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boppers

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47. Give me numbers, not rhetoric.
Tue May 22, 2012, 06:15 AM
May 2012

You made an assertion that can be demonstrated with data.

So, what is the data?

Remember when we were kids and told "Policemen were your friends." I don't recognize much of this monmouth May 2012 #1
I was told the same. In fact, most of the cops where I grew up were RKP5637 May 2012 #11
feels like a political convention once roguevalley May 2012 #14
Who is he? I mean, I'm all for detail-free posting in the Lounge, but in msanthrope May 2012 #2
Look, it's a guy with a blood head! randome May 2012 #6
Do you have any other information? MineralMan May 2012 #3
Is he under arrest? dems_rightnow May 2012 #4
Are you kidding me? ithinkmyliverhurts May 2012 #5
Lucky he's not in jail, well I assume he's not. They've been throwing journalists in jail sabrina 1 May 2012 #7
Yes, can someone explain this photo? zappaman May 2012 #8
No context. GeorgeGist May 2012 #9
The context of this particular image may not be equally as important as the fact... Earth_First May 2012 #10
The picture is of Getty Images photographer Scott Olson Art_from_Ark May 2012 #12
Thank you, Art... Earth_First May 2012 #13
See below, he is a photo journalist who works for Getty images. sabrina 1 May 2012 #15
Doesn't look any worse than Zimmerman's. A scratch, really. Zanzoobar May 2012 #16
Well, Zimmerman killed a man, so he deserved a few 'scratches'. The question was, what did this sabrina 1 May 2012 #17
He doesn't look beaten to me Zanzoobar May 2012 #18
He's a photo journalist. He wasn't exactly in a war zone, although he sure likes like he was. sabrina 1 May 2012 #24
It kills me that so many here are willing to give law enforcement the benefit of the doubt, first... Earth_First May 2012 #26
Lol, I know. There is simply no logic to it considering the past seven months of evidence that sabrina 1 May 2012 #30
It is positively disgusting and pathetic. - n/t coalition_unwilling May 2012 #40
The loyal apologists for the police are here in force on DU Bake May 2012 #88
a journalist carrying a camera, what more do you need? CTyankee May 2012 #31
This is how a police state maintains its power Generic Other May 2012 #80
I don't know what he did. Do you? boppers May 2012 #20
I don't know yet, but the video will be available soon. I do remember so many instances like this sabrina 1 May 2012 #23
So many are so quick to take defense of law enforcement? Why? Earth_First May 2012 #25
How many were arrested, detained, or beaten in each of the last 20 years? boppers May 2012 #29
Do you have an instances of that scenario you just conjured up happening at any of these sabrina 1 May 2012 #36
Well, how does it compare to other years? boppers May 2012 #41
I don't know, maybe the phony War on Drugs or the detention of Muslims suspected of being terrorists sabrina 1 May 2012 #42
Give me numbers, not rhetoric. boppers May 2012 #47
Josh Sterns has been documenting arrests of journalists since September... Earth_First May 2012 #44
...and there is also "Photography Is Not A Crime" -ran by a DUer who doesn't post very often Earth_First May 2012 #45
Compared to what? boppers May 2012 #49
When was the last time you heard of 10 journalists being arrested every month, for nearly a year... Earth_First May 2012 #50
I have never heard of it. boppers May 2012 #56
One journalist arrested and detained sabrina 1 May 2012 #68
Journalists who rape children should be arrested and detained, to point to the obvious. boppers May 2012 #74
Report: Press freedom holds steady worldwide sabrina 1 May 2012 #83
"Sunlight is the best disinfectant" Bake May 2012 #90
When was the last time you heard of 10 journalists being arrested every month, for nearly a year... Earth_First May 2012 #51
None, of course. Is there some legitimate number of inappropriately beaten-up innocents? WriteWrong May 2012 #158
Sure. They get their day in court, and their lawsuits. boppers May 2012 #160
So how does that compare with the number of banksters arrested since September? AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #52
So, how many instances of these molotov cocktail throwing "fake journalists" can you point to? nt Guy Whitey Corngood May 2012 #65
Hm, at OccupyPortland's last stand, I counted 10 who were armed for combat *and* journalism. boppers May 2012 #71
You're right. Guy Whitey Corngood May 2012 #75
Just like everybody who carries a camera and claims to be a "journalist". boppers May 2012 #78
What is this? "I know you are but what am I?" You're Guy Whitey Corngood May 2012 #82
It's his typical approach. U4ikLefty May 2012 #106
You're pretty fascinated by video evidence. boppers May 2012 #28
Multiple cameras produce evidence from many different angles, that is why so far, no one has sabrina 1 May 2012 #33
It's also why some protesters get arrested, and convicted, for their actions. boppers May 2012 #35
No protesters have been convicted, BECAUSE of video evidence. Have you followed any of this at all sabrina 1 May 2012 #43
You have made my point. boppers May 2012 #46
Your point must be a state secret, because I have no idea what point you are trying to make. sabrina 1 May 2012 #48
My point is that bullshit allegations get refuted by video evidence. boppers May 2012 #54
And I agree, which is why I keep asking for the video evidence of violent protesters. sabrina 1 May 2012 #59
well done Sabrina fascisthunter May 2012 #60
Tired of the circular argument, with zero to back it up. Not that I hadn't noticed but sabrina 1 May 2012 #61
you are always welcome! fascisthunter May 2012 #100
+100 Sabrina Generic Other May 2012 #81
If 99.9999% percent are innocent, that's still not 100%. boppers May 2012 #70
Black Bloc is not OWS. How hard is that for you to understand? sabrina 1 May 2012 #95
How is OWS preventing Bloc infiltration? Blood tests or something? eom boppers May 2012 #102
'Infiltration'. Thank you! sabrina 1 May 2012 #103
So, members. boppers May 2012 #109
I don't care what they do. They are a separate group who have been around sabrina 1 May 2012 #118
If you think the Civil Rights Movement was all non-violent, shame on your schooling. boppers May 2012 #119
What was MLK's approach to achieving his goals? sabrina 1 May 2012 #120
MLK advocated non-violence. boppers May 2012 #123
boppers...you have been owned!!! U4ikLefty May 2012 #107
Only for those lacking a dictionary. boppers May 2012 #110
And nurses, construction workers, fire fighters, pilots, school teachers, students, sabrina 1 May 2012 #121
Indeed. It's a huge coalition, rarely attempted before. boppers May 2012 #124
And you know what? They don't make policy, at all. Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #122
They do, unfortunately, make news. boppers May 2012 #126
Oh please. You are talking about the US media? They create 'news' to fit an agenda. No one sabrina 1 May 2012 #128
I propose the following ideas for a GA: boppers May 2012 #129
Each comment you make shows how little you have followed this movement. sabrina 1 May 2012 #132
You missed my refrain. boppers May 2012 #135
I didn't miss your refrain at all. sabrina 1 May 2012 #138
Maybe you didn't see it. boppers May 2012 #142
Lol, of course I saw it, months ago, on Glenn Beck's blog, and on Free Republic sabrina 1 May 2012 #164
Some wang thought that a local Fox news guy was part of the 1%. boppers May 2012 #165
Really, I have a friend who was part of the Portland Occupy movement. I guess you just stopped by sabrina 1 May 2012 #166
I was *not* a camper. boppers May 2012 #167
Thanks for posting this link, BTW. boppers May 2012 #143
Please see my post #58 in this thread. Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #67
Another story about another victim in Chicago that didn't deserve what he got: sad sally May 2012 #19
How terribly sad. And even more so that it occurs on a regular basis. Those children should be sabrina 1 May 2012 #34
How do we know what was going on? treestar May 2012 #21
Well, he is a photo journalist for one of the best organizations that often send their sabrina 1 May 2012 #37
So the police are thugs. What else is new lunatica May 2012 #22
What else is new is that "we" have an AG who apparently won't prosecute any of them, the AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #53
maybe he was stalking somebody with his camera hfojvt May 2012 #27
Why the hell would you side with the police!? I'm about to post livestream of what happened to him Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #57
Yay, Cops! Iggo May 2012 #32
Chicago cops also arrested a Getty photographer. Just nonsense... n/t Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #38
How dare Olson bang his head on the pigs' coalition_unwilling May 2012 #39
the same posters always siding with authority fascisthunter May 2012 #55
Surprised? No. Most of them were likely Republican before the GOP purges, they have not changed Dragonfli May 2012 #64
YOU nailed it fascisthunter May 2012 #101
* ronnie624 May 2012 #105
Here is livestream of what appears to have happened to him. Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #58
I was close Zanzoobar May 2012 #62
You saw the pics of cops shoving people along the fence and into each other; it's the second photo Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #66
I watched the video you posted Zanzoobar May 2012 #84
Why did the cops attack those protesters, right after the Veterans tossed their medals? sabrina 1 May 2012 #85
I didn't see an attack in the video Fire posted Zanzoobar May 2012 #87
They moved in as the Veterans themselves, interviewed on various media, stated. People sabrina 1 May 2012 #97
How quickly we forget the Bill of Rights. Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #98
And the cops shoving him into it have nothing to do with it? Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #86
I didn't see the other thread. Zanzoobar May 2012 #89
You are making a conclusion without examing the evidence provided? Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #91
I watched the video yesterday Zanzoobar May 2012 #92
I didn't say he was baton'd. Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #93
My mistake Zanzoobar May 2012 #94
Many -were- beaten. This is not my thread. I did not say the photographer was baton'd. Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #99
"peaceful assembly" My ass. boppers May 2012 #114
It was fully peaceful until cops showed up 15+ deep and began giving orders against the Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #115
Are you wearing a brown shirt today? U4ikLefty May 2012 #130
Gandhi thought people should be armed. boppers May 2012 #133
give it up U4ikLefty May 2012 #108
Whoa, I didn't know that, thanks. Blasted cops. n/t Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #125
"hit by a baton" means nothing. boppers May 2012 #136
Your reply makes you look ridiculous. U4ikLefty May 2012 #151
So, you don't engage in baton sport? boppers May 2012 #152
A bloody scratch is not a head wound. It's a mosh pit souvenir. boppers May 2012 #113
Proportion, especially because the rally at which those injuries were doled out Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #116
I suggest you read the Geneva conventions again. boppers May 2012 #127
You are the one who needs a reading lesson. U4ikLefty May 2012 #131
The Geneva conventions are between states. boppers May 2012 #134
Sadly, for those who die for their rights, many cry wolf. eom boppers May 2012 #112
Refusal to disperse is not a right. boppers May 2012 #111
The Constitution. Use it or lose it. Because it's being killed before our very eyes. Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #117
Riot is not a right. Orderly assembly, is. boppers May 2012 #137
Seriously? Seriously? I'm looking at this and looking at this Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #141
Basically, the last 200 years have sided with 1st amendment *limits* on speech. boppers May 2012 #145
He probably didn't do anything to deserve it... tledford May 2012 #63
Why do you keep thinking that DUers want to see anyone injured? randome May 2012 #69
You obviously don't have a fucking clue pinboy3niner May 2012 #72
Who the hell am I casting aspersion to? randome May 2012 #73
Nice try, but no sale pinboy3niner May 2012 #76
Protesting against police violence against protesters doesn't appear to be working. randome May 2012 #77
You asked what we're doing, and I told you what we're doing pinboy3niner May 2012 #79
Is is not "pissing on" the protestors to point out that the treestar May 2012 #140
Yes! sabrina 1 May 2012 #104
was the aparagus steamed or grilled? n/t librechik May 2012 #96
What is the purpose of being out in the streets? treestar May 2012 #139
To the posters not believing he was struck by baton, here's confirmation from Getty Images suffragette May 2012 #144
So, somebody who wasn't there, with no actual knowledge, or evidence, has "confirmed" it? boppers May 2012 #146
Well, didn't take you long - lol suffragette May 2012 #148
My father was a PR flack for the Mormon (CoJCoLDS) church. boppers May 2012 #149
Your dad was a Mormon mouthpiece so you "know how these things work"...too funny. U4ikLefty May 2012 #153
Only in absurdly high concentrations. boppers May 2012 #154
Here I give you the BS that is boppers. U4ikLefty May 2012 #156
'Details are sparse...' randome May 2012 #147
Actually I don't. You can contact the Getty PR person yourself through the links in post #148 suffragette May 2012 #159
I would think that if you want to support your premise, you would do this. randome May 2012 #161
I believe that person so I have no need for doing that suffragette May 2012 #162
Damn...thanks :( Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #157
Thanks for your substantive contributions suffragette May 2012 #163
The thing that shocks me are the bizarre lies the pro-police posters make up to justify the violence WriteWrong May 2012 #150
I suppose the 'evil criminal' posts are...where? randome May 2012 #155
Are you talking about the photo journalist? He got his injury from a police baton it has now been sabrina 1 May 2012 #169
You're absolutely correct. No one at DU is defending police brutality. randome May 2012 #170
It did not have to meander all over the place. Most of us simply looked for the story and easily sabrina 1 May 2012 #171
Well, there's really no point in anyone lying to protect them. The cases are reaching the courts now sabrina 1 May 2012 #168
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