that we can save the law" MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #28
Authorization was in the Senate Joint Resolution 73, on Spetember 14, 2011 bhikkhu Jun 2012 #32
That authorization does not address tactics, as most blank checks don't. rug Jun 2012 #36
When has it ever? treestar Jun 2012 #44
I argue that Obama is performing the job he was elected to do. And some of the job, I don't approve. freshwest Jun 2012 #37
We are all complicit, you are right, and I too have come to the same conclusion, it is definitely sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #46
Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #48
Who did you vote for before? Every POTUS since this country was founded, by modern standards, was a freshwest Jun 2012 #50
I always read your posts, knowing they will be worth reading. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #57
I think in the end the best one can do raouldukelives Jun 2012 #65
We can NOT! L. Coyote Jun 2012 #53
Du rec. nt xchrom Jun 2012 #64
Kick woo me with science Jun 2012 #70
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