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In the discussion thread: Looking at the undisputed facts in the Zimmerman case and applying Zimmerman's original story [View all]

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Mon May 21, 2012, 12:29 PM

uppityperson (74,176 posts)

21. How was Trayvon bigger than Zimmerman? You keep saying that, what do you base that on?

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135 replies	Author	Time	Post
Looking at the undisputed facts in the Zimmerman case and applying Zimmerman's original story [View all]	Tommy_Carcetti	May 2012	OP
#3 is not quite correct.	Common Sense Party	May 2012	#1
Thanks.	Tommy_Carcetti	May 2012	#2
Oh, no, not in the least.	Common Sense Party	May 2012	#4
Option B	BeGoodDoGood	May 2012	#45
So what is Martin's motive in chosing to ambush Zimmerman instead of retreating to safety?	Tommy_Carcetti	May 2012	#49
This post was hidden by jury decision.	BeGoodDoGood	May 2012	#50
Wow. Okay. Wow.	Tommy_Carcetti	May 2012	#52
Yeah, Wow	BeGoodDoGood	May 2012	#64
"These assholes always get away."	Tommy_Carcetti	May 2012	#67
Numerous Break-ins	BeGoodDoGood	May 2012	#69
Most rapists are men. Does that give anyone the right to profile all men?	Daalalou	May 2012	#71
Well, at least you realize in a very backwards way the racial component of this case.	Tommy_Carcetti	May 2012	#72
Martin Was Clearly the Aggressor Ultimately	BeGoodDoGood	May 2012	#76
What profile other than black and male?	Tommy_Carcetti	May 2012	#80
Well...	BeGoodDoGood	May 2012	#83
Really....I mean, Really....	Tommy_Carcetti	May 2012	#85
Well...	BeGoodDoGood	May 2012	#86
Again, we are going off of Zimmerman's ORIGINAL STORY.	Tommy_Carcetti	May 2012	#90
Zimmerman is the one with history of violent assaults against other people, Trayvon's offenses	JI7	May 2012	#89
Do you even know what profiling is?	EOTE	May 2012	#95
let's break it down like this..	frylock	May 2012	#96
I have to give a big thumbs up to this.	EOTE	May 2012	#99
i'm sick of these trolls signing up here to spread their racisct crap..	frylock	May 2012	#107
We have every reason to believe that Zimmerman provoked Martin	MattBaggins	May 2012	#100
Zimmerman didn't know any of that	treestar	May 2012	#117
Based on your insulting, moronic comments to the OP	CatWoman	May 2012	#84
Well...	BeGoodDoGood	May 2012	#88
Brawndo's got what plants crave.	Tommy_Carcetti	May 2012	#91
so the answer to preventing crime	CatWoman	May 2012	#73
No One Suggested Killing All Young Black Men	BeGoodDoGood	May 2012	#77
Yeah, it makes so much more sense that a kid with Skittles and tea went looking for a fight.	EOTE	May 2012	#94
Why not shoot him in the arm or shoulder then?	treestar	May 2012	#116
Or simply show his gun?	Tommy_Carcetti	May 2012	#118
Or just told him he had a gun	treestar	May 2012	#121
except for a few points	magical thyme	May 2012	#124
You forgot one huge important piece of evidence.	sabrina 1	May 2012	#130
You won't get a response.	Tommy_Carcetti	May 2012	#131
my head just completely and earth shatteringly	CatWoman	May 2012	#60
Thank you, I thought for a minute I was the only one appalled. nt	Tommy_Carcetti	May 2012	#61
next he'll tell us Trayvon will appear as a hologram	CatWoman	May 2012	#62
No, I noticed it too	NoGOPZone	May 2012	#65
Each time there is a new Trayvon thread, a member of MIRT should be assigned to babysit it.	stevenleser	May 2012	#63
Mine did too	Generic Other	May 2012	#70
LOL!!	CatWoman	May 2012	#74
Unlike Zimmerman's light gray T-shirt, which	Fawke Em	May 2012	#93
Re: #3, I don't see any mention in the transcript that resembles telling Z not to exit his vehicle	slackmaster	May 2012	#3
I went ahead and edited as to that one issue.	Tommy_Carcetti	May 2012	#6
It doesn't matter	RiseFromBelow	May 2012	#12
Who threw the first punch may be in dispute....	Tommy_Carcetti	May 2012	#16
From a post downthread, it seems he does believe that.	uppityperson	May 2012	#22
Who said there was a long verbal argument?	RiseFromBelow	May 2012	#25
No, there are other ways to be in that location. Perhaps he hid and waited to see what	uppityperson	May 2012	#28
No evidence	RiseFromBelow	May 2012	#32
Zimmy doesn't have to defend from every crackpot theory? Hahahaha. thank you MIRT. eom	uppityperson	May 2012	#33
No other injuries... including on his knuckles	Daalalou	May 2012	#55
Not from you, but some have speculated....	Tommy_Carcetti	May 2012	#31
Why wasn't Zimmerman back at his truck?	Daalalou	May 2012	#54
Your are incorrect regarding the Police Dispatch ...it was not a " suggestion"	FarPoint	May 2012	#26
It wasn't a lawful order. Zimmerman was under no legal obligation to follow the advice.	slackmaster	May 2012	#30
Yes it was a command.	FarPoint	May 2012	#36
Please cite an applicable Florida statute to back up your claim	slackmaster	May 2012	#39
Prove to me that we all can disregard the direction of an officer as desired ...	FarPoint	May 2012	#104
Officers can give ORDERS to people only under very limited circumstances, such as emergencies,	slackmaster	May 2012	#110
Well...if you practice what you preach and advocate...	FarPoint	May 2012	#111
Your reply is presumptuous nonsense. You imply that Zimmerman broke a LAW by not following advice,	slackmaster	May 2012	#112
oh good. new meat.	frylock	May 2012	#97
Physical altercation	varstal110	Dec 2012	#135
This post was hidden by jury decision.	RiseFromBelow	May 2012	#5
He was 17 years old.	Tommy_Carcetti	May 2012	#9
Oh, I agree with the running	RiseFromBelow	May 2012	#17
There's a difference between feeling pugnacious and being downright idiotic.	Tommy_Carcetti	May 2012	#19
Only crime	RiseFromBelow	May 2012	#27
Suspended for pot vs a person with a long history of violence, are you fucking kidding me?	Quixote1818	May 2012	#34
You'll have to prove that Trayvon assaulted Zimmerman first.	Tommy_Carcetti	May 2012	#35
Would you care to bring up Zimmermans violent past	MattBaggins	May 2012	#98
Troll alert! Troll alert! Somebody help!	broiles	May 2012	#13
I want him/her	JustAnotherGen	May 2012	#20
i guess calling people 'troll'	ProdigalJunkMail	May 2012	#43
Can you please edit that?	Iggo	May 2012	#44
Excellent fielding of foul trolls.	FarPoint	May 2012	#108
He was on his way to	leftynyc	May 2012	#14
This post was hidden by jury decision.	tularetom	May 2012	#15
Why would a Private Citizen	JustAnotherGen	May 2012	#18
How was Trayvon bigger than Zimmerman? You keep saying that, what do you base that on?	uppityperson	May 2012	#21
How would Zimmerman lose sight of him? And Martin was not bigger than Zimmerman.	Quixote1818	May 2012	#23
Zimmerman neglected to inform the Officer- Dispatcher	FarPoint	May 2012	#29
And another racist troll bites the dust.	Rex	May 2012	#38
Here they come	Kingofalldems	May 2012	#7
I love watching trolls get shitcanned.	Rex	May 2012	#40
I actually wanted him to answer my question though.	Tommy_Carcetti	May 2012	#41
I don't think he would be able to answer that question	Rex	May 2012	#56
I think Zimmerman didn't know that	shimonitanegi	May 2012	#8
I don't think much matters before they fought	Life Long Dem	May 2012	#10
It's more of a matter of his original story not making any sense.	Tommy_Carcetti	May 2012	#11
Good question	goclark	May 2012	#24
Actually it does in a huge way.	Rex	May 2012	#37
are you sure about the 300 feet?	hfojvt	May 2012	#42
I would have to go beyond the undisputed facts for speculation as to the timeline.	Tommy_Carcetti	May 2012	#53
but the two minutes is an undisputed fact	hfojvt	May 2012	#66
Home is a place where the only person present...	Daalalou	May 2012	#68
Your point supports Trayvon	Daalalou	May 2012	#58
the two minutes is enough time to get home	hfojvt	May 2012	#79
I agree; I think he continued to look for Trayvon	Daalalou	May 2012	#82
you know, George.....the kind of troll that was sent to this thread...	grasswire	May 2012	#46
The FBI is going to flambe him.	Rex	May 2012	#48
Option B defies all logic and human nature?	Spoonman	May 2012	#47
You're going beyond the undisputed facts and into areas of some dispute.	Tommy_Carcetti	May 2012	#51
Really?	joeglow3	May 2012	#87
Different context though.	Tommy_Carcetti	May 2012	#92
I'm sticking with the facts	Spoonman	May 2012	#101
All the physical evidence merely does is establish that a struggle took place.	Tommy_Carcetti	May 2012	#102
You obviously missed your calling........	Spoonman	May 2012	#103
And millions of others have convicted Trayvon	Daalalou	May 2012	#105
Very good points	Spoonman	May 2012	#109
You're wrong about the facts	Daalalou	May 2012	#114
Assumptions Again.......	Spoonman	May 2012	#119
My response	Daalalou	May 2012	#125
But would you agree that Trayvon deciding to ambush Zimmerman out of the blue doesn't seem logical?	Tommy_Carcetti	May 2012	#115
You are still trying to place YOUR logic into the mind of a 17 year old	Spoonman	May 2012	#122
What Zimmerman story are you going off of?	Tommy_Carcetti	May 2012	#123
His original story......	Spoonman	May 2012	#126
I think you are glossing over the fact that Trayvon was doing nothing wrong that evening.	Tommy_Carcetti	May 2012	#129
I cannot read minds, that much is true.	Tommy_Carcetti	May 2012	#106
Trayvon wasn't that big, and Zimmerman was no longer fat	Daalalou	May 2012	#59
The ambush story has always bothered me the most...	Sancho	May 2012	#57
Powerful.	H2O Man	May 2012	#75
Psst... his dad wasn't home.	Fawke Em	May 2012	#78
Noted.	Tommy_Carcetti	May 2012	#81
I don't know what happened, but a high school kid wanting to beat the crap out of some creep	Vattel	May 2012	#113
Zimmerman doesn't just allege a verbal confrontation, though.	Tommy_Carcetti	May 2012	#120
You overestimate the maturity and prudence of teenagers.	Vattel	May 2012	#127
To the contrary, I think you underestimate them.	Tommy_Carcetti	May 2012	#128
The defied logic comes in because of other circumstances you omitt in his situation.	vaberella	May 2012	#132
Good point as to No. 4 ....	Tommy_Carcetti	May 2012	#133
You guys are guessing, and that's fine.	Vattel	May 2012	#134

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