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30. schools aren't closing because of charters. There are many, many factors behind closing schools
Mon May 28, 2012, 02:22 AM
May 2012

Of all of the complaints about charters, the 'segregated' issue is the most absurd. It's designed to provide a wedge argument, but admission is voluntary. I live near Baltimore and we have several charter schools in predominately black neighborhoods with majority black populations of students which are supported by residents there. There's nothing any more wrong with that than there would be in a white neighborhood. As the charter program stands today, there isn't the negative impact from that tiny fraction of schools that critics warn of. All you can do is wave around the hobgoblin that someone somewhere wants to end public education by promoting charters.

The federal government will never gain control of what schools states and districts choose to set up. Most of the charters are in urban areas where there are funding challenges (bonds rather than the property taxes generated in more residential areas). States are still going to be in control of what types of schools they make available. The federal government can only provide incentives. I think a lot of these urban districts are grateful for the help.

I agree completely, but the question that hangs in my mind is... Lionessa May 2012 #1
first, you'd have to locate an 'education policy' of Romney's to debate bigtree May 2012 #2
Yeah, well after much reading here on DU, I have little hope for the public system under Obama Lionessa May 2012 #5
well, just on the money invested on PE on the initiative of this admin alone he deserves support bigtree May 2012 #6
that money comes with strings. iemitsu May 2012 #8
'death warrant?' that's just hyperbolic nonsense bigtree May 2012 #9
big tree, you must not be a public school teacher. iemitsu May 2012 #12
charter schools, as they exist today, don't threaten your job bigtree May 2012 #15
The research you quote is from 1997, when the majority of the few charter schools that existed HiPointDem May 2012 #14
so, like, in a predominately black neighborhood, you'll find a charter school bigtree May 2012 #16
In case you didn't know, charter schools aren't neighborhood schools. They're open to all students. HiPointDem May 2012 #19
you act like they're corralling folk to the schools based on race bigtree May 2012 #22
I didn't say that, & I didn't do the study. I linked a reputable study & gave you a *fact* that HiPointDem May 2012 #23
the 'straw' is acting as if the racial makeup was some issue bigtree May 2012 #24
You're free to keep repeating the falsehood that charter schools are neighborhood schools, but HiPointDem May 2012 #25
schools aren't closing because of charters. There are many, many factors behind closing schools bigtree May 2012 #30
Public schools are closing because the PTB want them to close. Charter schools are opening HiPointDem May 2012 #32
Most, if not all, of the extra money the admin put into ed has been used to coerce states and HiPointDem May 2012 #13
'all the extra money?' That's not what I see in the budget. bigtree May 2012 #17
A large part of it went to RTTT, which went to coerce states and districts as I said. HiPointDem May 2012 #18
i see it the same way as you do HiPointDem. iemitsu May 2012 #20
you haven't proven that the discretionary spending is to 'coerce' states bigtree May 2012 #21
I don't have to "prove" it, it's right there in the requirements to get the money. HiPointDem May 2012 #26
those are incentives which are in addition to other increases in funding bigtree May 2012 #27
Not in RTTT they're not. Regardless of how much money comes from the feds, the impetus for HiPointDem May 2012 #28
I know enough bigtree May 2012 #29
"Handful"? There were over 5600 charter schools in the US 2 years ago, with more than 2 million HiPointDem May 2012 #31
compared to the amount of public schools, it's a pittance bigtree May 2012 #33
It was 5% in 2009, and getting bigger every year. Not to mention on-line schooling & vouchers, + HiPointDem May 2012 #34
I though we were assuming that we're both sincere in this discussion. I guess not. bigtree May 2012 #35
Bingo. 99Forever May 2012 #3
He came for nothing, and he left with what he came for. madashelltoo May 2012 #4
You mentioned Charter Schools goclark May 2012 #10
Thanks. Scurrilous May 2012 #7
It's hard work, pretending you give a rats ass annabanana May 2012 #11
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