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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
38. For a short period of time in one's life, yes.
Fri Jun 1, 2012, 04:26 AM
Jun 2012

But not on a recurring and perpetual basis, which is the model the 1% are trying to impose on us now.

If you don't have a job... YellowRubberDuckie May 2012 #1
+1. $2000+ for moving truck cross country drive. napoleon_in_rags May 2012 #5
I barely have $50 to my name until midnight. YellowRubberDuckie May 2012 #8
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2012 #45
Moving to where the jobs were didnt work out so well for the Joads... HooptieWagon May 2012 #2
It worked out great for the folks who bought the Joad family's property and belongings Ken Burch Jun 2012 #12
the Joads (and the real people whom they were based) were sharecroppers cojoel Jun 2012 #50
It worked out fine for my grandparents back in the 40's bhikkhu Jun 2012 #34
UH...that was during World War II. Ken Burch Jun 2012 #36
So what should such a person do? badtoworse May 2012 #3
Keep moving every 2-3 years. Zalatix May 2012 #10
You can still use it. Ken Burch Jun 2012 #13
The point isn't what a single person should do. Ken Burch Jun 2012 #16
I disagree. I moved to where the jobs are years ago. I'm still here. Honeycombe8 May 2012 #4
And then the jobs leave your town and you have to go do it again. And again. And Again. Zalatix May 2012 #7
You move to a big city taught_me_patience Jun 2012 #15
At least until everyone else moves there Zalatix Jun 2012 #17
More people = bigger economy taught_me_patience Jun 2012 #20
Gotcha. So that's why there's now enough jobs for everyone in the big cities. Zalatix Jun 2012 #21
You just don't want to admit it when you're wrong. You don't move just anywhere. Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #98
I'm not wrong. The math backs me up. Zalatix Jun 2012 #110
Not only are their 4 people fighting for each job Ken Burch Jun 2012 #124
"You can always start a small business too and make money that way"? Ken Burch Jun 2012 #61
Yes people start small businesses every day and make money taught_me_patience Jun 2012 #65
The vast majority of those who start small businesses Ken Burch Jun 2012 #72
Gotta Love Some Of The Shit On DU Ken HangOnKids Jun 2012 #76
Well, it could be that "patience" is right Ken Burch Jun 2012 #79
Damnit Ken That Was My Plan! HangOnKids Jun 2012 #81
You can still make it work Ken Burch Jun 2012 #84
Well it takes planning, hard work, dedication, and guts taught_me_patience Jun 2012 #83
And a lot of people who DO plan, work hard, are dedicated, and display guts Ken Burch Jun 2012 #85
It's a matter of statistics. If you are a mechanical engineer, Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #99
You just don't want to admit it when you're wrong. Zalatix Jun 2012 #112
Why do you resent people who do something proactive to improve their chances for their future? Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #118
Because in a resource shortage, there is a high chance that you're just WASTING energy Zalatix Jun 2012 #119
Again, this thread isn't about attacking individuals who have moved to find work Ken Burch Jun 2012 #122
I think if you read what I wrote taught_me_patience Jun 2012 #106
You didn't say "it was difficult but not impossible", or anything remotely like that. Ken Burch Jun 2012 #108
Sorry Dude Your Know It All Condescension HangOnKids Jun 2012 #91
That depends on your definition of success. I'm not rich, but I'm successful, Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #100
This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Jun 2012 #107
Me, too! Put me on ignore! Zalatix Jun 2012 #113
Your second paragraph makes it sound Ken Burch Jun 2012 #109
Lots of people start businesses here in Dallas. Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #102
Lots of people start businesses here in Dallas. But you don't mention the failure rate. Zalatix Jun 2012 #120
Most new businesses fail everywhere. Everyone knows that. It's in the realm of common knowleldge. Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #134
Or you can go out of business within two years KamaAina Jun 2012 #86
Not counting the drug dealers, of course. Ken Burch Jun 2012 #90
And, of course, the local Chamber of Commerce in those years(the Depression) Ken Burch Jun 2012 #29
Man, is that billboard iconic or what? Eerily coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #74
well yeah...if you count selling your body as a job. Ken Burch Jun 2012 #28
Always jobs available in "The BIG City"? bvar22 Jun 2012 #43
I'm on my 8th state. All but one for jobs. I'm perfectly happy dmallind Jun 2012 #47
How much did it cost to move each time? Zalatix Jun 2012 #49
Varied - got higher as I got more stuff obviously dmallind Jun 2012 #51
Well, if you're poor enough you can just abandon everything and walk, I suppose. Zalatix Jun 2012 #52
There was a very famous and very nasty British politician who expressed that vile attitude thusly: Ken Burch Jun 2012 #77
You'd be less poor if you took that job in another city though. dmallind Jun 2012 #104
Yes, if you abandoned your belongings, your family and kids, and packed up and moved Zalatix Jun 2012 #132
And if people WANT to move for work, that's fine. Ken Burch Jun 2012 #63
Sorry - nobody has the right to a job of their choice in a place of their choice dmallind Jun 2012 #103
Worth working to establish those rights, though, don't you think? Ken Burch Jun 2012 #111
You didn't read the post. I said I moved to a big city with a diverse economy. Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #96
Pretty funny Art_from_Ark May 2012 #11
Dionne Warwick nailed it Ken Burch Jun 2012 #88
In 1968, gas was as cheap as 20 cents/gallon Art_from_Ark Jun 2012 #115
True...that was the pre-OPEC era. Ken Burch Jun 2012 #116
You do realize that you were lucky, though...don't you? Ken Burch Jun 2012 #14
If I caught a break then EVERYONE will catch a break... just spend $2000 and move! Zalatix Jun 2012 #23
I was responding to Honeycomb8's post, not yours. Ken Burch Jun 2012 #25
Oh no, I wasn't attacking your post. I was making fun of the argument you were responding to. Zalatix Jun 2012 #27
OK...glad we got that cleared up. Ken Burch Jun 2012 #30
Somebody needs to Photoshop an image of "The Moving Fairy" Ken Burch Jun 2012 #125
The REAL real answer, Ken, is to make the necessities of life Mairead Jun 2012 #42
Interesting thought. Ken Burch Jun 2012 #58
"you do need to find some way" Mairead Jun 2012 #67
My concern is to avoid the creation of a "nomenklatura" bureaucratic class Ken Burch Jun 2012 #69
Bravo! If we had politicians of vision, they would speak of organizing coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #75
Create what jobs where? dmallind Jun 2012 #48
Well, with design work, you CAN, in fact, do that anywhere Ken Burch Jun 2012 #59
How is that degree of planning and control possible? hack89 Jun 2012 #126
It can be done through the use of the Internet and email. Ken Burch Jun 2012 #127
How to you force people to conform? hack89 Jun 2012 #128
What the status quo does is about "forc(ing) people to conform" Ken Burch Jun 2012 #129
That doesn't work for manufacturing hack89 Jun 2012 #130
Completely agree taught_me_patience Jun 2012 #19
And I'm glad you were able to, but that wasn't my point Ken Burch Jun 2012 #26
Of course.. sendero Jun 2012 #41
Your argument about how something that works for you should be something lunatica Jun 2012 #82
I think "Honeycomb8"s posts reflect something that's being intentionally spread in this country Ken Burch Jun 2012 #92
What if I don't want to move to the Philippines? ( n/t ) Make7 May 2012 #6
What if you can't? Zalatix May 2012 #9
And what if the Filipinos don't want to move HERE? Ken Burch Jun 2012 #18
Why would they want to, now? All the jobs are coming to them. Zalatix Jun 2012 #22
It may look like the jobs are coming to them Ken Burch Jun 2012 #31
An excellent idea Zalatix Jun 2012 #33
Yep, I've seen it. freshwest Jun 2012 #24
Infuriating but true GObamaGO Jun 2012 #32
listening to stories from older generations Sea-Dog Jun 2012 #35
For a short period of time in one's life, yes. Ken Burch Jun 2012 #38
Fundamentally shifting the culture has been on the agenda for a long time. K&R n/t Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #37
True flobee1 Jun 2012 #39
Follow in the footsteps of Tom Joad. Great idea, ain't it? Kablooie Jun 2012 #40
Maybe we can form nomadic tribes. Quantess Jun 2012 #44
^^^ Thread killer. Zalatix Jun 2012 #53
I thought "thread killer" meant that the thread died after the post..? Quantess Jun 2012 #55
Naw, I mean thread killer as in you issued what SHOULD be the closing statement. Zalatix Jun 2012 #94
This message was self-deleted by its author Quantess Jun 2012 #95
I would be happy to move to a town where the work is. GoCubsGo Jun 2012 #46
Well put Ken Burch Jun 2012 #62
If I recall correctly, a vice president once said people should just sell stuff on eBay... Shampoobra Jun 2012 #54
I know, that was colossally dumb thing of him to say. Quantess Jun 2012 #56
Or thieves who steal bins of defective electonics from factories Shampoobra Jun 2012 #66
My daughter just took a job 2000+ miles away. Even doing ALL of the moving herself, it cost @ $5k riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #57
It's about using repeated forced relocation to turn the majority into an underclass Ken Burch Jun 2012 #60
Guess nobody who praises the idea of "just get off your fat ass and move to where the jobs are" sad sally Jun 2012 #64
It's an idea praised mainly by those Ken Burch Jun 2012 #70
If you want work you'll abandon your kids, pets and parents. Do what ya gotta do! The American way! Zalatix Jun 2012 #114
It depends jeff47 Jun 2012 #68
Again...the point of this thread wasn't to say "it's wrong to leave your hometown". Ken Burch Jun 2012 #71
As the immortal Buddy Holly sang: coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #73
That's Clarence "Frogman" Henry's song. MrSlayer Jun 2012 #93
You're right. Time to re-boot the old noggin - n/t coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #97
This discussion also makes me think of one of the saddest country songs of all time: Ken Burch Jun 2012 #131
Keep in mind that some folks are dependent on family nearby Sabriel Jun 2012 #78
Those who demand "mobility" would argue that this means Ken Burch Jun 2012 #80
And they're supposed to do what, exactly, with their house? KamaAina Jun 2012 #87
Assuming they even had a house. Ken Burch Jun 2012 #89
Once I graduate from college I hope to begin business in my home region. AJTheMan Jun 2012 #101
And I'm not saying it's wrong that you're willing to do that. Ken Burch Jun 2012 #121
k&r . . . .n/t annabanana Jun 2012 #105
Relocating is too massively expensive and inconvenient for it to be BlueIris Jun 2012 #117
Service economy meets just in time manufacturing. nt rrneck Jun 2012 #123
Ah, yes.. taking us back to the good old days... opiate69 Jun 2012 #133
Hurray for anyone who does what it takes to better their situation,whether moving, getting education Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #135
You know perfectly well I wasn't ridiculing people for relocating. Ken Burch Jun 2012 #141
Kick for an important issue. n/t area51 Jun 2012 #136
That actually happened in the Great Depression. Whole families living in their cars and following jwirr Jun 2012 #137
I intend to continue renting for the foreseeable future 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #138
Should the Irish have just stayed home? One_Life_To_Give Jun 2012 #139
And once again, I wasn't attacking people FOR relocating Ken Burch Jun 2012 #140
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