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In the discussion thread: Vote for Democrats. We have no choice, really. [View all]

Fri May 18, 2012, 08:23 PM

Dragonfli (5,062 posts)

99. Well, he said he would vote for Democrats plural and encouraged others to as well, How many Dems

will you be voting for in November?

I'd say he is far more the loyal Democrat than even you, and I know you take loyalty to OUR Democratic party very, very, seriously.

I will vote for them as well, but not to pass YOUR loyalty tests, I will do so only to buy some time for us to find some real Democratic leadership, it has been a thirty year wait thus far.

The lesser of two evils is still evil, many of us want to fight for something more like the opposite of evil, I think Warren may provide that in future.

Or perhaps some other leader that actually might care for the working poor and poor as well as the very small (and growing smaller) middle class and the very exclusive .1%

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131 replies	Author	Time	Post
Vote for Democrats. We have no choice, really. [View all]	MannyGoldstein	May 2012	OP
I find it ironic that you invoke FDR.	TheWraith	May 2012	#1
In FDR's first four years, unemployment dropped by 40% and	MannyGoldstein	May 2012	#4
And then	ProSense	May 2012	#7
If it went from 25% to 12% in his first 4 years, Manny's wrong. It dropped 52%.	rug	May 2012	#9
Not quite, but your graph does have value	MannyGoldstein	May 2012	#12
So FDR gets a pass for not being a "full-fledged Liberal" but you're holding your nose for Obama?!	FarLeftFist	May 2012	#15
At least FDR was willing to try Liberal policies	MannyGoldstein	May 2012	#22
What do you mean "FDR" tried them? Without that Congress, none of it could have	treestar	May 2012	#126
Really?	ProSense	May 2012	#17
Really.	MannyGoldstein	May 2012	#23
I'm guessing the exclamation point at the end.	Luminous Animal	May 2012	#30
Actually,	ProSense	May 2012	#32
You must think I'm some sort of idealogue	MannyGoldstein	May 2012	#33
Did you	ProSense	May 2012	#36
H...	Luminous Animal	May 2012	#40
Yes. My mother is an expert on this. She lived through that time.	JDPriestly	May 2012	#55
People easily forget who Obama's first Chief of Staff (Rahm Emmanuel) was and	coalition_unwilling	May 2012	#113
Don't be deterred. We can do better..	mvd	May 2012	#8
Yes	ProSense	May 2012	#10
We just won't agree all the time. But..	mvd	May 2012	#14
Times have changed ALOT since FDR	FarLeftFist	May 2012	#13
Given that imports and exports were only a small percentage of GDP back then	MannyGoldstein	May 2012	#16
That's exactly my point. We made stuff HERE and our citizens bought stuff made HERE.	FarLeftFist	May 2012	#19
So you'll join me in fighting "free" trade agreements?	MannyGoldstein	May 2012	#25
Except you're not fighting anything, except here on DU. Meanwhile, I'm in the streets OFTEN.	FarLeftFist	May 2012	#50
LOL. That's not fair!	MannyGoldstein	May 2012	#69
And then	ProSense	May 2012	#21
Reciprocal trade agreements can work.	JDPriestly	May 2012	#59
"Free" Trade is bad	Icicle	May 2012	#89
"Trade agreements" are what we have	bhikkhu	May 2012	#121
And then our greedy millionaires decided they could make more money if they	JDPriestly	May 2012	#57
Not to mention the Pecora Commission which educated Americans about the	JDPriestly	May 2012	#54
The Pecora Commission	ProSense	May 2012	#56
Bush and the Republicans? Who cares. They left when the realization	JDPriestly	May 2012	#63
The Pecora Commission	ProSense	May 2012	#74
Given that Bush prosecuted more financial fraud than Obama...	MannyGoldstein	May 2012	#67
Yeah,	ProSense	May 2012	#71
I'm a fan of Bush? Really?	MannyGoldstein	May 2012	#73
You keep	ProSense	May 2012	#76
Correlation does not imply causation	MannyGoldstein	May 2012	#84
It was not FDR alone	treestar	May 2012	#125
Thank you!.	nevergiveup	May 2012	#5
FDR Was Elected To FOUR TERMS... 'Nuff Said...	WillyT	May 2012	#37
He rounded up American citizens into internment camps. Obama more progressive. NUFF SAID!	FarLeftFist	May 2012	#51
If we were at war, let's say, with Mexico, who knows what Obama would do.	JDPriestly	May 2012	#60
Seriously? Not if you go by economics only.	mmonk	May 2012	#66
How many Japanese-Americans were killed by the camps?	MannyGoldstein	May 2012	#68
So	ProSense	May 2012	#72
Which part of "Interning Japanese-Americans was wrong." do	MannyGoldstein	May 2012	#75
So why	ProSense	May 2012	#77
Already explained. nt	MannyGoldstein	May 2012	#83
Wow... Your Sweeping Grasp Of History Is Truly...	WillyT	May 2012	#86
According to my parents who lived through the Depression and my mother,	JDPriestly	May 2012	#53
+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!!	WillyT	May 2012	#87
I still have some sugar ration stamps. Sheets of them.	JDPriestly	May 2012	#96
Jesus Christ, people!	ibegurpard	May 2012	#58
Sore winners. nt	MannyGoldstein	May 2012	#98
Or maybe we don't believe you're being genuine...nt	SidDithers	May 2012	#108
Don't you have anyone in your own party that needs loyalty testing?	Dragonfli	May 2012	#116
...	SidDithers	May 2012	#118
.	Dragonfli	May 2012	#119
It's interesting how these vociferous critics	treestar	May 2012	#127
Damn! That thread got 238 recs! That's gotta be up there for DU3!	Poll_Blind	May 2012	#2
me, too... n/t	chervilant	May 2012	#97
Your post, while strongly put, had good points	mvd	May 2012	#3
Yeah,	ProSense	May 2012	#6
Pro ...	slipslidingaway	May 2012	#38
Apparently,	ProSense	May 2012	#46
you seem to ignore facts and data	krawhitham	May 2012	#48
Speaking of	ProSense	May 2012	#49
They should get a friend who agrees with them and start walking their precinct.	JDPriestly	May 2012	#62
Actually,	ProSense	May 2012	#80
Ah, a list of "accomplishments." How original.	JDPriestly	May 2012	#61
False.	ProSense	May 2012	#79
I am amazed at folks I know who eat beans often	Thinkingabout	May 2012	#11
Manny. I am moderate. But like you, Liz Warren has my vote.	bluestate10	May 2012	#18
Well, I'd give you a run for your money.	MannyGoldstein	May 2012	#24
The last Republican I voted for was Sen. Nancy Landon Kassebaum	longship	May 2012	#20
I agreed with your post last night, and I agree with this post today.	ScreamingMeemie	May 2012	#26
"I will never work against a Dem."	ProSense	May 2012	#27
Yep. A lot of us here are of the same mind.	Zorra	May 2012	#28
I'll do what I can	MannyGoldstein	May 2012	#31
Our best bet is to make sure the majority in both houses	Jamaal510	May 2012	#29
+1000	abelenkpe	May 2012	#42
+10,000!	lunasun	May 2012	#47
Here is a choice.	Herlong	May 2012	#34
Should he look at pictures of kittens and bunny wabbits too?	just1voice	May 2012	#91
No choice is a tough pill to swallow!	Amster Dan	May 2012	#35
Vote for Democrats but take a long look in the mirror.	pa28	May 2012	#39
Voting democratic is why I CAN look in the mirror.	Herlong	May 2012	#41
I was all ready to say "you forgot the sarcasm smiley", but	NashvilleLefty	May 2012	#43
It's also about the realization that if we don't get out the vote, our vote is pointless.	Herlong	May 2012	#45
As a woman of course I vote D	abelenkpe	May 2012	#44
I'm with you, Manny. And I, too, am fortunate enough to get to vote for one	JDPriestly	May 2012	#52
I pretty much vote a straight ticket these days.	Rhiannon12866	May 2012	#64
yah that pretty much sums up my feelings too	Douglas Carpenter	May 2012	#65
Thank you	DonCoquixote	May 2012	#70
Bottom line	jambo101	May 2012	#78
dem party = vote for us, we suck less.	KG	May 2012	#81
Just can't bring yourself to say "Vote for Obama", eh?...nt	SidDithers	May 2012	#82
Neither can I.	bvar22	May 2012	#88
Well, he said he would vote for Democrats plural and encouraged others to as well, How many Dems	Dragonfli	May 2012	#99
...	SidDithers	May 2012	#100
.	Dragonfli	May 2012	#103
Thanks!	MannyGoldstein	May 2012	#102
I have perhaps 100 replies to me consisting of nothing but dots and a smiley.	Dragonfli	May 2012	#107
Obama's not a Democrat?	morningfog	May 2012	#105
All Democrats are Obama?...nt	SidDithers	May 2012	#110
Wouldn't a vote for Democrats, especially in General Forum, include Obama?	morningfog	May 2012	#112
Maybe it would be a good idea to NOT spend the next 6 months discouraging people about Democrats	scheming daemons	May 2012	#85
Hmmm... Maybe we can make a deal...	MannyGoldstein	May 2012	#94
Maybe it's not the people who are at fault, maybe if Democrats start working for those	sabrina 1	May 2012	#104
We aren't just victims	treestar	May 2012	#128
We really do not choose our leaders. There are selection committees that choose who will run with	sabrina 1	May 2012	#129
Exactly	just1voice	May 2012	#90
That would look great on a bumper sticker,	KamaAina	May 2012	#92
Occupy.	Fire Walk With Me	May 2012	#93
!!!	MannyGoldstein	May 2012	#95
Lots of people.... Good to see....	midnight	May 2012	#101
I wanted to reply to your post but to be honest I have reached the same conclusions	Dragonfli	May 2012	#106
...	SidDithers	May 2012	#109
.	Dragonfli	May 2012	#117
Seems like a lot of us have reached the same conclusion!	MannyGoldstein	May 2012	#122
As always, straight Dem ticket for me.	SammyWinstonJack	May 2012	#111
This post was hidden by jury decision.	peace pilgrim 19	May 2012	#114
I, for one, appreciate your willingness to see both sides of the situation.	randome	May 2012	#115
Thanks for your half-hearted and belated	MineralMan	May 2012	#120
Looking for a full-throated endorsement of "free" trade, lower corporate taxes,	MannyGoldstein	May 2012	#123
I have a choice	nolabels	May 2012	#124
not good enough Manny!! Unless you can love and believe in President Obama and the Democratic Party	Douglas Carpenter	May 2012	#130
For a certain group, clearly.	MannyGoldstein	May 2012	#131

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