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In the discussion thread: Today in Chicago I saw the effects of police brutality against peace activists with my own eyes [View all]

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Sun May 20, 2012, 10:58 PM

Bjorn Against (8,216 posts)

21. Individuals may have made that claim, that does not mean that they are right

There may be a small number of Black Bloc members who have been violent in the past, but the truth is that violence by protesters is rare. On the rare instances it does happen the media makes a huge deal out of it so people like you who don't participate get the impression that protesters are violent. Those of us who do participate know that nearly all protests are peaceful.

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118 replies	Author	Time	Post
Today in Chicago I saw the effects of police brutality against peace activists with my own eyes [View all]	Bjorn Against	May 2012	OP
Thank you for sharing this	Autumn	May 2012	#1
Growing up in the 60's I can certainly attest to the fact that much learned in	RKP5637	May 2012	#2
Chicago	elleng	May 2012	#3
Big protests in Chicago this week against NATO summit	Bjorn Against	May 2012	#4
'68	TahitiNut	May 2012	#32
Yes, I was there,	elleng	May 2012	#38
I was there too.	xtraxritical	May 2012	#72
chicago democrats know how do do a beatdown.... n/t	IamK	May 2012	#5
Shades of Daley!	postulater	May 2012	#6
The whole world is watching	The Wizard	May 2012	#64
And no one is doing anything about it...	awoke_in_2003	May 2012	#112
So you didn't see what happened.	randome	May 2012	#7
I saw people with blood gushing out of their heads and police threatening violence	Bjorn Against	May 2012	#9
Amen to that. I was there, too.	Peregrine Took	May 2012	#16
Thanks for being there, and thanks for confirming that I am not making this up	Bjorn Against	May 2012	#27
How were the police threatening violence? By forming a line?	randome	May 2012	#19
You have a very short attention span. n/t	Peregrine Took	May 2012	#20
Which is why I appreciate short and concise posts.	randome	May 2012	#23
Right, and even so, the OP said nothing about having witnessed any violence.	elleng	May 2012	#39
I did witness violence	Bjorn Against	May 2012	#41
No, threatening people with weapons is NOT violence,	elleng	May 2012	#44
Fine it is assault then, how does that excuse it exactly?	Bjorn Against	May 2012	#48
Yes, in an ideal world people should be able to speak their minds without being threatened.	elleng	May 2012	#50
Wow, we obviously disagree very strongly on this.	Bjorn Against	May 2012	#52
On the 'same side?'	elleng	May 2012	#55
If you support assault and battery against people exercising the first amendment...	Bjorn Against	May 2012	#57
You appear not to have understood:	elleng	May 2012	#59
Assault and battery are not acceptable	Bjorn Against	May 2012	#60
I would consider holding batons up at protesters to be threatening violence	Bjorn Against	May 2012	#26
I would suspect that if you saw thousands of people coming toward you and taunting you...	randome	May 2012	#29
But there were not thousands of people coming towards the police	Bjorn Against	May 2012	#31
There are no easy answers IF...........	socialist_n_TN	May 2012	#45
I would suspect someone harrassing a peaceful protestor	just1voice	May 2012	#92
Please dont think your pretense fools anyone. Time and time again police have beaten	rhett o rick	May 2012	#107
No, you don't know what side I stand on.	randome	May 2012	#109
I do know you are not standing on the same side as me. You try to rationalize police brutality.	rhett o rick	May 2012	#110
Thanks.	elleng	May 2012	#10
There's all kinds of evidence all over the Internet today.	Hissyspit	May 2012	#13
But I did see what happened, maybe not every detail of it but I saw a lot happen with my own eyes	Bjorn Against	May 2012	#14
I've seen it happen at an OWS protest in New York.	UnrepentantLiberal	May 2012	#47
I believe you. Let those who question you, take part in a protest , let them	crunch60	May 2012	#62
How Jesuitical of you.....	Peregrine Took	May 2012	#11
Oh, christ...	Hissyspit	May 2012	#12
Why bring Him into it??? That's the best ya got?? n/t	Peregrine Took	May 2012	#22
Well, you did too. :-)	Hissyspit	May 2012	#61
Don't worry, there will be video as there always is, which is why the police tried to make taking	sabrina 1	May 2012	#53
witnesses said black bloc did attack the police first	2pooped2pop	May 2012	#80
I don't understand how anyone can tell who is who.	randome	May 2012	#85
yes. they wear all black	2pooped2pop	May 2012	#103
k & r	girl gone mad	May 2012	#8
at what point do we beat back?	Go Vols	May 2012	#15
Being peaceful is the ONLY thing that works	Bjorn Against	May 2012	#18
the general public...	awoke_in_2003	May 2012	#113
It's OWSers on DU who always claim Black Bloc are the violent culprits.	randome	May 2012	#17
Individuals may have made that claim, that does not mean that they are right	Bjorn Against	May 2012	#21
I heard of ONE violent effort from the protesters.	randome	May 2012	#24
The police don't need hundreds in riot gear batons in hand for a non-violent protest	Bjorn Against	May 2012	#25
There were thousands of protesters in Chicago.	randome	May 2012	#28
If they don't know who did it they should investigate, they should not go into riot mode	Bjorn Against	May 2012	#30
Sporting events are contained facilities.	randome	May 2012	#34
The riots at sporting events usually occur when people leave those contained facilities	Bjorn Against	May 2012	#35
I'm sure some cities ARE prepared for violence when a championship game is being played.	randome	May 2012	#68
I doubt you've ever been to a protest march.	lob1	May 2012	#105
I suppose you've seen this thread.	randome	May 2012	#106
I suppose you've seen threads like this.	lob1	May 2012	#111
Put yourself in the shoes of an overwhelmed minority.	Zanzoobar	May 2012	#33
An overwhelmed minority? Not even close.	Bjorn Against	May 2012	#36
I understand, but you were milling about.	Zanzoobar	May 2012	#37
So walking rapidly is a crime that needs riot police to stop it?	Bjorn Against	May 2012	#40
I apologize	Zanzoobar	May 2012	#42
Your flippancy was out of place. If you meant to be sarcastic, and I can't imagine you were serious,	sabrina 1	May 2012	#54
You need images?	starroute	May 2012	#43
Thanks, I did not take pictures of that incident because the medics wanted privacy	Bjorn Against	May 2012	#46
Off topic . . .	RZM	May 2012	#65
No, it's from Louis Jordan's jump blues hit from 1946	starroute	May 2012	#67
Thanks. That must be where they got the bit for the movie	RZM	May 2012	#69
This is horrifying	Catherina	May 2012	#73
The guy in the middle pic ....	Fantastic Anarchist	May 2012	#74
1968, but with less hair.	amandabeech	May 2012	#102
"they stormed the horses. Blood was everywhere"	2pooped2pop	May 2012	#49
I don’t doubt that there are some in the Black Bloc who might	tblue37	May 2012	#84
yes. i agree with that	2pooped2pop	May 2012	#101
Video of the brutality.	Fire Walk With Me	May 2012	#51
Thanks for the vid.	Mc Mike	May 2012	#66
those of us who couldn't be there with you, Thank You All, Dude.	marasinghe	May 2012	#56
k&r	Starry Messenger	May 2012	#58
Today I can say that I am ashamed to call myself an American and	coalition_unwilling	May 2012	#63
I'm proud to call myself a Democrat and an American. And I'm proud of the protestors.	AnotherMcIntosh	May 2012	#75
Then you're too nuanced for this thread.	randome	May 2012	#78
Proud of the cops, are you? N.B.: Rahm Emmanuel (Obama's first Chief of Staff) is their boss. Or,	coalition_unwilling	May 2012	#87
I had to share this	JonLP24	May 2012	#77
I am a proud democrat...	awoke_in_2003	May 2012	#114
I am surprised that anyone is surprised	Doctor_J	May 2012	#70
War!	Eddie Haskell	May 2012	#71
The dumbest post on this thread. Violence is never the answer.	randome	May 2012	#76
Non Violence is the way to go but...	RitchieRich	May 2012	#81
Terrorists???	RitchieRich	May 2012	#82
No, they can't be locked away without a trial.	randome	May 2012	#83
Obama’s Signing Statement on NDAA: ‘I have the power to detain Americans… but I won’t’	RitchieRich	May 2012	#88
i conceed	RitchieRich	May 2012	#89
I despise the NDAA. And the Patriot Act.	randome	May 2012	#90
and things cannot become law...	awoke_in_2003	May 2012	#115
Just how ...	Eddie Haskell	May 2012	#93
How's non-violent resistence been working over the last 20 years	Doctor_J	May 2012	#94
Do you seriously want to start killing people?	randome	May 2012	#96
The protests aren't working	Doctor_J	May 2012	#98
You can't tell me what I have to love.	randome	May 2012	#100
So if the tanks are rolling down the streets, as long as the guns are not pointed at you	Doctor_J	May 2012	#116
No, apparently the answer is to lie back and think of England.	Egalitarian Thug	May 2012	#99
Thanks, brother.	Zorra	May 2012	#79
We now see what they meant by, "9/11 changed everything."	Rex	May 2012	#86
Congress used that to prove their own relevance.	randome	May 2012	#91
a poor memorial to those who've died for us...	RitchieRich	May 2012	#95
Not to mention the Iraqis who died needlessly.	randome	May 2012	#97
Rahm is just another over proud 68 R. Dailey. But in the end he like Dailey will find out that they	jwirr	May 2012	#104
Thanks for sharing your first hand experience about what is going on in Chicago...	midnight	May 2012	#108
I want to see you criticize the Black Bloc as much as you do cops.	bluestate10	May 2012	#117
I will criticize all those who engage in violence	Bjorn Against	May 2012	#118

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