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In the discussion thread: Putting the picture of the Chicago cop punching a protester in context [View all]

Mon May 21, 2012, 07:08 PM

randome (12,777 posts)

76. I think that's all that any of us are saying.

No one knows for sure what everyone was thinking. Even in the livestream, you can't see the front of the protesters so it's impossible to say who started what.

wndycty's eyewitness account means something, though.

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157 replies	Author	Time	Post
Putting the picture of the Chicago cop punching a protester in context [View all]	wndycty	May 2012	OP
Sorry, that doesn't fit the preferred narrative here.	11 Bravo	May 2012	#1
Thanks for this perspective, wndy.	elleng	May 2012	#2
How convenient. Leaving off the first shot showing this asshole	Egalitarian Thug	May 2012	#3
Hey, feel free to add that	nobodyspecial	May 2012	#5
The police didn't wade into shit. The march was over, there was an agreement between organizers. .	wndycty	May 2012	#6
If you had a point to make...	Wait Wut	May 2012	#92
The city stereotypes itself. I lived there many years and nothing has changed at all. n/t	Egalitarian Thug	May 2012	#127
Listen to these guys for once. That whole 1968 thing was just a left wing myth.	Zalatix	May 2012	#128
Chicago in 1968 was a set up by agent provocateurs of the right	ProudToBeBlueInRhody	May 2012	#136
That was over 40 years ago.	Wait Wut	May 2012	#141
Well said. Those nutters who say history repeats itself need to adjust their tinfoil hats!	Zalatix	May 2012	#142
Waste of tinfoil	Wait Wut	May 2012	#143
Yup, things change, you tell 'em!	Zalatix	May 2012	#144
Oops. Can't watch vids at work...	Wait Wut	May 2012	#145
I was born and raised there.	Wait Wut	May 2012	#140
.	facetious_badger	May 2012	#148
It is a difficult and often dangerous job, that's what they sign up for.	Egalitarian Thug	May 2012	#150
.	facetious_badger	May 2012	#152
Prepare for incoming	nobodyspecial	May 2012	#4
You know a cop got stabbed by a protester on Saturday, but of course the defenders will defend that	wndycty	May 2012	#8
Oh, they don't have to defend it	nobodyspecial	May 2012	#10
Who here is going to defend a cop getting stabbed? What a ridiculous projection that is. n/t	EFerrari	May 2012	#14
I thought you might sense you were defending the other acts of lawlessness . . .	wndycty	May 2012	#26
Boy, how disgusting is that. n/t	EFerrari	May 2012	#59
she was? where was that?	HiPointDem	May 2012	#121
I'm so glad	jehop61	May 2012	#73
Did not hear that. Do you have a link?	midnight	May 2012	#133
of course	facetious_badger	May 2012	#155
Not in the pic are corporate employees and owners in their offices high above all this. Laughing,	jtuck004	May 2012	#7
Huh, what?	wndycty	May 2012	#9
so this photo means it's okay for that other cop to punch the protestor?	CreekDog	May 2012	#13
The cops were defending themselves. Did you notice the cop who had the wood broken over his head. .	wndycty	May 2012	#16
That cop was being pushed into the crowd by his colleagues.	EFerrari	May 2012	#63
well you're defending what another cop did by what a picture of a different cop shows	CreekDog	May 2012	#93
I agree with you, wndy	frazzled	May 2012	#11
Where would we be without the police escorting us around our own cities, negotiating our rights	EFerrari	May 2012	#12
DO you know why the folks were escorted?	wndycty	May 2012	#15
Because protesters are too stupid not to play in traffic?	EFerrari	May 2012	#18
You watched a live stream while I was in the middle of it. . .sure I will take your fucking word. .	wndycty	May 2012	#27
Even more impressive.	Union Scribe	May 2012	#32
SO you think the quality of seeing something on a live stream is much more accurate. . .	wndycty	May 2012	#33
You are absolutely right!	randome	May 2012	#34
Watching on several livestreams and NOT seeing protesters attacking cops speaks many truths.	Fire Walk With Me	May 2012	#40
Again I keep hearing that second hand and live streams trump what I saw with my own eyes. . .	wndycty	May 2012	#43
You saw that, and I did not. I saw this, and you did not.	Fire Walk With Me	May 2012	#48
Actually, I think it does	quakerboy	May 2012	#110
It is equal.	Union Scribe	May 2012	#46
No, I don't. Because that livestream didn't try to justify cr@P to me	EFerrari	May 2012	#55
You said what I was thinking!	Fire Walk With Me	May 2012	#113
+1 A lot of people are just not going to give up there good vs. evil pre-judice. (nt)	reACTIONary	May 2012	#117
K&R for a much needed sensible post.	Gidney N Cloyd	May 2012	#17
How much did Chicago taxpayers pay for these "escorts", do you think,?	EFerrari	May 2012	#21
The crowd that you see on the other side of the cops is the crowd that was picking fights. . .	wndycty	May 2012	#25
No. I watched livestreams and cops demanded an entirely peaceful gathering disperse or face arrest.	Fire Walk With Me	May 2012	#38
"...who the hell is to say those weren't cops?"	randome	May 2012	#47
the police did admit it had infiltrated the black bloc	2pooped2pop	May 2012	#74
I think that's all that any of us are saying.	randome	May 2012	#76
Keep digging. There must be some gold down there somewhere. n/t	EFerrari	May 2012	#57
surely u mean "with all this shit, there must be a pony"	2pooped2pop	May 2012	#107
Oh, so money is of primary importance to you now?	randome	May 2012	#31
Put that strawman down before he hurts you. n/t	EFerrari	May 2012	#56
NATO Protests - Chicago	The_Rights_Of_Man	May 2012	#19
Exactly, here from Chicagoist that speaks volumes to me:	wndycty	May 2012	#23
hmmm. interesting little story. interesting first post.	cali	May 2012	#28
Yeah sure right. Cool story, though.	SammyWinstonJack	May 2012	#109
So this asshole cop took it upon himself to smash this poor blind man's guide-stick karate style	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#20
You must have missed all the video footage of pigs swinging batons	coalition_unwilling	May 2012	#22
Consider I witnessed one of the marches first hand. . .	wndycty	May 2012	#29
So by being there you...gained the power of telepathy.	Union Scribe	May 2012	#30
Never said they were. . .	wndycty	May 2012	#35
It seems to be your claim	Union Scribe	May 2012	#50
All Bow... To The All Knowing, All Seeing, wndycty !!!	WillyT	May 2012	#37
LOL you are funny. . .even many protesters are complaining about the other protesters. . .	wndycty	May 2012	#41
You're incredulous that you were there and people are still questioning your conclusions	DisgustipatedinCA	May 2012	#49
That's not what I and countless others witnessed, nor does it match	coalition_unwilling	May 2012	#125
I wasn't there, so I don't know, but...	TreasonousBastard	May 2012	#24
I think you just killed all the other threads on this!	randome	May 2012	#36
...	Earth_First	May 2012	#39
Can you show me the pics of him before he got cracked over the head.	wndycty	May 2012	#42
Wow... You Seem To Have Some Serious Authority Issues...	WillyT	May 2012	#45
So, different time, different place, different context.	boppers	May 2012	#116
I am outraged by your inferrence that he somehow deserved to nearly be killed	Fire Walk With Me	May 2012	#51
This thread had to do with Chicago, not Scott Olsen.	randome	May 2012	#69
better than that	dana_b	May 2012	#52
This thread was very specific to what happened in Chicago	nobodyspecial	May 2012	#62
According to DUers since my perspective doesn't fit their narrative its irrelevant	wndycty	May 2012	#67
LOL! I want to hear the OP's "perspective" on the $600,000. settlement	EFerrari	May 2012	#68
This post was hidden by jury decision.	wndycty	May 2012	#71
It would be nice if you could display even the remotest acceptance that cops can and will be	Fire Walk With Me	May 2012	#80
I bring up a fact about the CPigD and am called ignorant and stupid.	EFerrari	May 2012	#108
The Password is, Chicago Police Department.	EFerrari	May 2012	#103
The OP created a sub-thread through asking to be shown what Scott Olsen was doing	Fire Walk With Me	May 2012	#114
yes, and I was just answering the question that	dana_b	May 2012	#119
There it is! Thank you! Obviously, he deserved anything the cops wanted to do to him!	Fire Walk With Me	May 2012	#112
Show me your stats on police injury's vs. protester injury's. n-t	Logical	May 2012	#44
Here's the entire sequence of events in that skirmish	frazzled	May 2012	#53
I was just going to post this	nobodyspecial	May 2012	#60
Fire posted a vid from ABC 7, Chi. Twice.	Mc Mike	May 2012	#135
Wow, either you are a ex-cop, current cop or married to a cop. No other explanition. n-t	Logical	May 2012	#54
No I am just someone who believes the social justice activists do not need assholes. . .	wndycty	May 2012	#64
Read this post and comment. I wrote it based on your naive/gullible post......	Logical	May 2012	#70
Cute? I am naive and gullible. I do not choose to read any bullshit thread that you start. . .	wndycty	May 2012	#72
So telling you you are wrong and gullible is "Talking Shit"? LOL, classic.	Logical	May 2012	#77
Why don't you go over to my "Show me what a police state looks like!" thread	Fire Walk With Me	May 2012	#58
Also, people given guns are supposed to be trained to not over-react in even the worst situations	Fire Walk With Me	May 2012	#61
So they should just stand still and be a punching bag for someone?	randome	May 2012	#65
Please take a look at the exact series of events	nobodyspecial	May 2012	#66
Don't waste your time many on DU have narrative they want to believe and won't let the facts...	wndycty	May 2012	#75
What "facts" have you posted except 5 out of context photos??	Logical	May 2012	#78
Not out of context. Here is an interview with the photographer who took the shots	nobodyspecial	May 2012	#83
If you going to justify a cop punching a citizen for any reason whatsoever	Fire Walk With Me	May 2012	#79
I don't know-	secondvariety	May 2012	#85
Excellent point. Defenders of the Chicago PD's excessive force and brutality	coalition_unwilling	May 2012	#126
Here's a link	JH19059	May 2012	#81
so are you saying they deserved to be punched?	fascisthunter	May 2012	#82
Listen to an eyewitness account to the event.	nobodyspecial	May 2012	#84
It is a waste of time with these folks who have a narrative and are ignoring the facts. . .	wndycty	May 2012	#86
LOL....you stopped responding because you are getting the shit kicked out of you. I don't blame....	Logical	May 2012	#89
You were the one who ran away and started 2 more threads on this.	randome	May 2012	#97
Ran away? LOL....I put my stats out there in a NEW post and you are welcome to attack them. And....	Logical	May 2012	#100
That's their MO	nobodyspecial	May 2012	#91
Explain how it was NOT BS. Don't just whine, back up what you said.	Logical	May 2012	#94
Well, I posted photos AND video links of the specific incident	nobodyspecial	May 2012	#95
I cannot tell if you are serious. For EVERY photo you can post someone can post 100....	Logical	May 2012	#99
Here is the title of the thread	nobodyspecial	May 2012	#101
"context" makes it sound like you are saying the police are correct! Does it not? n-t	Logical	May 2012	#102
Oh, I'm sorry	nobodyspecial	May 2012	#104
Look up the word 'context' somewhere.	randome	May 2012	#105
what was that, balsa wood... and what idiot did that?	fascisthunter	May 2012	#90
That was a piece of lathe. But the platinum blond was clearly threatening the helmetless cop	Mc Mike	May 2012	#132
When Occupiers attempted to regain Zuccotti using a legit =court order= saying they could, this cop	Fire Walk With Me	May 2012	#87
Can't even see the woman. But he was probably not justified.	randome	May 2012	#88
Of course he's justified, according to the OP. You're lacking a sense of perspective here.	Zalatix	May 2012	#129
If true	RobertEarl	May 2012	#96
Screenshots of what cops nation-wide think about Occupiers	Fire Walk With Me	May 2012	#98
Which is quite a contrast with	Fla_Democrat	May 2012	#118
More "perspective" for you...	Earth_First	May 2012	#106
What perspective?	zappaman	May 2012	#111
Chicago spent over $63 million defending police misconduct: study	Fire Walk With Me	May 2012	#115
This whole thread has made me proud of the DU	SmileyRose	May 2012	#120
uh...	dana_b	May 2012	#124
In fact, the OP has a post hidden in the thread...	Bluenorthwest	May 2012	#139
Oh no, not a piece of balsa wood.	girl gone mad	May 2012	#122
Fine I'll hit you with one	SpartanDem	May 2012	#123
OH THE HUMANITY!	99Forever	May 2012	#130
********BULLSHIT OP DEFENDING COPS WHO STRUCK FIRST*******	uponit7771	May 2012	#131
Good morning America showed this particular shot in motion, and the cop is moving in on these people	midnight	May 2012	#134
Protests in Chicago seem amazingly tame compared to other locations.	ieoeja	May 2012	#137
I remember 68. And the recent torture and false imprisonment case	Bluenorthwest	May 2012	#138
LOL, there's an apologist for everything	just1voice	May 2012	#146
Context	facetious_badger	May 2012	#149
Not always and often not so. I used to think that, but after being stopped and harassed by a local	uppityperson	May 2012	#151
consider	facetious_badger	May 2012	#153
He'd followed me for several blocks. Then called to me when I stopped where I was going.	uppityperson	May 2012	#154
One	facetious_badger	May 2012	#156
yup, tazing a 73 yr old man for not taking a ticket, or a 52 yr old who was passed out with an	uppityperson	May 2012	#157
police	facetious_badger	May 2012	#147

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