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benEzra

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69. Is the ACLU a terrorist organization too?

Sun Nov 22, 2015, 02:13 PM

Nov 2015

http://www.aclu.org/watch-lists
http://www.aclu.org/unlikely-suspects?redirect=technology-and-liberty/unlikely-suspects

Is Mother Jones a terrorist magazine?

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2014/02/nine-years-no-fly-list-because-fbi-agent-checked-wrong-box

And those pesky terrorists at the Washington Post:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A17073-2004Aug19.html

This guy would approve:

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Democrats push to prevent gun sales to those on terror list [View all] EV_Ares Nov 2015 OP

So what's wrong with this? Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #1

People on the list... krispos42 Nov 2015 #2

For those who have forgotten why this Bush/Cheney proposal was a bad idea... benEzra Nov 2015 #3

The 5th Amendment: Always the first to go. Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #4

The list in question is not the 'no fly' list, it's a much broader list of people for petronius Nov 2015 #5

This should have been done a long time ago Gothmog Nov 2015 #6

Revoking civil liberties because you were put on a list to be checked out? benEzra Nov 2015 #8

Until the list is massively cleaned up, this is hard to support. Lizzie Poppet Nov 2015 #7

So, why not use your same suggest6ions for immigrants coming into this country. The same people EV_Ares Nov 2015 #9

So lets apply the list to Drivers Licenses. oneshooter Nov 2015 #12

Go ahead with that comment, LOL. EV_Ares Nov 2015 #13

I do not support this at all 951-Riverside Nov 2015 #10

You should be a free NRA member as that is their philosophy. EV_Ares Nov 2015 #14

NRA supports abolishing the 2nd amendment? That's news to me 951-Riverside Nov 2015 #15

They say almost word for word what you say: EV_Ares Nov 2015 #16

You're defending the Bush/Cheney position. He's defending the ACLU position. benEzra Nov 2015 #19

I am defending the Feinstein & Dem position. EV_Ares Nov 2015 #26

This isn't a gun control issue, it's a civil liberties issue NutmegYankee Nov 2015 #31

Feinstein's proposal is a Bush/Cheney proposal from 2005 that was roundly rejected. benEzra Nov 2015 #66

Their are no "Free" Nra members... virginia mountainman Nov 2015 #25

Fuck this unconstitutional piece of shit (the no-fly / terror list) and anybody who supports it. n/t X_Digger Nov 2015 #11

Yeah, that is telling them. EV_Ares Nov 2015 #17

Feel free to give up your liberties for the illusion of safety. Not mine, thanks. X_Digger Nov 2015 #18

Would you listen to the ACLU? benEzra Nov 2015 #20

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/26/opinion/gun-rights-for-terrorists.html?_r=0 EV_Ares Nov 2015 #29

You don't think things change over time or years including documents, laws or needs. EV_Ares Nov 2015 #30

Yes, things change over time. They have gotten *SAFER*. benEzra Nov 2015 #67

With a commercial-grade chainsaw friendly_iconoclast Nov 2015 #22

This is wrong! The list is suspect! Nt Logical Nov 2015 #21

Not 'suspect', McCarthyite bullshit friendly_iconoclast Nov 2015 #23

Use some logic, you don't think things change, documents, laws refined over time, over years. EV_Ares Nov 2015 #32

"Times change" sounds like "be afraid". Go ahead and let them scare you. I won't nt Logical Nov 2015 #49

Suddenly lots of love for.. virginia mountainman Nov 2015 #24

Not getting the responses Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #27

Who controls the list and how can this be Constitutional given the 5th Amendment? NutmegYankee Nov 2015 #28

Bloomberg: Deny Second Amendment to People on Terror Watch List EV_Ares Nov 2015 #33

I don't care what some blowhard says. I care about Civil Liberties of US Citizens. NutmegYankee Nov 2015 #34

Well, fortunately, his voice along with more important people's voices get heard over what you care EV_Ares Nov 2015 #35

Congratulations on your embrace of Fascism! NutmegYankee Nov 2015 #36

Again, your opinion of which that is all it is. Fortunately more intelligent EV_Ares Nov 2015 #37

No, that label fits quite nicely. NutmegYankee Nov 2015 #40

ROFL - again your opinion which certainly doesn't account for much as far as many are concerned. EV_Ares Nov 2015 #41

Why are you here? NutmegYankee Nov 2015 #42

Why are you here? Do you make the determination now of who can come here? LOL, you are hilarious. EV_Ares Nov 2015 #44

I'm here because I support the Democratic Party. NutmegYankee Nov 2015 #45

Actually, I don't have to explain to you why I am here. That said however, EV_Ares Nov 2015 #46

I support Feinstein on some issues, but not all. NutmegYankee Nov 2015 #47

So, nothing wrong with that. Again, I have as much right to be here as you & your name-callling EV_Ares Nov 2015 #48

You stated clearly that you were not concerned about civil liberties. NutmegYankee Nov 2015 #50

Look, now you have to lie to try to support your own personal opinion. I have never stated I am EV_Ares Nov 2015 #51

*yawn* NutmegYankee Nov 2015 #58

It seems like a no brainer, but the other part of Feinstein's bill is more important. Vinca Nov 2015 #38

Exactly. EV_Ares Nov 2015 #39

Yep. benEzra Nov 2015 #68

Who is on the list and how did they get there??? ileus Nov 2015 #43

We are not willing to pass regualtions when a man puts bullets in the heads of 6 year olds, Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #52

Denial of a right without due process or even the ability to fight or appeal it is wrong. Period. Lee-Lee Nov 2015 #53

It has been revised EV_Ares Nov 2015 #55

That's the No-Fly list. That's not the list in question. Lizzie Poppet Nov 2015 #56

Thanks Lizzie, you are correct & also correct in that some names do appear on both. EV_Ares Nov 2015 #61

Agreed. These lists are useful, but need significant reform (nm). Lizzie Poppet Nov 2015 #62

Exactly. EV_Ares Nov 2015 #63

The no-fly list is a subset of the consolidated watchlist, so everyone on the petronius Nov 2015 #64

No. That is the No Fly List, the Terrorist Watch List is larger and has no due process at all Lee-Lee Nov 2015 #57

Gunners are always afraid of losing access to their next lethal weapon. Hoyt Nov 2015 #54

And you are always worried about taking access away. beevul Nov 2015 #71

What do you need a bunch of gunz for anyway? One us enough for home defense, unless Hoyt Nov 2015 #74

What I need or don't need, is none of your damn business... beevul Nov 2015 #75

Sure it is when your questionable needs are polluting society. Hoyt Nov 2015 #76

You are neither qualified nor in a position to make that determination. beevul Nov 2015 #78

National Rifle Association has signaled it is a terrorist organization! B Calm Nov 2015 #59

Is the ACLU a terrorist organization too? benEzra Nov 2015 #69

It is scary sarisataka Nov 2015 #60

There is contingent aming the controller-banners which is authoritarian... Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #65

Question: Should "terrorists" be allowed to vote? benEzra Nov 2015 #70

When put to the test, linuxman Nov 2015 #72

It seems more than a few sarisataka Nov 2015 #73

The wailing and gnashing of teeth notwithstanding... Orrex Nov 2015 #77