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True Earthling

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49. This is a lot more complicated than I thought.

Sun May 20, 2012, 01:20 AM

May 2012

Thre are a lot of issues that need to be sorted out. Not convinced one way or the other though. How did charity rice destroy the ag sector? Were the yields too low?

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Outrageous! Why are people opposed to GM rice which saves lives and prevents blindness? [View all] True Earthling May 2012 OP

Some of us aren't so much against it... randome May 2012 #1

........ marmar May 2012 #2

+1 (nt) NYC_SKP May 2012 #3

Fantastic, thanks! drokhole May 2012 #6

That is an old article - There is a new strain that yields 10X more Vitamin A True Earthling May 2012 #7

Give it up. Your OP source has been exposed as a fraud. marmar May 2012 #8

I don't care if the article was written by George Bush True Earthling May 2012 #10

More reading for you...... marmar May 2012 #14

There's a lot of gullible people in the world tabasco May 2012 #22

Very true - on both sides of the aisle. True Earthling May 2012 #23

The article you posted was inaccurate... True Earthling May 2012 #12

Umm, I'll trust Vandana Shiva over some crackpot industry shill any day. marmar May 2012 #15

Yes I knew that.... and I didn't call you a fraud. True Earthling May 2012 #19

Vitamin A & beta-carotene are easy to get from food. There are lots of good sources. HiPointDem May 2012 #45

There may be no one more credible on this topic than Vandana Shiva. EFerrari May 2012 #16

No use arguing with luddites. Odin2005 May 2012 #17

Who mentioned Monsanto? You interjected it, and now you're calling people Luddites? marmar May 2012 #18

Why do you hate leafy greens and orange-fleshed squash kestrel91316 May 2012 #39

I don't. I love baby spinach. False Dichotomy. Odin2005 May 2012 #42

Why do you hate children having well-balanced diets, instead of diets consisting mostly of HiPointDem May 2012 #46

This is a lot more complicated than I thought. True Earthling May 2012 #49

Because free rice undercuts market prices, not just for rice but also for other staple grains. When HiPointDem May 2012 #53

But the plan for Golden Rice is for farmers to grow it... True Earthling May 2012 #56

Maybe you should ask yourself *which* farmers. Look past the PR. HiPointDem May 2012 #58

In Nigeria the small family farmers were driven off their land which the peanut farms then occupied jwirr May 2012 #77

Bingo. jwirr May 2012 #76

* ronnie624 May 2012 #79

"expected...potential...depend on" - any hard data published that would prove the claims? Prometheus Bound May 2012 #35

There is a clinical trial by Tufts University True Earthling May 2012 #43

I see. There is no proof of the claims. So this thread is a waste of time. Prometheus Bound May 2012 #66

Wait, you are citing a study not even finished yet??? obamanut2012 May 2012 #72

Hear! Hear! burrowowl May 2012 #32

Personally, I think your source author is a crackpot: NYC_SKP May 2012 #4

Ridley is not so easy to pin down pscot May 2012 #9

Bjørn Lomborg? Just for the record, his PhD is in political science not nutrition. Prometheus Bound May 2012 #5

How about Ingo Potrykus? True Earthling May 2012 #11

Because people think just because Monstanto misuses genetic engineering... Odin2005 May 2012 #13

You really like to pen OPs with right wing memes stevenleser May 2012 #20

Since when is wanting to save lives and prevent blindness a "right wing meme"? True Earthling May 2012 #21

Nope, that is not why me and others are here. We are here to talk with other stevenleser May 2012 #24

Not a republican True Earthling May 2012 #27

The CATO Institute is funded by the Koch brothers and big corporations. UnrepentantLiberal May 2012 #28

Where's the connection to the Cato Institute? True Earthling May 2012 #29

The author of your OP is a frequent contributor to CATO. UnrepentantLiberal May 2012 #30

I admit I do like Ridley so guilty as charged.. True Earthling May 2012 #33

This line sounds like classic Cato double speak. UnrepentantLiberal May 2012 #41

But But Read His Profile HangOnKids May 2012 #68

The OP is an obvious RW troll. I give him another 2 weeks. kestrel91316 May 2012 #40

Yep, obvious troll is obvious. They all think they are being slick. nt stevenleser May 2012 #44

yeah, i think their strategy to post the most controversial issues.. DCBob May 2012 #59

I called it last September- Starry Messenger May 2012 #50

With your link that is three posts with right wing memes. Unfortunately, poster has too many stevenleser May 2012 #54

I believe you are correct. Starry Messenger May 2012 #57

MIRT can PRR them with +100 posts obamanut2012 May 2012 #64

You and Starry are mistaken obamanut2012 May 2012 #63

Yup, I first notived it obamanut2012 May 2012 #62

So you've noticed that too? obamanut2012 May 2012 #61

in the meantime, is anyone trying to provide these people with regular vitamin A? eShirl May 2012 #25

They can get plenty of Vitamin A from eating leafy greens and kestrel91316 May 2012 #38

Charity rice from america undercuts prices in their ag sector, meaning small farmers lose their land HiPointDem May 2012 #47

Absolutely true. This led to starvation in Haiti. UnrepentantLiberal May 2012 #52

I Was In A Focus Group About This in 2000 otohara May 2012 #26

Because it is easy to ask other people to die for YOUR principles Sen. Walter Sobchak May 2012 #31

Charity rice from america is making it impossible for traditional agriculture to exist. It HiPointDem May 2012 #48

traditional agriculture doesn't need to exist Sen. Walter Sobchak May 2012 #51

It doesn't have to feed 7 billion people. And neither is hi-tech agriculture feeding 7 billion HiPointDem May 2012 #55

The problem being that agribusiness *won't* feed six or seven or however many billion people.. Fumesucker May 2012 #67

Modern agriculture most certainly will, if it is allowed to... Sen. Walter Sobchak May 2012 #80

Where's the profit in feeding the starving? Fumesucker May 2012 #81

This message was self-deleted by its author Mnemosyne May 2012 #34

Wow. Another RW talking point from you. Amazing. kestrel91316 May 2012 #36

Because Vit A a/o beta-carotene are so easy to find in foods that the only reason kids would HiPointDem May 2012 #37

GM food, along with the "Green Revolution", has done a good job feeding the world's population bhikkhu May 2012 #60

can this genetically modified rice produce its own seeds? ibegurpard May 2012 #65

Those are the real questions that need answering. Farmers in Africa and around the world have jwirr May 2012 #78

Why are people opposed? 99Forever May 2012 #69

+1. Why do GM companies oppose their products being labeled "GM"? That's the real argument. nt Honeycombe8 May 2012 #73

The answer to that is obvious. 99Forever May 2012 #75

How about this? sendero May 2012 #70

I was thinking that, too obamanut2012 May 2012 #74

Because it actually doesn't? quaker bill May 2012 #71

why not add carrots and sweet potatoes to their diets instead magical thyme May 2012 #82