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Sat May 26, 2012, 01:58 PM

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82. It's a good mantra. Sadly, the current owners/sponsors of the Democratic Party

...wouldn't allow it.

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A question about RFK [View all]	lovemydog	May 2012	OP
That is an excellent hypothetical.	hifiguy	May 2012	#1
Though in the Muskie hypothetical, that would put two "Northeasterners" on the ticket	villager	May 2012	#2
'Let's put the jam on the lower shelf	lovemydog	May 2012	#81
It's a good mantra. Sadly, the current owners/sponsors of the Democratic Party	villager	May 2012	#82
Didn't Muskie go kinda crazy at one point ...on a train?	zzaapp	May 2012	#11
That was in 1972 when he was running for Prez.	hifiguy	May 2012	#13
Thanks for clearing that up.	zzaapp	May 2012	#18
no.	HiPointDem	May 2012	#15
When Muskie was the demoratic front runner in 1972	lovemydog	May 2012	#17
UNFAIR	zzaapp	May 2012	#21
yes, another example of the inanity	lovemydog	May 2012	#27
Unfortunately, Muskie was also an alcoholic.	avebury	May 2012	#62
Was Jerry Brown in office then?	zzaapp	May 2012	#3
No but his father Pat Brown would have been a good choice. See below.	yellowcanine	May 2012	#7
Pat Brown would have been an excellent choice	goclark	May 2012	#25
Pat Brown had just lost to Raygun at that point	RFKHumphreyObama	May 2012	#79
Jerry was first elected Gov of Cali in '74 IIRC.	hifiguy	May 2012	#8
Thanks, wasn't sure of the dates.	zzaapp	May 2012	#9
He Was All Of Thirty	DemocratSinceBirth	May 2012	#84
I've got it !!! Hunter Thompson.	zzaapp	May 2012	#4
Henry B. Gonzales	broiles	May 2012	#5
that would have been a great choice. gonzalez's work was the first time i got a clue about	HiPointDem	May 2012	#16
'González was referred to as a "communist" in 1986	lovemydog	May 2012	#38
Pat Brown might have been an inspired choice.	yellowcanine	May 2012	#6
Good thoughts, but note that Brown had lost the governship to St. Ronnie in '66	villager	May 2012	#12
Yes that would have been one thing against having Brown as VP. But beyond California, Brown	yellowcanine	May 2012	#37
Brown lost to Ronnie Reagan by a million votes in 1966--so doubtful.	WI_DEM	May 2012	#28
How about Jesse Jackson...too young?	zzaapp	May 2012	#10
Probably too young	lovemydog	May 2012	#19
I need to start checking dates before posting. lol	zzaapp	May 2012	#20
Too young, and too soon--RFK would not have selected a black or female VP	WI_DEM	May 2012	#29
I Presume He Wanted To Win	DemocratSinceBirth	May 2012	#85
I first thought southerner	Capt. Obvious	May 2012	#14
But RFK was strongly in favor of civil rights	lovemydog	May 2012	#22
Oh, I'm sure they hated each other	Capt. Obvious	May 2012	#24
USAF General Curtis "Bomb 'em Back To the Stone Age" LeMay.	hifiguy	May 2012	#30
yeah, LeMay	lovemydog	May 2012	#39
I think you mean Curtis LeMay.	craigmatic	May 2012	#36
Come on, RFK would never have selected George Wallace	WI_DEM	May 2012	#26
Are you sure that he didn't mean George Wallace, the black comedian?	zzaapp	May 2012	#31
well then that is possible. But I think Bill Cosby would have been more universally	WI_DEM	May 2012	#33
George Carlin?	zzaapp	May 2012	#35
If it would get him the White House	Capt. Obvious	May 2012	#34
I doubt a RFK/Wallace ticket would even win	WI_DEM	May 2012	#45
No effin way. The Southern Strategy didn't kick in until 1972. It was a response to Wallace in	yellowcanine	May 2012	#44
This thread is all about hypotheticals - I gave mine	Capt. Obvious	May 2012	#53
Even for a hypothetical it is a bridge too far. The old South hated RFK. They would have swung to	yellowcanine	May 2012	#61
Not Shriver (family), Not McCarthy (Catholic) not Clark (LBJ's Attorney General)	WI_DEM	May 2012	#23
RFK wouldn't have won the nod in '68 because LBJ wouldn't have allowed it.	craigmatic	May 2012	#32
Actually Johnson did a lot to try and help HHH win	WI_DEM	May 2012	#41
You're right overtly LBJ did alot for HHH but behind the scenes he believed HHH was disloyal.	craigmatic	May 2012	#51
Great points	lovemydog	May 2012	#49
You had to have brass balls to try to blackmail LBJ.	hifiguy	May 2012	#60
Whatever bad traits he had, LBJ was a real Democrat and would NOT have backed NIXON	UTUSN	May 2012	#54
I like LBJ too but politicians have been known to buck party loyalty in private.	craigmatic	May 2012	#57
It's not a matter of "liking LBJ" but somebody of his party accomplishment would be like FDR turning	UTUSN	May 2012	#74
Are you saying that, even after he won the California Democratic Primary and	coalition_unwilling	May 2012	#66
I'm saying exactly that.	craigmatic	May 2012	#75
Everything you write is true. However, RFK's victory in	coalition_unwilling	May 2012	#76
His Ruthlessness Is What Made Him Appealing	DemocratSinceBirth	May 2012	#86
I beg to disagree. His ruthlessness that had morphed into	coalition_unwilling	May 2012	#87
But His Affinity For The Underdog And Being Ruthless Or Tough	DemocratSinceBirth	May 2012	#88
McGovern would have balanced the ticket nicely . . .	markpkessinger	May 2012	#40
McGovern was a conservative?????	WI_DEM	May 2012	#42
Yes, as a matter of fact . . .	markpkessinger	May 2012	#43
And McGovern was a WWII vet. Not that it helped him in 1972.	yellowcanine	May 2012	#47
Indeed...	markpkessinger	May 2012	#50
Sure doesn't sound like a moderate/conservative democrat....	WI_DEM	May 2012	#55
What you're not getting ...	markpkessinger	May 2012	#58
You bet. There were Republicans like Ed Brooke, Jacob Javits,	hifiguy	May 2012	#67
+1 n/t	markpkessinger	May 2012	#73
One can argue pretty convincingly that, pre-1972, Nelson Rockefeller was to the left of Carter,	coalition_unwilling	May 2012	#68
One can certainly make that argument, and credibly so ...	markpkessinger	May 2012	#72
Shows how far to the right we've slid, n'est ce pas?	markpkessinger	May 2012	#46
Stuart Symington. Senator from MO.	trackfan	May 2012	#48
That is a first rate surmise.	hifiguy	May 2012	#63
Excellent choice. I too had forgotten Symington, whose reputation	coalition_unwilling	May 2012	#69
John Connally would have been an interesting choice but probably too much of a hawk	yellowcanine	May 2012	#52
CONNALY had already declared independence from LBJ & by the time of the JFK trip to Dallas	UTUSN	May 2012	#59
The Texans were all fighting each other but they also all would make nice if it meant	yellowcanine	May 2012	#64
Wait a minute, the topic is WHO RFK would have picked.	UTUSN	May 2012	#71
RFK still needed LBJ to at least be somewhat neutral. As for Connoly, he was a political chameleon	yellowcanine	May 2012	#77
Bwa-ha-ha. Reminded me of an old joke about Connally's latter-day	coalition_unwilling	May 2012	#70
If it had been a brokered convention, it probably would have been HHH.	yellowcanine	May 2012	#56
My last word is that the premise of the OP is wrong. It would have been HHH/RFK had RFK	yellowcanine	May 2012	#65
Terry Sanford or George Smathers	RFKHumphreyObama	May 2012	#78
That having been said	RFKHumphreyObama	May 2012	#80
I'd have been thrilled with a McCarthy/RFK ticket. But, we got Humpty.	Tierra_y_Libertad	May 2012	#83

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