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In the discussion thread: Nurse refuses student inhaler during asthma attack [View all]

Response to PatSeg (Reply #101)

Sat May 26, 2012, 12:11 AM

roguevalley (32,811 posts)

150. you and me both. My sister-in-law's sweet brother died of an

asthma attack when he was nineteen. Had no money, died. Left a nineteen year old widow eight months pregnant.

I loved dennis.

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179 replies	Author	Time	Post
Nurse refuses student inhaler during asthma attack [View all]	alp227	May 2012	OP
ABSOLUTELY agree with Turley here.	elleng	May 2012	#1
me too -- also emailing the principal at --->>> SHFREEMA@volusia.k12.fl.us	nashville_brook	May 2012	#57
That's nasty...	FarPoint	May 2012	#2
+1. She was thinking about her job and not her patient.	freshwest	May 2012	#9
Any child with the ability to dial 9-1-1 could have filled in for her that day	Shampoobra	May 2012	#79
Why did they not phone 911?	tsuki	May 2012	#139
Even if the school nurse believed she could not administer it...	jberryhill	May 2012	#3
+1.	freshwest	May 2012	#10
Excellent response. nt	TBF	May 2012	#19
Anybody who knows an asthma patient knows you're right	Mimosa	May 2012	#107
I agree. 911 should have been called. nt	tsuki	May 2012	#141
This is infuriating. That nurse should be fired. Why the hell didn't she call 911?	pnwmom	May 2012	#4
She should not just be fired, she should lose any license she has to practice.	FiveGoodMen	May 2012	#37
standing up for school nurses	SCantiGOP	May 2012	#116
They are so sued!	longship	May 2012	#5
I hope so. nt	pnwmom	May 2012	#6
Right.	Igel	Jun 2012	#171
So it's the parents fault?	atreides1	Aug 2012	#177
Another fine example of Zero Tolerance policies run amok	GObamaGO	May 2012	#7
i have a mild asthma	dembotoz	May 2012	#8
If she wasn't going to give him his inhaler, the "nurse" should have call 911	notadmblnd	May 2012	#11
This woman should lose her state license.	PDJane	May 2012	#12
She should face criminal charges.	LeftyMom	May 2012	#17
That's a little drastic,,,,	FarPoint	May 2012	#26
Watching a young person go into a full-blown asthma attack	PDJane	May 2012	#27
We have yet to hear the entire story...	FarPoint	May 2012	#29
Since the office still had the inhaler several days later	LadyHawkAZ	May 2012	#76
The school had the inhaler for how many days?	LiberalFighter	May 2012	#109
This message was self-deleted by its author	CreekDog	May 2012	#105
you never had an asthma attack. I am guessing	roguevalley	May 2012	#71
Exactly	PatSeg	May 2012	#101
you and me both. My sister-in-law's sweet brother died of an	roguevalley	May 2012	#150
That is so sad	PatSeg	May 2012	#152
So, a prescription medication with the patient's name on it	hifiguy	May 2012	#13
Gomer had some sense.	GoneOffShore	May 2012	#15
Well, the instructions were on the bottom so...	Cave_Johnson	May 2012	#68
It sounds like they got the mom on the phone, and told the mom to come to the school...	Ian David	May 2012	#14
at the very least	SemperEadem	May 2012	#123
She had comments up on one of the articles	LadyHawkAZ	May 2012	#130
Yeah, some people in that school are in deep shit. n/t	Ian David	May 2012	#135
My child was having an asthma attack at school	sense	May 2012	#16
I wish I could say I disagree with your observation,	truedelphi	May 2012	#21
My daughter goes to a public school, and every time we talk to her principal...	Ian David	May 2012	#136
As a nurse	bluedeminredstate	May 2012	#18
I was thinking the same thing... the heck with corporate guidelines	w8liftinglady	May 2012	#32
This message was self-deleted by its author	FarPoint	May 2012	#35
For starters, confiscating the inhaler was ridiculous	lolly	May 2012	#39
THIS	GObamaGO	May 2012	#45
When I was in High School, an emergency inhaler was one of two prescription drugs...	Ian David	May 2012	#138
For someone concerned with waiting for all the facts...	liberalmuse	May 2012	#54
"waiting for the facts" usually means "I've made my decision and I'm going to guess The Truth."	Posteritatis	May 2012	#90
This message was self-deleted by its author	CreekDog	May 2012	#111
Yeah	LadyHawkAZ	May 2012	#65
The story just does not feel like we have all the facts.	FarPoint	May 2012	#67
My guess	LadyHawkAZ	May 2012	#75
Really? If you don't have all the facts, then why are you saying the student was a faker?	CreekDog	May 2012	#112
You say not so fast, we need facts, but ---FarPoint: 35. I think the teen went into drama mode..	CreekDog	May 2012	#113
Well maybe because	LaurenG	Aug 2012	#173
well they say that these days we'll have several careers in our	CreekDog	Aug 2012	#175
Here we go again... Another authoritarian blaming the victim.	backscatter712	May 2012	#69
Ahhhh....	FarPoint	May 2012	#70
This message was self-deleted by its author	LaurenG	Aug 2012	#174
Thanks Dr. Frist	CreekDog	May 2012	#106
you've never had an asthma attack	SemperEadem	May 2012	#124
An asthma attack is not drama mode.	LiberalAndProud	May 2012	#164
she literally locked him in a room as he collapsed...locked him up!!	nashville_brook	May 2012	#59
That is so right.	Chemisse	May 2012	#149
Even a child would know to call 911 if you see	TBF	May 2012	#20
My daughter keeps a spare inhaler hidden in her backpack for just such stupidity.	JoePhilly	May 2012	#22
that's really smart of you!	renate	May 2012	#30
I grew up with asthma as a kid ... before inhalers were being used widely.	JoePhilly	May 2012	#36
Much better nurse than that robot in the OP. (nt)	Posteritatis	May 2012	#33
+ 40 Billion	SmileyRose	May 2012	#34
I let my kids in high school	marlakay	May 2012	#23
I'm glad the parents are suing over that kind of malice.	Posteritatis	May 2012	#24
There were differences in the last situation discussed here	jberryhill	May 2012	#25
Tort action and medical malpractice.	nadinbrzezinski	May 2012	#28
Looks like common sense has flown out the window in some of these cases!	secondwind	May 2012	#31
They must sue. And the nurse should lose her license.	McCamy Taylor	May 2012	#38
I'm a retired nurse - saving	emilyg	May 2012	#40
Please don't hold it against me	skydive forever	May 2012	#41
This nurse makes Nurse Ratched look motherly	Smilo	May 2012	#42
We don't have all the facts...	FarPoint	May 2012	#43
FarPoint, why are you going to such lengths to defend this person?	bupkus	May 2012	#46
This message was self-deleted by its author	FarPoint	May 2012	#62
Since you ignored everything,	Occulus	May 2012	#80
OP is not "defending this person."	treestar	May 2012	#89
FP's presuming the worst of the victim/victim's mother. (nt)	Posteritatis	May 2012	#91
That article is almost entirely quotes of Rudi and his mother	treestar	May 2012	#97
Thank you....	FarPoint	May 2012	#92
Why do you imply that the teen was not in distress?	intheflow	May 2012	#95
You have mentioned that upthread	GObamaGO	May 2012	#47
Panic can bring on an acute attack--and can do so suddenly.	tblue37	May 2012	#83
I would say the phrase "happened conveniently" isn't a particularly impartial way...	CBHagman	May 2012	#146
When my son broke his wrist, the nurse sent him back to class.	silverweb	May 2012	#44
That's awful!	peace13	Aug 2012	#178
Terrible.	silverweb	Aug 2012	#179
My daughter has asthma and the same thing happened to her during her freshman year. The school	firenewt	May 2012	#48
I sincerely hope they sue	LadyHawkAZ	May 2012	#49
The problem is not just this nurse, sadly.	Odin2005	May 2012	#58
THis is a huge problem	Mojorabbit	May 2012	#87
One question that bears asking:	wial	May 2012	#50
Oh, don't you know? It's a DRUUUUUG	Lydia Leftcoast	May 2012	#53
I'd say no reason not to administer the inhaler...	FarPoint	May 2012	#64
I'm sorry--I have to say this, FarPoint.	tblue37	May 2012	#86
This message was self-deleted by its author	FarPoint	May 2012	#88
BTW - The word you want is "its"	COLGATE4	May 2012	#98
bwah ha ha!!	SemperEadem	May 2012	#127
communication is key	SemperEadem	May 2012	#126
No, I have to disagree with your final comemnt.	tblue37	May 2012	#151
They're there and their	BlueToTheBone	May 2012	#94
I used to volunteer at a radio station that was located on a high school campus	Lydia Leftcoast	May 2012	#51
apparently they have a zero-tolerance policy...for rationality	nashville_brook	May 2012	#52
This is why people who say "I was just following the rules"...	Odin2005	May 2012	#55
People who say "I was just following the rules"...	FiveGoodMen	May 2012	#163
They were covering their asses at the expense of the student...	cynatnite	May 2012	#56
If I was that nurse - I would be willing to get fired for giving him his inhaler.	jillan	May 2012	#60
Florida	The Wizard	May 2012	#61
Of course it was in Florida!	midnight armadillo	May 2012	#78
this is because 504 plans are about filling out the paper work and putting it in the drawer.	mopinko	May 2012	#63
My cousin died during an asthma attack.	Swede	May 2012	#66
Time for the regularly-scheduled daily hate.	HiPointDem	May 2012	#72
interesting. story in WESH has comments by the mother in the comment section	w8liftinglady	May 2012	#73
WTF? From one of the comments, and posted publicly	liberalhistorian	May 2012	#77
Shame on Nurse Hilda	Blue Owl	May 2012	#74
OMG. If that had happened to my son, who has truly severe asthma, he would have	tblue37	May 2012	#81
That's gonna hurt a little bit when the Board of Nursing makes its ruling on it	Horse with no Name	May 2012	#82
I've served on Peer Review	Horse with no Name	May 2012	#85
Florida nurses are subject to discipline by the Florida Board of Nursing.	AnotherMcIntosh	May 2012	#84
Here is and update by MSNBC...	FarPoint	May 2012	#93
Yes, the school backpedeling and saying it wasn't so bad is proof they did the right thing.	intheflow	May 2012	#96
The school administrator is at fault, not the nurse. They found the kid ON THE FLOOR in his office.	SunSeeker	May 2012	#121
On a related topic, why don't	BadgerKid	May 2012	#99
Can't teach?	GeorgeGist	May 2012	#100
The nurse was following state law	obamanut2012	May 2012	#102
Link to Volusia County info	obamanut2012	May 2012	#103
Thank you.	proud2BlibKansan	May 2012	#104
Thanks for the cool head...	AnneD	May 2012	#110
If you have a profession where you need a license to practice it	obamanut2012	May 2012	#133
The more I hear about this....	AnneD	May 2012	#140
Good info. I'm fine with taking back my other posts if this was not an emergency.	CreekDog	May 2012	#114
Great research...	FarPoint	May 2012	#148
As a school nurse....	AnneD	May 2012	#108
I question whether or not this school 'nurse' was actually a nurse	azurnoir	May 2012	#118
I do believe I read that...	AnneD	May 2012	#119
what I meant about the prescription label was that the medication was clearly prescribed by an MD	azurnoir	May 2012	#120
No...	AnneD	May 2012	#128
your blaming the parent? there was a form on file it was deemed outdated	azurnoir	May 2012	#131
Implied is not actual......	AnneD	May 2012	#137
giving shots is different isn't it? and as a CMA I am quite experienced	azurnoir	May 2012	#142
I am not sure about your state laws but....	AnneD	May 2012	#157
my scope of pratice is determined by the MD	azurnoir	May 2012	#160
It is true....	AnneD	May 2012	#162
No, it wasn;t implied -- state law requires a signed consent as well as	obamanut2012	May 2012	#143
there was a signed form on file it was deemed outdated	azurnoir	May 2012	#145
There was no current signed form nor doctor acknowledgement of the script	obamanut2012	May 2012	#153
so you defend the so called 'nurse' watching the kid collapse? and that's ethical in your mind?	azurnoir	May 2012	#156
Anne, I don't doubt that the legal framework is a minefield.	LiberalAndProud	May 2012	#165
This is why I question the story....	AnneD	May 2012	#166
I needed to be reminded of how we are informed by our own experiences.	LiberalAndProud	May 2012	#167
This is why I have been so adamant on this thread.....	AnneD	May 2012	#169
The schools around here only have an RN or LPN on duty two days a week	GObamaGO	May 2012	#144
She is an LPN and she was following state law	obamanut2012	May 2012	#134
The posters/nurses who say they care more about their licenses than people's lives...	just1voice	May 2012	#115
I worked damn hard for my license	AnneD	May 2012	#125
what would you have done in this instance?	SemperEadem	May 2012	#129
No...	AnneD	May 2012	#132
Also, it is the highest-rank available administraor who calls 911	obamanut2012	May 2012	#155
Thank you for your Nursing Service.	FarPoint	May 2012	#147
Oh yes, all the nurses have said that	obamanut2012	May 2012	#154
It take a special type of person.....	AnneD	May 2012	#158
They should expect a lawsuit no matter which choice they made,	BanzaiBonnie	May 2012	#117
so instead of dialing 911, you just sat there and watched the child have the attack?	SemperEadem	May 2012	#122
Sick woman.	BlueIris	May 2012	#159
Minor functionary automoton without the good sense or spine to make the correct choice of action.	Stinky The Clown	May 2012	#161
We like to set policy by lawsuits in this country	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#168
I don't blame lawyers....	AnneD	May 2012	#170
Good Samaratin or Force Majeure law would have protected emergency action by nurse	Mimosa	Jun 2012	#172
It really amazes me the stupidity of human beings	Drale	Aug 2012	#176

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