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Mon May 21, 2012, 08:30 PM

FrodosPet (1,013 posts)

83. What is the alternative?

We need police officers. To do their jobs, police occasionally have to be violent and authoritative. But only rarely.

How can we get more progressives to become police officers to crowd out the righties and do the job properly?

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148 replies	Author	Time	Post
So much hatred [View all]	jehop61	May 2012	OP
Hmm, wonder what your take is on this pic:	coalition_unwilling	May 2012	#1
My take is that the guy he watched break a stick over another cops head,	Rose Siding	May 2012	#24
I'll just bet you have a tidy little police-brutality-enabling	coalition_unwilling	May 2012	#28
The poster was responding to a specific incident which YOU brought up.	11 Bravo	May 2012	#35
He won that point.	UnrepentantLiberal	May 2012	#37
That's just splendid. Turning excessive force and police brutality	coalition_unwilling	May 2012	#48
You are on the right thread.	randome	May 2012	#50
Oh, no sports!	ProudToBeBlueInRhody	May 2012	#57
Well, I was in chess club in High School. Does that count? :) - n/t	coalition_unwilling	May 2012	#58
Ha!	zappaman	May 2012	#68
Omg! I know him from Occupy Austin	Dragonbreathp9d	May 2012	#91
You seem to be complaining about his use of facts...	Cave_Johnson	May 2012	#146
Looks like someone in the back of the crowd starting pushing, One cop started swinging.	adigal	May 2012	#39
Ah yes,	jehop61	May 2012	#96
I Was Watching It Live On Channel 9...	KharmaTrain	May 2012	#97
Fuck em. and their fucking families too.	CBGLuthier	May 2012	#99
Fuck whom? The protesters? The police? And why "their families too"?	coalition_unwilling	May 2012	#104
So the cops' hatred for protesters and free speech doesn't bring tears to your eyes?	Zalatix	May 2012	#2
You wouuld think that people who have "scraped bodies off the pavement,"	Lionessa	May 2012	#3
+1,000!!!	Zalatix	May 2012	#98
What? And get people to put down their broad brushes?	Brickbat	May 2012	#4
Oops.	Iggo	May 2012	#5
There's some good cops and there's some bad cops.	bigwillq	May 2012	#6
Thank you	jehop61	May 2012	#21
I've met good police officers as well	UnrepentantLiberal	May 2012	#38
I agree	SoutherDem	May 2012	#7
That's the "few bad apples" argument.	Bake	May 2012	#52
What is the alternative?	FrodosPet	May 2012	#83
Lefties, righties, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THEIR POLITICS ARE.	Bake	May 2012	#88
LEOs follow orders. Elect people who will change what those orders will be.	freshwest	May 2012	#147
I personally believe that Internal Affairs Divisions need to be abolished	GObamaGO	May 2012	#133
As long as the boards are well trained	FrodosPet	May 2012	#138
No, they're NOT "people like me."	Bake	May 2012	#8
Whatever the percentage, it still makes no sense to judge them all	treestar	May 2012	#11
How many police brutality stories must we endure?	Bake	May 2012	#12
It doesn't make the news when people do their job in ordinary circumstances	treestar	May 2012	#23
Then I repeat: the so-called "good ones" need to purge the "bad apples."	Bake	May 2012	#25
Then that applies to every profession there is	treestar	May 2012	#100
Doctors don't USUALLY go berserk and BEAT a homeless man TO DEATH.	Bake	May 2012	#109
that's not the issue	treestar	May 2012	#119
Yes, bad docs can and do kill people. Usually it's negligence, not malice.	Bake	May 2012	#120
Cops don't usually kill people, either.	randome	May 2012	#121
Cops may have saved lives on occasion	treestar	May 2012	#124
The whole bunch? I'm not condemning the whole bunch	Bake	May 2012	#125
Are you talking about some specific police force?	treestar	May 2012	#126
I've had traffic stops where the cop the was rude, overbearing, but thankfully not violent.	Bake	May 2012	#127
But you're going to need the cops after that	treestar	May 2012	#130
You're going to defend the cops, so fine.	Bake	May 2012	#137
Yep. It's the bad cops who spoil the reputations of the other	hifiguy	May 2012	#13
Or maybe you're being generous ... or optimistic.	Bake	May 2012	#14
How do you talk to them?	ProudToBeBlueInRhody	May 2012	#59
I say "yes sir" and "no sir"	Bake	May 2012	#67
Maybe that's part of the problem	derby378	May 2012	#89
I don't disagree, but courtesy goes a long way	Bake	May 2012	#90
ANYBODY can get a sir or ma'am from me	FrodosPet	May 2012	#139
I use the latter two all the time	derby378	May 2012	#140
By my book New York City has had exactly two good cops in the past two generations.	backscatter712	May 2012	#29
Even the good ones are complicit.	Bake	May 2012	#31
You don't see them arresting the criminal cops. n/t	backscatter712	May 2012	#33
Um, yeah. Sometimes you do.	randome	May 2012	#47
Thanks about Adrian Schoolcraft as this I did not know.	PufPuf23	May 2012	#85
+2	rug	May 2012	#145
right. When we hear story after story about how	dana_b	May 2012	#42
I've found most police officers to be reasonable, level-headed, and open-minded, but only after...	slackmaster	May 2012	#9
Funny, I've found them to assume (and act on) the worst possible assumptions.	Bake	May 2012	#16
Ha ha.....oh hahahahahaa......donuts	ProudToBeBlueInRhody	May 2012	#60
The donut crack was unfair, I admit it.	Bake	May 2012	#66
I wouldn't try.....	ProudToBeBlueInRhody	May 2012	#94
So I assume you adhere to the "bad apple" theory.	Bake	May 2012	#110
The problem is that during these protests they good ones do not stop the bad ones	Marrah_G	May 2012	#80
I'm not sure it's that simple.	randome	May 2012	#82
ANY supporter of the 1% who's of the 99%.............	socialist_n_TN	May 2012	#10
Just another hit-and-run poster.	Atman	May 2012	#15
At some point the police are going to have to make a choice	Marrah_G	May 2012	#17
My Coversation With Two Police	otohara	May 2012	#18
This post was hidden by jury decision.	DisgustipatedinCA	May 2012	#19
Yes those skulls are costing tax payers money to replace the broken batons.	L0oniX	May 2012	#20
I support cops.	pintobean	May 2012	#64
In that case	zappaman	May 2012	#69
I always thought you were	pintobean	May 2012	#73
To be fair...	zappaman	May 2012	#75
This message was self-deleted by its author	DisgustipatedinCA	May 2012	#77
I do?	pintobean	May 2012	#78
This message was self-deleted by its author	DisgustipatedinCA	May 2012	#79
No, it squats.	pintobean	May 2012	#81
This message was self-deleted by its author	DisgustipatedinCA	May 2012	#84
What you do in private	pintobean	May 2012	#86
You deserve a DUZY for that one...	zappaman	May 2012	#87
This message was self-deleted by its author	DisgustipatedinCA	May 2012	#112
Thank you John Edward	zappaman	May 2012	#113
No, really. Just look at Zappa's life, at his words. You're on the diametric opposite end of the	DisgustipatedinCA	May 2012	#114
This message was self-deleted by its author	DisgustipatedinCA	May 2012	#111
You have serious issues.	pintobean	May 2012	#128
This message was self-deleted by its author	DisgustipatedinCA	May 2012	#129
There are more than 581,000 police departments in this country.	randome	May 2012	#22
Are you sure your numbers are right?? That would mean each state has 10000 police departments???	adigal	May 2012	#44
Pulled quickly from Yahoo so I haven't double-checked.	randome	May 2012	#45
If that is right, that is scary. 10000 police departments per state? Wow. n/t	adigal	May 2012	#49
It's basic math, and not at all "scary".	PavePusher	May 2012	#134
10,000 departments per state?? Not officers. Departments. n/t	adigal	May 2012	#135
This message was self-deleted by its author	PavePusher	May 2012	#141
When the mission of cops transmogrifies into protecting the property of the 1%, we get Keystone Kops	WingDinger	May 2012	#26
Yes, so much hatred. Why do cops hate the people they are paid to protect so much?	sabrina 1	May 2012	#27
When Bloomberg is not overlord of the NYPD	Rex	May 2012	#32
A nice but extremely subjective post.	Rex	May 2012	#30
Principle IV	Zorra	May 2012	#34
Well, my husband was a NYC cop for 3 years before going to be	adigal	May 2012	#36
Uh, they very much DO hate protesters who are left of center and further.	HughBeaumont	May 2012	#40
Tea Party types don't congregate is as large a number as these protesters did.	randome	May 2012	#46
Police are just as susceptible to mob mentality as any other group.	haele	May 2012	#41
You're a lousy fiction writer	just1voice	May 2012	#43
Excellent response to a drive by, flame bait post.	GoneOffShore	May 2012	#51
+1,000,000,000 x 1,000,000,000 - n/t	coalition_unwilling	May 2012	#53
boofuckinghoo, sweetie.	cali	May 2012	#54
Reports of good cops are anecdotal evidence at this point. nt	Comrade_McKenzie	May 2012	#55
let us defund and see how many "heros" stick with it.	TheKentuckian	May 2012	#56
"let us defund"	ProudToBeBlueInRhody	May 2012	#62
Cops = teachers, gotcha.	Zalatix	May 2012	#101
They are both public employees	ProudToBeBlueInRhody	May 2012	#103
The right wing loves cops and hates teachers for a reason.	Zalatix	May 2012	#105
Actually, the right does not always love cops	ProudToBeBlueInRhody	May 2012	#106
Cops won't get chopped... who else can the Plutocrats call on for defense?	Zalatix	May 2012	#107
You can keep saying that all you want	ProudToBeBlueInRhody	May 2012	#108
Ok so who will the Plutocrats rely on for defense if they keep cutting the cops?	Zalatix	May 2012	#117
"Plutocrats" can hire their own security, they don't need government to arrange it for them	ProudToBeBlueInRhody	May 2012	#131
They may think they're safe, but they're not.	Zalatix	May 2012	#132
Congrats	ProudToBeBlueInRhody	May 2012	#136
The military? If things get bad enough.	white_wolf	May 2012	#123
We have too many cops. Not enough teachers.	Comrade Grumpy	May 2012	#115
They sure do and it works. Defunding the police would be orders of magnitude more successful	TheKentuckian	May 2012	#118
Cop hatred is a DU tradition. nt	Skip Intro	May 2012	#61
So long as citizen-beating is a cop tradition	Union Scribe	May 2012	#74
So much denial. n/t	Egalitarian Thug	May 2012	#63
Did you feel that way about the Egyptian police? The Syrian?	Puregonzo1188	May 2012	#65
The UN estimates that about 10,000 people have been killed in the fighting in Syria since March 2011	RZM	May 2012	#72
"have any of you ever thought..." oh, puh-lease!	stlsaxman	May 2012	#70
Police in the US are the muscle of the 1%	Great Caesars Ghost	May 2012	#71
lol	fascisthunter	May 2012	#76
Most cops suck- there are only a few good apples	Dragonbreathp9d	May 2012	#92
I hate all brutish bullies...	99Forever	May 2012	#93
Not a lot of thoughtful responses in this thread, so -->	daaron	May 2012	#95
I have thought about the people behind the badge.	raouldukelives	May 2012	#102
I saw some stuff on Youtube	heaven knows	May 2012	#116
I have a really good friend who is a cop so	TBF	May 2012	#122
There really are plenty of good cops!	Quantess	May 2012	#142
I'll stop hating.	Hatchling	May 2012	#143
I've been with and following the Occupy movement closely since its birth	Fire Walk With Me	May 2012	#144
Another reason to stop hating on the cops	Zalatix	May 2012	#148

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