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hifiguy

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63. That is a first rate surmise.
Thu May 24, 2012, 05:08 PM
May 2012

I'd forgotten about Symington, who had been around DC for a long time.

A question about RFK [View all] lovemydog May 2012 OP
That is an excellent hypothetical. hifiguy May 2012 #1
Though in the Muskie hypothetical, that would put two "Northeasterners" on the ticket villager May 2012 #2
'Let's put the jam on the lower shelf lovemydog May 2012 #81
It's a good mantra. Sadly, the current owners/sponsors of the Democratic Party villager May 2012 #82
Didn't Muskie go kinda crazy at one point ...on a train? zzaapp May 2012 #11
That was in 1972 when he was running for Prez. hifiguy May 2012 #13
Thanks for clearing that up. zzaapp May 2012 #18
no. HiPointDem May 2012 #15
When Muskie was the demoratic front runner in 1972 lovemydog May 2012 #17
UNFAIR zzaapp May 2012 #21
yes, another example of the inanity lovemydog May 2012 #27
Unfortunately, Muskie was also an alcoholic. avebury May 2012 #62
Was Jerry Brown in office then? zzaapp May 2012 #3
No but his father Pat Brown would have been a good choice. See below. yellowcanine May 2012 #7
Pat Brown would have been an excellent choice goclark May 2012 #25
Pat Brown had just lost to Raygun at that point RFKHumphreyObama May 2012 #79
Jerry was first elected Gov of Cali in '74 IIRC. hifiguy May 2012 #8
Thanks, wasn't sure of the dates. zzaapp May 2012 #9
He Was All Of Thirty DemocratSinceBirth May 2012 #84
I've got it !!! Hunter Thompson. zzaapp May 2012 #4
Henry B. Gonzales broiles May 2012 #5
that would have been a great choice. gonzalez's work was the first time i got a clue about HiPointDem May 2012 #16
'González was referred to as a "communist" in 1986 lovemydog May 2012 #38
Pat Brown might have been an inspired choice. yellowcanine May 2012 #6
Good thoughts, but note that Brown had lost the governship to St. Ronnie in '66 villager May 2012 #12
Yes that would have been one thing against having Brown as VP. But beyond California, Brown yellowcanine May 2012 #37
Brown lost to Ronnie Reagan by a million votes in 1966--so doubtful. WI_DEM May 2012 #28
How about Jesse Jackson...too young? zzaapp May 2012 #10
Probably too young lovemydog May 2012 #19
I need to start checking dates before posting. lol zzaapp May 2012 #20
Too young, and too soon--RFK would not have selected a black or female VP WI_DEM May 2012 #29
I Presume He Wanted To Win DemocratSinceBirth May 2012 #85
I first thought southerner Capt. Obvious May 2012 #14
But RFK was strongly in favor of civil rights lovemydog May 2012 #22
Oh, I'm sure they hated each other Capt. Obvious May 2012 #24
USAF General Curtis "Bomb 'em Back To the Stone Age" LeMay. hifiguy May 2012 #30
yeah, LeMay lovemydog May 2012 #39
I think you mean Curtis LeMay. craigmatic May 2012 #36
Come on, RFK would never have selected George Wallace WI_DEM May 2012 #26
Are you sure that he didn't mean George Wallace, the black comedian? zzaapp May 2012 #31
well then that is possible. But I think Bill Cosby would have been more universally WI_DEM May 2012 #33
George Carlin? zzaapp May 2012 #35
If it would get him the White House Capt. Obvious May 2012 #34
I doubt a RFK/Wallace ticket would even win WI_DEM May 2012 #45
No effin way. The Southern Strategy didn't kick in until 1972. It was a response to Wallace in yellowcanine May 2012 #44
This thread is all about hypotheticals - I gave mine Capt. Obvious May 2012 #53
Even for a hypothetical it is a bridge too far. The old South hated RFK. They would have swung to yellowcanine May 2012 #61
Not Shriver (family), Not McCarthy (Catholic) not Clark (LBJ's Attorney General) WI_DEM May 2012 #23
RFK wouldn't have won the nod in '68 because LBJ wouldn't have allowed it. craigmatic May 2012 #32
Actually Johnson did a lot to try and help HHH win WI_DEM May 2012 #41
You're right overtly LBJ did alot for HHH but behind the scenes he believed HHH was disloyal. craigmatic May 2012 #51
Great points lovemydog May 2012 #49
You had to have brass balls to try to blackmail LBJ. hifiguy May 2012 #60
Whatever bad traits he had, LBJ was a real Democrat and would NOT have backed NIXON UTUSN May 2012 #54
I like LBJ too but politicians have been known to buck party loyalty in private. craigmatic May 2012 #57
It's not a matter of "liking LBJ" but somebody of his party accomplishment would be like FDR turning UTUSN May 2012 #74
Are you saying that, even after he won the California Democratic Primary and coalition_unwilling May 2012 #66
I'm saying exactly that. craigmatic May 2012 #75
Everything you write is true. However, RFK's victory in coalition_unwilling May 2012 #76
His Ruthlessness Is What Made Him Appealing DemocratSinceBirth May 2012 #86
I beg to disagree. His ruthlessness that had morphed into coalition_unwilling May 2012 #87
But His Affinity For The Underdog And Being Ruthless Or Tough DemocratSinceBirth May 2012 #88
McGovern would have balanced the ticket nicely . . . markpkessinger May 2012 #40
McGovern was a conservative????? WI_DEM May 2012 #42
Yes, as a matter of fact . . . markpkessinger May 2012 #43
And McGovern was a WWII vet. Not that it helped him in 1972. yellowcanine May 2012 #47
Indeed... markpkessinger May 2012 #50
Sure doesn't sound like a moderate/conservative democrat.... WI_DEM May 2012 #55
What you're not getting ... markpkessinger May 2012 #58
You bet. There were Republicans like Ed Brooke, Jacob Javits, hifiguy May 2012 #67
+1 n/t markpkessinger May 2012 #73
One can argue pretty convincingly that, pre-1972, Nelson Rockefeller was to the left of Carter, coalition_unwilling May 2012 #68
One can certainly make that argument, and credibly so ... markpkessinger May 2012 #72
Shows how far to the right we've slid, n'est ce pas? markpkessinger May 2012 #46
Stuart Symington. Senator from MO. trackfan May 2012 #48
That is a first rate surmise. hifiguy May 2012 #63
Excellent choice. I too had forgotten Symington, whose reputation coalition_unwilling May 2012 #69
John Connally would have been an interesting choice but probably too much of a hawk yellowcanine May 2012 #52
CONNALY had already declared independence from LBJ & by the time of the JFK trip to Dallas UTUSN May 2012 #59
The Texans were all fighting each other but they also all would make nice if it meant yellowcanine May 2012 #64
Wait a minute, the topic is WHO RFK would have picked. UTUSN May 2012 #71
RFK still needed LBJ to at least be somewhat neutral. As for Connoly, he was a political chameleon yellowcanine May 2012 #77
Bwa-ha-ha. Reminded me of an old joke about Connally's latter-day coalition_unwilling May 2012 #70
If it had been a brokered convention, it probably would have been HHH. yellowcanine May 2012 #56
My last word is that the premise of the OP is wrong. It would have been HHH/RFK had RFK yellowcanine May 2012 #65
Terry Sanford or George Smathers RFKHumphreyObama May 2012 #78
That having been said RFKHumphreyObama May 2012 #80
I'd have been thrilled with a McCarthy/RFK ticket. But, we got Humpty. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2012 #83
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