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In reply to the discussion: Adults that spoil kids aggravate me [View all]Sarah Ibarruri
(21,043 posts)22. I get it perfectly when grandpas spoil their grandkids. You're right, spoiling is a grandpa's job
But a MOM's? Nope. These moms are just... well, incredibly aggravating!! They shape their kids into little monsters.
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LOL! I'm with you there. These parents think our property belongs to their KIDS! nt
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#2
I taught for 27 years and I wish I could relate to you all the parental bitching
roguevalley
Dec 2011
#259
W is an excellent example of a BRAT that grew up without anyone stopping his stupid behavior nt
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#426
:) I don't mind kids, but oh my gosh, there's nothing worse than a brat!
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#15
As someone who has worked at nightclubs and a sunday school class... I'll second that. n/t
musicblind
Jan 2012
#655
Not to mention the highly popular 'spoiled brat epidemic' meme circulating amongst the hard right.
AverageJoe90
Dec 2011
#437
This is true. And kids only learn what they see, hear, are taught from their surroundings, and what
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#202
Did you read her whole post? She mixes up misbehavior and perfectly normal behavior
pnwmom
Dec 2011
#105
It never bothered me when my friends' children thought our conversation was interesting enough
pnwmom
Dec 2011
#306
"Parents that allow their kids to sit and listen to adult conversations " is ok with you? Since you
uppityperson
Dec 2011
#108
I doubt "on everything" but agree, we do learn from our parent's mistakes
uppityperson
Dec 2011
#134
I agree. There are adults that just don't understand why everyone is avoiding them, and it's
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#204
I think the kid who bothers to answer the phone -- rather than sending the adults
pnwmom
Dec 2011
#336
I think her OP was pretty clear about the difference between parents in general and rude ones
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
Dec 2011
#68
"Parents that allow their kids to sit and listen to adult conversations" is about a rude child?
uppityperson
Dec 2011
#90
I assumed "adult conversations" would be something about someone having a drinking problem....
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
Dec 2011
#158
I assumed "adult conversations" were conversations between adults. In which case I'd let my
uppityperson
Dec 2011
#160
There's nothing wrong as long as those conversations don't take a dark turn
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
Dec 2011
#164
Exactly. And if a child insists on remaining with the adults, the adults are held to a child
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#401
The rule at our house was "Keep quiet unless you know something about the subject."
eridani
Dec 2011
#198
The problem is that many think they know something when they don't know a thing.
kwassa
Dec 2011
#234
Agreed, (and that would eliminate some on this thread from speaking of children.)
11 Bravo
Dec 2011
#470
I'm guessing the kid didn't want to hear her interpretation of the Kama Sutra either
CreekDog
Dec 2011
#241
Really? Even if the conversation was for adults, like your friend's sex life issues?
onion belt
Dec 2011
#436
Not gonna argue with a poster who's posting privl has been revoked. Esp not one
uppityperson
Dec 2011
#469
I don't think you read her checklist carefully. Not all her points are reasonable.
pnwmom
Dec 2011
#184
Then the feeling is mutual. I don't want to be around a person who thinks children
pnwmom
Dec 2011
#339
"Parents that allow their kids to sit and listen to adult conversations" is noisily, badly behaved
uppityperson
Dec 2011
#157
I'd forgotten all about how some parents allowed their kids to ruin an eating-out experience for
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#207
Thanks! Maybe parents of ill-behaved kids are the most angry at those of us who refused to have
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#209
Private hobby? Raising the next generation to be functioning adults is everyone's business
eridani
Dec 2011
#210
Not at all. I understand childhood is not adulthood, but to inflict bad child behavior on other
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#208
Well said. I would also add that they ("idiot parents") don't usually post mindless
Fool Count
Dec 2011
#375
So if someone's brat is screaming his head off in a restaurant, *I* should leave?
Abin Sur
Dec 2011
#106
Since it's more likely that you'll find loud, obnoxious adults interrupting your quiet dinner ...
HuckleB
Dec 2011
#516
Thank You For Your Decision To Not Have Children. It Was Obviously The Correct One. (n/t)
Paladin
Dec 2011
#135
True. Maybe these kids drive these parents so insane that's why they're pawning them off on
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#11
You're right. I think parents of bratty kids who spoil them, are doing a 'fuck you' to the world.
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#212
Aaah, I see you've met the spawn of Satan too. Hmm... spawn gets around!
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#13
Sorry. Mis-typing. No, PB gets out chewing gum. I think it's the oil or something.
Ineeda
Dec 2011
#29
"To many people without kids, ALL kids are brats." Or most of those on the hard right.
AverageJoe90
Dec 2011
#438
I think you worded it well. A lot of this thread comes off as bigotry towards children.
musicblind
Jan 2012
#656
I get it perfectly when grandpas spoil their grandkids. You're right, spoiling is a grandpa's job
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#22
I don't usually see a lot of kids like you're describing, but I did last Thursday
tammywammy
Dec 2011
#25
Yes, I don't get why these parents insist that kids be in inappropriate settings...
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#26
On Christmas Day, a child's "appropriate place" is with her parents. If you want the parents,
pnwmom
Dec 2011
#315
Exactly. It would be incredibly disrespectful to have a child running, playing, screaming while the
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#213
Inconsolable Weeping is not an appropriate adult behavior at funerals either
jberryhill
Dec 2011
#235
Well, most often being inconsolable at a funeral of someone you're mourning deeply isn't a choice,
polly7
Dec 2011
#295
I'd rather a child playing than an adult inconsolably weeping at my funeral thank you very much.
uppityperson
Dec 2011
#257
I agree -- except that this was a family Christmas event, so I think all children should be welcomed
pnwmom
Dec 2011
#100
the thing. a person who does not have kids may be the ones to blow something very small into a HUGE
seabeyond
Dec 2011
#143
my oldest taught me it is true, the feel of an insult. by 3 or 4 he would look to me when an adult
seabeyond
Dec 2011
#155
Your parents with monetary problems are providing what the kids need to succeed in life
tpsbmam
Dec 2011
#411
Exactly. Some kids are awesome. Some are something out of a nightmare, because their parents
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#214
I agree, the brat talking loudly on the cell phone has a *far* worse impact on dining experience
uppityperson
Dec 2011
#107
Cute. Are you actually arguing that an adult speaking loudly on cell phone is
Abin Sur
Dec 2011
#110
Yes, it certainly can be. Are you arguing that an adult screaming on a cell phone is
uppityperson
Dec 2011
#114
Or maybe it's just the opposite. As soon as they're out from under their parents' iron thumbs
pnwmom
Dec 2011
#364
the thing about it is, it could be a wonderful child having a bad moment and there is NO grace at
seabeyond
Dec 2011
#299
Admittedly I don't know the kid in question, but I think you're confusing two issues:
LeftishBrit
Dec 2011
#36
I agree. Children are enjoyable human beings who need to interact with other human beings.
pnwmom
Dec 2011
#93
not to mention overstimulation on a day like christmas for many reasons and the age of the child. nt
seabeyond
Dec 2011
#41
There may be no broad blush complaints, but there are misguided and intolerant complaints.
pnwmom
Dec 2011
#189
Yes there are. I have two visiting my home right now. My nieces kids. She is a great parent.
Puglover
Dec 2011
#584
Actually, the OP was quite clear that the rant was about permissive parents, NOT about the children
distantearlywarning
Dec 2011
#64
I honestly don't care how parents raise their kids, as long as their children aren't disruptive.
Abin Sur
Dec 2011
#51
Because it's OK for the OP to post an emotional tirade but not for anyone to respond with one?
abelenkpe
Dec 2011
#448
I grew up in a college town and my parents, like others, did a lot of entertaining.
pnwmom
Dec 2011
#324
I know. I ought to have said something about the little brat. After reading the posts in here...
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#218
Next time a kid does that to you spit in the kid's face and make kid cry for hours.
alp227
Dec 2011
#278
That's part of the problem today. I think some moms (dads sometimes, tho less so), feel their child
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#403
4 yr old niece sittin at table with all the adults said something snotty to mom
seabeyond
Dec 2011
#422
I just hope they are not the kind of people that take their children to fancy restraunts, etc...
Taitertots
Dec 2011
#265
The problem is that there are parents who do less than nothing to stop their misbehaving children
Taitertots
Dec 2011
#292
The OP is lumping spoiled children and normal children together, with her complaints
pnwmom
Dec 2011
#344
We don't know that they're happening, and we certainly don't know that they're happening very often.
HuckleB
Dec 2011
#491
I promise I'll never remain silent again around bratty kids and their charmed parents. nt
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#220
ThomThom, the only ones angry are the parents of bratty kids, and it's a tiny handful. The rest
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#225
wow. really? and you know everyone that disagrees. that they have kids? that their kids
seabeyond
Dec 2011
#297
If I knew one of my adult nieces was living at home, of course I'd invite her for a family dinner.
pnwmom
Dec 2011
#354
No. But I think it would be polite to invite any adult niece or nephew who's living with the parents
pnwmom
Dec 2011
#357
"Parents that allow their kids to sit and listen to adult conversations" WHAT? You don't want kids
uppityperson
Dec 2011
#86
You're right; there are some parents who are just dense when it comes to this stuff.
eShirl
Dec 2011
#96
Or maybe the kid really was a brat and his/her parents were indulgent and inconsiderate.
distantearlywarning
Dec 2011
#123
And also, this child-free Christmas lover takes exception to the statement
distantearlywarning
Dec 2011
#126
You don't have to see children on Christmas, but parents won't be leaving their kids on that day.
pnwmom
Dec 2011
#192
The problem with the OP is that she was also describing perfectly normal behavior
pnwmom
Dec 2011
#245
Excellent points! Reminded me that my sis has kids and she doesn't want to put up with other
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#227
We now have more children in our penal system than at any time in our history,
retread
Dec 2011
#112
that you could suggest a child be left out of Christmas day/dinner apart from its mom is heartless
CreekDog
Dec 2011
#131
Adults that wants kids hidden away while are spoiled themselves aggravate me
uppityperson
Dec 2011
#137
i was thinking of the adult that is troublesome, boring, obnoxious, show off, ect.... myself. nt
seabeyond
Dec 2011
#151
People who want no noise, no interruptions and no messes should stay at home.
PassingFair
Dec 2011
#138
Starting to get a sense that you regret your choices and are trying to justify them
Broderick
Dec 2011
#141
Isn't it funny? And doesn't it become clear by the posts who is a parent of a complete brat, and
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#228
Since it is clear to you, am I a parent of a complete brat or one who doesn't inflict my brat on
uppityperson
Dec 2011
#258
You're right -- babies and children need interactions with a variety of people.
pnwmom
Dec 2011
#203
I didn't lie. I told the truth about my choices. Yet you think I have no right to make choices
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#366
I spend a fair amount of time around kids, but I've never encountered most of what you mention
fishwax
Dec 2011
#266
Being a "part-time father", my situation is halfway between full-time parent and childless
steve2470
Dec 2011
#269
Hilarious is the fact that you haven't read through the responses to the moms that disagree with you
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#368
If I wanted to invite a child to my conversations, I would, as would you.
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#281
No, they're not called babysitters. They're called "people who treat children like the human beings
pnwmom
Dec 2011
#349
Yep, I'm familiar with that book -- that's the principle, backed by sound research
tpsbmam
Dec 2011
#594
I just reread your first post here and realized we have something else in common.
pnwmom
Dec 2011
#598
Here's the thing, why does it bug you so much that I live my life as I desire?
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#284
Thank you, mom and grandma! You're right that parents who do this are saying fuck you to others
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#367
Actually, what's really interesting in this is the reaction from certain parents
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#293
i think pretty much everyone of us parents agree, we dont want you around our kids. really
seabeyond
Dec 2011
#298
My child sitting quietly listening to adults talk=brat. Gotcha.Indeed, that IS my child and and glad
uppityperson
Dec 2011
#302
Children are naturally narcissistic, but it's something that they usually grow out of.
pnwmom
Dec 2011
#305
If memory serves, this type of rant is not uncommon with you. Frankly, it's tired.
FedUpWithIt All
Dec 2011
#326
With the move to the new DU, it's always helpful when posters remind us who they are.
MissB
Dec 2011
#328
Not if you allow your kid to visit other homes and be destructive, create a ruckus, interrupt, and
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#399
Exactly. I've noticed that many people who don't have kids just don't fucking get it. At ALL.
Warren DeMontague
Dec 2011
#473
I don't beg people to come to my house. I asked some people to a party. Those that came,
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#503
Someday, when you are still childless and collecting your Social Security checks,
pnwmom
Dec 2011
#351
??? So basically just let kids become wild animals because one day I will need them for something.
onion belt
Dec 2011
#432
Why what? You missed the entire point, which is that unloading a BAD kid on others is intolerable
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#370
True. Thanks. By the way, it wasn't just I that was upset. Others at the party came to me to
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#447
I have two daughters that are 7 and 6. I teach them to be polite and try to have good behavior.
Jennicut
Dec 2011
#372
As this thread demonstrates, children are most frequently ego extensions of their parents. nt
Romulox
Dec 2011
#378
I think very often they are. I do think some parents are overwhelmed by their own kids, and some
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#392
That wasn't the problem. The problem was that she watched her kid be a complete pest and did
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#398
Sure, there was another room, but I didn't expect the child to be hidden in there.
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#407
Thank you! I do have the solution, and this thread helped me arrive there. nt
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#421
I agree! It's unrealistic. I browsed through a book not long ago titled, I'm Not Your Friend; I'm
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#408
It definitely hit a nerve with those who 'saw' themselves in my description of the irresponsible
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#420
again. i dont agree. i tried to respond to your posts respectfully and with thought, though i
seabeyond
Dec 2011
#423
she was talking about the posters on this thread that disagree with her. you agreed with her.
seabeyond
Dec 2011
#433
Well, I recall you writing the other day that you don't really care if your kid smokes weed
onion belt
Dec 2011
#435
"really... really.... is childish" I wonder why she is so mad at the other children?
retread
Dec 2011
#444
please point out one post that states children should be "the center of attention 24/7"
seabeyond
Dec 2011
#427
There's a person who seemed to take offense at the statement about including kids in adult
onion belt
Dec 2011
#429
the point is, a couple people with no children, no experience with children, no parenting
seabeyond
Dec 2011
#471
Exactly! It's definitely not healthy even for the child. They grow up not socializing properly
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#428
Oh, god, not the "my fur babies are just the same as your human ones!!!!" crap again
Warren DeMontague
Dec 2011
#460
Yup! Apparently irresponsible parents think it's cool to have their brats annoy adults and kids
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#477
I notice that people without kids seem to think people with kids are endlessly preoccupied with them
Warren DeMontague
Dec 2011
#457
Oh I do. That's why she won't be invited next year. Are you volunteering to invite her to your
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#480
Translation: MY FRIENDS WITH KIDS REFUSE TO CONFORM TO MY DEMANDS ABOUT THEIR LIVES
Warren DeMontague
Dec 2011
#463
Me? I tried to do the woman a favor by inviting her. She apparently could care less about the rest
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#479
You don't understand why a single mother couldn't "leave the kid at home"
Warren DeMontague
Dec 2011
#482
Me and the entire group of people at the party. Well, the good thing is now she'll
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#478
I'd welcome her. I do not require that my friends, or their children...
FedUpWithIt All
Dec 2011
#624
And yet you think only she counts, and not me. I did her a favor, but in return, she allowed her
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#627
No, she didn't have to leave the child at home. But you're equating apples and oranges.
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#485
but then you went beyond just your situation to a list of rules for parents in parenting ALL
seabeyond
Dec 2011
#488
Nope. I was pretty shocked that she was fine with it and smiling. On the other hand...
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#498
I didn't. I try to be polite, and didn't want to embarrass her in front of others
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#502
LOL! Spaulding? More like Little Nosferatu. No, I expect parents to have respect for others
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#506
Okay, well, you're saying that your stuff was destroyed & your party fucked up.
Warren DeMontague
Dec 2011
#509
FYI - in case you don't know - the party is over and the brat is out of my and my guests' lives. :)
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#510
Every time I've had a party that's lasted for days, my place has been messed up
Warren DeMontague
Dec 2011
#522
ROFL! Okay, but now you're talking about an entirely different sort of 'party'
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#525
LOL! The ID you chose to use in DU pretty much says that about everything in life, doesn't it? nt
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#626
You can attempt to deflect with juvenile quips if you like. Your post stands as APPALLING.
FedUpWithIt All
Dec 2011
#629
I'm dead serious. Anyone with an ID like yours is making a statement: that he's fed up with all,
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#630
I don't care if you're an alien from another planet. Your ID tells what you think and feel.
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#633
You are correct. This post brought out lots of irresponsible parents with brats
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#487
How, exactly, would you have preferred this kid to be "fascinating"?
Warren DeMontague
Dec 2011
#499
There was nothing appealing about 'the kid' to anyone in attendance. There was a lot repulsive,
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#505
I'm wondering what your idea of a 'fascinating' kid at an adults party would be like
Warren DeMontague
Dec 2011
#507
I didn't expect him to be fascinating, but if he was going to demand the unpleasant attention of
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#508
I'm just really wondering how this all happened as a giant surprise to you.
Warren DeMontague
Dec 2011
#538
i am curious about the age. age matters. and not a mention. 5? 10? 16? lol. nt
seabeyond
Dec 2011
#513
Thank you. Doesn't it make you wonder why these certain parents are taking it so personally?
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#490
I had a different name on DU back then, and dropped it and signed up on a new email/new name
Whoa_Nelly
Dec 2011
#534
Let's look at the video from Christmas and see if the OP has a leg to stand on
AngryAmish
Dec 2011
#496
Excellent point for discussion! I wish you'd start a thread on this. However, beware.
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#523
In other words, you're choosing to ignore that sociology digs back into daily histories.
HuckleB
Dec 2011
#548
Oooh, if your kids are like those, I'm glad you're on the other side of a screen!!
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#561
I know adults that exhibit pretty much every one of those examples. Many were
NRaleighLiberal
Dec 2011
#576
You missed one tiny point. Bad behavior in kids is the PARENTS' responsibility
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#583
As a mom, my motto is, if your mom isn't on your side, nobody else will be.
JDPriestly
Dec 2011
#582
Are there no prisons? And the union workhouses, are they still in operation? nt
Snake Alchemist
Dec 2011
#599
Wow, that woman was a total nutjob. What's more, unsolicited touching is battery.
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#606
And according to your chosen ID, you're full of hogwash. Interesting! nt
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#631
If that's true, then it's like having a boil on one's neck and showing it off
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#615
Oh, so I'm supposed to be a fucking psychic and determine who might be an asshole responding to
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#637
And because people might have strong opinions I have to stfu about something
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#641
I would wager some here have stong opinions about adults who get their panties in a twist
FedUpWithIt All
Dec 2011
#643
I can kick an adult guest out of my house in a jiffy or call the police on them
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#646
Take it from me, a woman, get rid of this woman. Parents that insist on shoving the kids up
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#650
Oh yeah. I had no idea every parent of a brat would come out to attack my post
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2011
#652
If they spent that much energy disciplining their brats, the kids wouldn't be brats!
valerief
Jan 2012
#653
Oh ABSOLUTELY! Their little Timmy is NEVER a monster! Of course he isn't LOL!
Sarah Ibarruri
Jan 2012
#659