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Fri Jun 1, 2012, 10:24 AM

29. Are you suggesting that the war was not largely seen as Mr Johnson's creation?

Is the chant "Hey, hey, LBJ, how many kids did you kill today" yet another myth that you would be pleased to debunk?

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David Sirota: The Legend of the Spat-Upon Veteran [View all]	marmar	Jun 2012	OP
Our congregation had a	Bohunk68	Jun 2012	#1
I don't know about the spitting	Voice for Peace	Jun 2012	#32
Sorry, but I don't remember that at ALL..........	socialist_n_TN	Jun 2012	#72
A former co-worker once spun a tale	yellerpup	Jun 2012	#2
Why would anyone on weed have the urge to spit on someone?	Crowman1979	Jun 2012	#7
I suppose if an anal cyst can keep you from fightin'	yellerpup	Jun 2012	#12
Rush Limbaugh made fun of homeless Vietnam vets on his show.	UnrepentantLiberal	Jun 2012	#36
And O'Reilly slandered the 82nd Airborne by falsely claiming that the "Malmedy" massacre	AnotherMcIntosh	Jun 2012	#44
Or even the 285th FAOB	malthaussen	Jun 2012	#48
I assume that you're right. "O'Reilly falsely accusing the 82nd Airborne of a "massacre" in Malmédy	AnotherMcIntosh	Jun 2012	#52
Yep. O'Reilly doubtless had his "facts" wrong,	malthaussen	Jun 2012	#53
He's got his argument screwed up, but he's not totally wrong	Rittermeister	Jun 2012	#62
There was a lot of that in reaction to the massacre	malthaussen	Jun 2012	#64
I heard that story too, about vets coming home and "hippies" lining up on either side to spit on	HiPointDem	Jun 2012	#77
Part of painting the Left as unpatriotic.	yellerpup	Jun 2012	#80
Is it credible that someone would hurt this guy's feelings by spitting upon him?	AnotherMcIntosh	Jun 2012	#3
Every Vietnam vet I know...	GoCubsGo	Jun 2012	#11
Ask one of those vets what he would have done if a woman had done the spitting.	malthaussen	Jun 2012	#16
John-I-was-spit-upon-Rambo won't be able to answer because he was not a vet.	AnotherMcIntosh	Jun 2012	#24
The Conservatives did worse than spit.	BiggJawn	Jun 2012	#4
+1.	Robb	Jun 2012	#8
My older brother is a Vietnam war vet	thucythucy	Jun 2012	#5
That was more similar to my experience...	kentuck	Jun 2012	#6
American Legion, probably	Mairead	Jun 2012	#20
Absolutely.	AnotherMcIntosh	Jun 2012	#26
OMG.. Take a break	dadchef	Jun 2012	#47
"The American Legion, is now being called a fascist group"	Mairead	Jun 2012	#56
Perhaps so, I may have misunderstood where you where going..	dadchef	Jun 2012	#60
Not a problem	Mairead	Jun 2012	#65
That tracks with my memory (as a kid in the 70's watching this)...	JHB	Jun 2012	#59
I came through SFO in 69 in uniform going home on leave from my first	SGMRTDARMY	Jun 2012	#78
What sometimes occurs to me is that there was a lot of opposition to "Kennedy's/Johnson's" war ...	zbdent	Jun 2012	#9
An excellent summary of the opposition to the war can be found here:	AnotherMcIntosh	Jun 2012	#14
Are you suggesting that the war was not largely seen as Mr Johnson's creation?	malthaussen	Jun 2012	#29
My words speak for themselves in response to the poster who said it was "Kennedy's/Johnson's" war.	AnotherMcIntosh	Jun 2012	#34
Ah, so your objection is the inclusion of Kennedy's name	malthaussen	Jun 2012	#35
My late husband spent 7 mo in San Francisco, never spat upon, never saw anyone spat upon	duhneece	Jun 2012	#10
I spent 18 months as a patient at Letterman in '70-'71	pinboy3niner	Jun 2012	#68
According to Lt Frederick Downs	malthaussen	Jun 2012	#74
Mike went to Letterman in Feb 1971	duhneece	Jun 2012	#84
If Mike was on the amputee ward, it's likely that I saw him then	pinboy3niner	Jun 2012	#85
I was at a lecture with other seniors listening to a retired college professor talk about	CTyankee	Jun 2012	#13
We are a huge country with millions upon millions	VWolf	Jun 2012	#18
Or maybe he misremembered and over the years he's gotten more comfortable with it.	CTyankee	Jun 2012	#21
If you're "sure there were a few spitting incidents here and there,"	AnotherMcIntosh	Jun 2012	#25
Well yeah, that last paragraph sums it up pretty nicely..........	socialist_n_TN	Jun 2012	#73
Anyone foolish enough	The Wizard	Jun 2012	#15
Would you have "dispatched" the spitter if it had been a woman?	malthaussen	Jun 2012	#23
Have any of those allegedly familiar with spit victims ever claimed that the spitor was a woman?	AnotherMcIntosh	Jun 2012	#27
Indeed, one could	malthaussen	Jun 2012	#33
yes (nt)	The Wizard	Jun 2012	#75
Really? You're unusual, then.	malthaussen	Jun 2012	#81
I suppose it might have happened a time or two, but I think such a thing	MineralMan	Jun 2012	#17
Stabbed in the back! The past and future of a right-wing myth - Harper's Magazine 2006	Kolesar	Jun 2012	#19
Related is: "We had to fight with one hand tied behind our backs"	yellowcanine	Jun 2012	#30
Bomb Hanoi	Kolesar	Jun 2012	#37
The Stab in the Back Theory	malthaussen	Jun 2012	#22
A corollary: the liberal media lost the war. Forget about the courage and	coalition_unwilling	Jun 2012	#41
The urban myth: Walter Cronkite lost the war	malthaussen	Jun 2012	#45
Cronkite may not have sapped our will to continue, since continue we did	coalition_unwilling	Jun 2012	#46
Yup, I've heard that one, too.	malthaussen	Jun 2012	#50
I don't think LBJ allegedly said it to Bill Moyers (his press secretary). I think	coalition_unwilling	Jun 2012	#54
That last sentence, Coalition	malthaussen	Jun 2012	#57
You are more than welcome. It's funny the tricks memory plays on you, as	coalition_unwilling	Jun 2012	#61
Most of us young men at the time were eligible for the draft. Any one of us could have been sent to	mulsh	Jun 2012	#28
I generally agree with and support Sirota. I do feel I must point out	coalition_unwilling	Jun 2012	#31
I read Monday's thread, and I got the "anguish" that was expressed there	Kolesar	Jun 2012	#39
I'm not sure I'm allowed to reference DUers by posting name specifically - rules	coalition_unwilling	Jun 2012	#40
You mentioned that you were influenced by first-person reports from DUers in good standing.	AnotherMcIntosh	Jun 2012	#42
I understand where you are coming from (I think). Look, I was 8 years old in 1968 (when	coalition_unwilling	Jun 2012	#43
Drunks in bars are always thpitting after four or five beers!	Kolesar	Jun 2012	#71
It wasn't my war	Capt. Obvious	Jun 2012	#38
Another way in which Obama channels the worst of the Reagan Era Lies	kenny blankenship	Jun 2012	#49
I wouldn't call it a "Reagan Era lie,"	malthaussen	Jun 2012	#51
Reagan started 'The Big Lie' when he called Vietnam "A noble cause". I still	coalition_unwilling	Jun 2012	#55
But wasn't Vietnam a "noble cause" before Reagan?	malthaussen	Jun 2012	#58
See Jerry Lembcke's book:	July	Jun 2012	#63
You and I are close contemporaries, then.	malthaussen	Jun 2012	#67
True, true.	AverageJoe90	Jun 2012	#66
As one of the book's descriptions points out, Lembcke can't prove a negative.	July	Jun 2012	#70
The saliva soaked vets stand right next to	Egalitarian Thug	Jun 2012	#69
I had a co-worker who told me her husband was spit on when he returned from vietnam. She	HiPointDem	Jun 2012	#76
But...but...but..."Coming Home" was a documentary!	Tom Ripley	Jun 2012	#79
I remember 'Coming Home' being a profoundly anti-war and sad movie but don't remember	coalition_unwilling	Jun 2012	#82
The one who spat hardest was Reagan, with his cuts to veterans' benefit and slashing social services	suffragette	Jun 2012	#83
There are some people who are much more to blame than a few scattered self-righteous kids	JHB	Jun 2012	#86
I was a college student during the height of the Vietnam War, and	Lydia Leftcoast	Jun 2012	#87
I served 3 tours in RVN, came through the SF airport 5 times, always treated well	1-Old-Man	Jun 2012	#88
I came through SFO in 69 in early to mid Dec in uniform	SGMRTDARMY	Jun 2012	#89

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29. Are you suggesting that the war was not largely *seen* as Mr Johnson's creation?

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29. Are you suggesting that the war was not largely seen as Mr Johnson's creation?