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aikoaiko

(34,127 posts)
81. I agree, that 40 hours a week is not enough to live on for very long (did you not read that?).
Tue May 29, 2012, 04:02 PM
May 2012

And I apologize for cutting and pasting your username with the OP subject line. I was not intending to indicate that those were your words, but that they were the numbers in the Original Post.

I'll edit it to be more clear.
The answer is twofold. PDJane May 2012 #1
tax the renters? mopinko May 2012 #2
Renters pay tax. It's in the cost of the rent. SharonAnn May 2012 #11
That's right, it's an old RW lie they toss to divide people. freshwest May 2012 #129
Theoretically Coyote_Bandit May 2012 #157
Wow. Meanwhile, make sure the landlords don't have to kestrel91316 May 2012 #13
We already pay property taxes through out rents, thanks n/t Occulus May 2012 #26
The renters, not the rentees.......the property owner. And make sure he pays it, not the rentee. PDJane May 2012 #48
The landlord passes the costs through to the tenants. n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2012 #64
And you do this..... how? oldernwiser May 2012 #77
No, increasing the minimum wage does NOT increase costs of goods and services. Zoeisright May 2012 #112
Then were does the money to pay the increased wages come from? GreenStormCloud May 2012 #116
cuts in the profits a little bit. gejohnston May 2012 #122
Increases in minimum wage get spent, then spent again. The money multiplies almost like magic. tclambert May 2012 #124
The secret is to simultaneously increase income taxes, on investment income especially ArcticFox May 2012 #144
No one else see it because you are using kindergarten level economics MattBaggins May 2012 #155
1998 was my first year in Russia, they asked me about the US, I asked them about Russia HereSince1628 May 2012 #3
50% minimum OVERPAID01 May 2012 #125
Yahoo! Welcome to DU buckeroo. HereSince1628 May 2012 #133
More like chervilant May 2012 #154
Why would 1 wage earner need 2 bedrooms? Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #4
Single parent of PotatoChip May 2012 #5
That's required by some landlords. freshwest May 2012 #130
Single mother. nt TBF May 2012 #6
That I'll mea culpa Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #14
Yes - I thought of my sister right away. TBF May 2012 #37
Because in the US it's typical not to have everyone in a household sleep in the same room. HereSince1628 May 2012 #7
Thank you. JDPriestly May 2012 #19
Gulp..... dixiegrrrrl May 2012 #20
+1 stockholmer May 2012 #61
and because children are forever, while life-circumstances are always subject to change SoCalDem May 2012 #153
*facepalm* LeftyMom May 2012 #8
Perhaps that person has accumulated possessions? Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #10
Children. SharonAnn May 2012 #12
Let's see laundry_queen May 2012 #15
Storage and archives. Trillo May 2012 #16
Because the wage-earner has an invalid mother or a teenaged son. JDPriestly May 2012 #17
don't forget about couples with only one wage earner fizzgig May 2012 #53
One bedroom to sleep in, and another as a shrine to military heroes DisgustipatedinCA May 2012 #67
... quinnox May 2012 #145
Their sacrifice made it all possible! JVS May 2012 #146
I'm not sure a person can afford a two bedroom rent by themselves with a college degree. dkf May 2012 #9
The government props up housing values for the same reason it subsidizes JDPriestly May 2012 #21
The government does offer subsidized housing or public housing. Selatius May 2012 #44
Rather instead that government stopped depressing wage earnings which are still insufficient.. Fumesucker May 2012 #22
How does government "depress" wages? dkf May 2012 #33
By allowing the velocity of money through the financial system to drop too low.. Fumesucker May 2012 #110
I can't even afford a ONE bedroom apartment in New York smirkymonkey May 2012 #60
Yes. It's ridiculous. dkf May 2012 #85
Minimum wagers never get to work full time longship May 2012 #18
No. jeff47 May 2012 #23
Depends on your classification nowdays. dixiegrrrrl May 2012 #24
no, you are correct dana_b May 2012 #40
Sorry to point out the glaring facts, but: Indydem May 2012 #25
My rent for a 2 bedroom apartment in a very old house (no grounded outlets!) is $615. Occulus May 2012 #27
There are a lot of factors that play into rent. Indydem May 2012 #29
more than 10 years ago is my guess... We renters are all downsizing now to smaller places, paying m robinlynne May 2012 #32
I rented from 2004-2007 Indydem May 2012 #56
Could you please elaborate a bit on those factors? davidthegnome May 2012 #38
Rents in rural ME are VERY affordable--of course, the jobs are few and far between. nt MADem May 2012 #148
more than 20 years ago is my guess pscot May 2012 #42
My rent for a two bedroom one bath in a home built in 1927 abelenkpe May 2012 #49
Just Hold On A Minute YOHABLO May 2012 #31
No, I didn't. Indydem May 2012 #35
food for 30.00 a week for oe person is impossible, even sticking to spaghetti and eggs. robinlynne May 2012 #104
IF those are options Daalalou May 2012 #158
?? your calculations are off dana_b May 2012 #45
They can't. nt abelenkpe May 2012 #50
I used the OP Indydem May 2012 #55
No. PotatoChip May 2012 #70
where I live, in los angeles, a one bedroom is a lot more than 1200! I ahve rent control, and they a robinlynne May 2012 #105
Might want to factor in childcare costs (among other things) PotatoChip May 2012 #69
You really should have read more carefully, as you completely missed the facts Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #73
The graphic is wrong Indydem May 2012 #82
This came out over a month ago (apparently it didn't find it's way here) and I have. Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #87
The numbers are bullshit. Indydem May 2012 #90
If you have no interest in learning, but merely want to argue, Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #92
Those numbers are from your links. Indydem May 2012 #94
Good gravy, the median income of all renters has no implied relationship to Bluenorthwest May 2012 #102
If you have 2 bedrooms, don't you have 2 wage earners? Either spouses with kids, or roommates? Honeycombe8 May 2012 #111
No, sometimes you're a single wage earner with kids. Zoeisright May 2012 #113
It's a long wait to get Sec 8 housing, like 2 years. Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #161
You are a (unprintable) (unprintable). Who are you.... Mitt Romney's mouthpiece? TalkingDog May 2012 #150
I left Boston because of that Warpy May 2012 #28
Word! pscot May 2012 #43
of course. robinlynne May 2012 #30
a new world awaits you in the offworld colonies datasuspect May 2012 #34
Was it ever? n/t JHB May 2012 #36
Old new is old Harmony Blue May 2012 #39
A solution to the housing problem is what I did. RebelOne May 2012 #41
You are in a smaller town, perhaps? dixiegrrrrl May 2012 #51
I am just northwest of Atlanta and my town is considered RebelOne May 2012 #75
Does a student's first job have to be enough for him to get a 2BR apt? thesquanderer May 2012 #46
Not all minimum wage workers are 2/4-year degree students that just graduated. haele May 2012 #58
True, not all minimum wage earners are people starting out, but... thesquanderer May 2012 #131
Expecting it? Nope. davidthegnome May 2012 #59
the point thesquanderer May 2012 #132
Republicans WIN!.... Evasporque May 2012 #47
Repubs see no problem in that n2doc May 2012 #52
Has there ever been a time when minimum wage was sufficient to rent a 2-bedroom apartment everywhere slackmaster May 2012 #54
30 Days: Minimum Wage dana_b May 2012 #57
I loved Spurlock and this series. flvegan May 2012 #121
But if we get rid of the minimum wage, businesses will add jobs, and everyone AllyCat May 2012 #62
Think of the jobs that people will get evicting people who can't pay the rent. JVS May 2012 #147
What I want to know is why isn't housing Mairead May 2012 #63
Because the Kings of Europe were granted ownership of the earth, by God Himself, Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #74
How many, d'you reckon, think that's a good enough reason? Mairead May 2012 #86
I can only guess that not enough have thought it through, or if they have, Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #91
IMO, not all jobs should earn living wages. OneTenthofOnePercent May 2012 #65
You're either very old or have been living under that rock for too long. Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #76
That's not what I said. The point I am stating is... OneTenthofOnePercent May 2012 #101
Then those jobs don't really need doing.. Fumesucker May 2012 #118
Try reading this book. Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #120
Excellent suggestion. Everyone should read that book. PotatoChip May 2012 #149
Be clear initially and people won't jump on you for making an.... MindMover May 2012 #128
"The value of labor a person provides....." Tsiyu May 2012 #138
Yeah. I've heard that argument before. Iris May 2012 #84
I have no problem with raising minimum wage... employees rights should be protected. OneTenthofOnePercent May 2012 #97
and therein lies the crux of the problem oldernwiser May 2012 #88
Bingo - yours might be the most succinct description of the problem I've ever heard: OneTenthofOnePercent May 2012 #100
In Europe Harmony Blue May 2012 #93
Yeah ... and how are some of those countries doing (fiscally) nowadays? OneTenthofOnePercent May 2012 #99
That has to be the dumbest post I've read on this board in years. Zoeisright May 2012 #114
What do you suggest, oh wise one? OneTenthofOnePercent May 2012 #115
Point well made oldernwiser May 2012 #119
Wow... (nt) harmonicon May 2012 #139
This can be worked around Daalalou May 2012 #159
Interesting and progressive work around to this problem... I like it. OneTenthofOnePercent May 2012 #160
Wages are not keeping up with the cost of living. lumberjack_jeff May 2012 #66
yep lovuian May 2012 #71
I think the basic point was lost in the rent vs. wages discussion. lumberjack_jeff May 2012 #72
That's not to say that rents aren't too high. harmonicon May 2012 #142
He was wrong. harmonicon May 2012 #140
k&r n/t RainDog May 2012 #68
I must be missing something: 40hrs x $7.25 x 4 = $1160 aikoaiko May 2012 #78
you know that was the title of the article -- so why you said xchrom -- well, i can guess. xchrom May 2012 #79
That's not even their take home pay. After taxes, they'd take home roughly $940/month. smokey nj May 2012 #80
+1 sarcasmo May 2012 #126
I agree, that 40 hours a week is not enough to live on for very long (did you not read that?). aikoaiko May 2012 #81
Yes you are. The poster put up the graphic for a two-bedroom, not a one. Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #89
Yep and it's been that way for some time. Iris May 2012 #83
What percentage of households are making minimum wage, with single earners? geek_sabre May 2012 #95
Mine is now. I was earning 40 or 50,000 per year (gross) 8 years ago. robinlynne May 2012 #106
Next time you go to a restaurant, Curmudgeoness May 2012 #108
Me. I have a child and part-time $7.50/hr work. CottonBear May 2012 #152
Dr Ehrenreich exposed that shortfall Mairead May 2012 #96
K & R !!! WillyT May 2012 #98
They need to stop calling it "minimum wage" and call it what it really is: Brooklyn Dame May 2012 #103
I think it's below what someone can subsist on. (nt) harmonicon May 2012 #143
That is why so many families have two bread winners. McCamy Taylor May 2012 #107
Duh. Everyone knows that. It only happens in the movies. valerief May 2012 #109
The Rent Is Too Damn High! DotGone May 2012 #117
The best example of why so many twenty and thirty somethings are still living at home. sarcasmo May 2012 #123
Too true. n/t HCE SuiGeneris May 2012 #136
I was a college grad working as a consultant and couln't afford a 2bd taught_me_patience May 2012 #127
Making UNION wages in California, I could just afford a studio REP May 2012 #134
And so it goes, HCE SuiGeneris May 2012 #135
Western MA here... I pay $500 a month for 1/6th of a house. Fearless May 2012 #137
Slave labor is not a very well kept secret. Try arguing a livable wage and see what it gets you. lonestarnot May 2012 #141
Most jobs these days are considered "full time" with 30-35 hours IF you can get that many SoCalDem May 2012 #151
Sadly, this has been true for some time dash_bannon May 2012 #156
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