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112. Treyvon's father said voice on tape calling for help was not his son -
Thu May 17, 2012, 07:06 PM
May 2012

- according to recent ABC news report. Link below. 3rd paragraph.

The report states that documents indicate it was Zimmerman who can be heard calling for help 14 times on the recording.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-martin-documents-released-shooting-george-zimmerman/story?id=16371852#.T7WCpEVikf7

No. marybourg May 2012 #1
The doctor was his family doctor so... I throw out anything that he says, in light of the pictures ScreamingMeemie May 2012 #2
I decided a long time ago that Zimmerman's actions were morally wrong. I am still undecided... slackmaster May 2012 #3
Hell no. EOTE May 2012 #4
No ananda May 2012 #5
No! K.T.M. May 2012 #6
The small child was over 6 feet tall. dkf May 2012 #16
I believe the poster was being sarcastic. nt. Mariana May 2012 #36
Yes obamanut2012 May 2012 #77
and has been shown the door. NoGOPZone May 2012 #83
I didn't realize it was sarcasm - thought it was hyperbole. Chemisse May 2012 #99
Welcome to DU obamanut2012 May 2012 #78
No DJ13 May 2012 #7
Is that a loaded question? nt Remmah2 May 2012 #8
No. But I knew that is how some would see it. Stinky The Clown May 2012 #9
Makes me wonder what has happened to our justice system. Remmah2 May 2012 #19
What does nt mean LACarMan May 2012 #29
Same as NTXT nt Remmah2 May 2012 #35
Heh, why would you think that answered his/her question? Stinky The Clown May 2012 #37
What's the problem? nt Remmah2 May 2012 #159
So nt means no text? LACarMan May 2012 #175
Sometimes the message-text box has to have a minimum input. So... Remmah2 May 2012 #177
I remember a few years ago when I asked that very same question. Chemisse May 2012 #101
In case you haven't received a decent reply as of yet... EOTE May 2012 #103
It means there is no message in the body of the post, Chemisse May 2012 #104
No. You don't shoot someone for punching you in the nose treestar May 2012 #10
Actually, you can shoot someone for punching you in the nose. What you CAN'T do is pick a fight, slackmaster May 2012 #14
You no doubt do NOT shoot someone while being punched in the nose on the ground uponit7771 May 2012 #24
It seems to me it would be very difficult to do so slackmaster May 2012 #47
And not from an 'intermediate distance" nt stevenleser May 2012 #132
He was shot from intermediate range, not up close. alarimer May 2012 #154
You are mistaken about what intermediate range means in this context. Google some definitions. slackmaster May 2012 #161
Just to expound on what you said... TheWraith May 2012 #94
Getting punched in the nose is not fatal treestar May 2012 #109
I disagree completely. Any blow to the head can be fatal, or cause a person to fall and receive... slackmaster May 2012 #160
I haven't made up my mind yet B2G May 2012 #11
I haven't either. badtoworse May 2012 #12
Perhaps a better question would be, George Zimmerman is on medication which can be used for ADHD.. nenagh May 2012 #13
I havent seen the actual report anywhere online NoGOPZone May 2012 #15
no, the facts remain the same. Bluerthanblue May 2012 #17
My view of what happened hasn't changed since the very beginning RZM May 2012 #18
Between the police's poor job investagating the scene, and the media sensationalizing the story, ZombieHorde May 2012 #20
Nope. Iggo May 2012 #21
No. Lugnut May 2012 #22
****THE REPORT IS FALSE, NO INJURIES TO KNUCKES IT WAS SMALL CUT ON FINGER***** uponit7771 May 2012 #23
Unfortunately, that small cut on the finger is more than enough to Solomon May 2012 #30
Yeap, some will look for any reason to justify ZMans actions uponit7771 May 2012 #34
No dwilso40641 May 2012 #25
His injuries aren't the relevant point... brooklynite May 2012 #26
+1 uponit7771 May 2012 #27
exactly! I don't see that point made often enough renate May 2012 #91
That is so true. Chemisse May 2012 #105
No. My opinion is that Zimmerman never should've left his car deutsey May 2012 #28
Especially since the police dispatcher told him to back off and stand down. mac56 May 2012 #32
+1 uponit7771 May 2012 #43
I still don't know enough to come to any conclusion. dkf May 2012 #31
**Reasonable** fear of his life cthulu2016 May 2012 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids May 2012 #44
Strange You say You Don't Know Enough To Come To A Conclusion HangOnKids May 2012 #45
I don't read it that way at all metalbot May 2012 #63
We don't need no stinkin' legal system B2G May 2012 #66
Wow Can You Paint My BackYard Fence With That Broad Brush? HangOnKids May 2012 #69
I wasn't chatting with you to begin with B2G May 2012 #73
Fine And Dandy HangOnKids May 2012 #67
Self defense is an affirmative defense, though treestar May 2012 #110
Post removed Post removed May 2012 #53
LOL.....N/T BronxBoy May 2012 #56
Bow Down To Pithy Greatness! HangOnKids May 2012 #58
and what, exactly was he afraid of: the hoodie? the skittles? or the skin color? noiretextatique May 2012 #61
he was so scared he got out of his truck to pursue martin.. frylock May 2012 #86
So if Trayvon had shot and killed Zimmerman, you would be ok with that too? yardwork May 2012 #122
If they had been fighting over the gun and he shot Zimmerman... dkf May 2012 #131
What if there was no fighting over the gun? What if Trayvon had had a gun and shot Zimmerman? yardwork May 2012 #135
If Zimmerman was over Martin and pounding on him then yes I would consider dkf May 2012 #139
That's not what I'm saying. I'm asking you to reverse the people and keep everything else the same. yardwork May 2012 #140
If he felt threatened while being beaten up then yes. dkf May 2012 #143
What if he was not being beaten up and didn't have a gun pulled on him? Still ok? yardwork May 2012 #144
He had to have been reasonably in fear of his life. dkf May 2012 #158
If being followed doesn't qualify, then how was Zimmerman in fear of his life? yardwork May 2012 #166
At least according to his story it's because he was getting his head bashed in Travelman May 2012 #168
But you stated that you were certain that Zimmerman was in fear of his life. yardwork May 2012 #170
I did? Travelman May 2012 #174
Neither do I. Skip Intro May 2012 #134
That sums up my point of view as well. Nicely said. Vattel May 2012 #151
to the right.... to the right.... fascisthunter May 2012 #150
No. jp11 May 2012 #38
What we DO know is that Trayvon was scared of the adult stranger that had been following him and blm May 2012 #41
That's what gets me. We know what both states of mind were before the crap went Solomon May 2012 #93
Exactly. Lilyeye May 2012 #115
No. I say a gun shouldn't end a fight - especially a fight where a teen was standing his ground blm May 2012 #39
Not at all NoPasaran May 2012 #40
Not at all. Confirms what I've thought. It will be interesting to see if sinkingfeeling May 2012 #42
Yes. An eyewitness was on TV the very next day after the shooting. GreenStormCloud May 2012 #60
and another witness disputes that wtinesses' claims noiretextatique May 2012 #64
Here is the link: GreenStormCloud May 2012 #90
Wow. I hadn't seen that. Martin was on top beating Zimmerman? Hassin Bin Sober May 2012 #157
my nose is broken, but i don't seek medical attention noiretextatique May 2012 #65
WTF? cthulu2016 May 2012 #72
then why bring it up? i guess he's using it as an excuse for murder noiretextatique May 2012 #80
Yes pscot May 2012 #46
Why? The autopsy shows the boy has a cut on his finger. vaberella May 2012 #87
You need 12 jurors to agree it was murder pscot May 2012 #146
No. Ganja Ninja May 2012 #48
no. barbtries May 2012 #49
The 911 call indicates Zimmerman brought the fight to Trayvon. Courtesy Flush May 2012 #50
No. I always believed that Trayvon hit him, and that Zimmerman was still a murderer. ieoeja May 2012 #51
Where can I see those myspace postings? Lilyeye May 2012 #118
No jwirr May 2012 #52
I have my own opinions Meiko May 2012 #54
The Trail Of What? HangOnKids May 2012 #59
Pictures don't lie marlakay May 2012 #55
No. Zimmerman's story still makes no sense to me. Tommy_Carcetti May 2012 #57
the bastard is guilty as sin noiretextatique May 2012 #62
The autopsy report has not changed my view much, which is that coalition_unwilling May 2012 #68
he was carrying a gun bowens43 May 2012 #70
My opinion is really irrelevant. MineralMan May 2012 #71
No, I still think the shooting was unjustified. n/t RebelOne May 2012 #74
Not in the least. 99Forever May 2012 #75
Confirmed my thoughts -- only two wounds on Travyon obamanut2012 May 2012 #76
I'll wait for the prosecutions case and the evidence they offer. Life Long Dem May 2012 #79
NYT just had an article deterring missteps by the police in investigating the case alp227 May 2012 #81
No!! What the hell was Zimmerman doing harrassing somebody who was just walking WI_DEM May 2012 #82
nope frylock May 2012 #84
Yes. It's cemented it. mwooldri May 2012 #85
i haven't heard of any new info that changes anything. Zimmerman is still a murdering thug JI7 May 2012 #88
I have no clue if he is guilty or not. NCTraveler May 2012 #89
No. MissMarple May 2012 #92
Uh, no. The kid was defending himself from a guy who was stalking him. Butterbean May 2012 #95
No. One had a gun and followed the other until one of them was dead lunatica May 2012 #96
No. Starry Messenger May 2012 #97
No. He was stalked. Chemisse May 2012 #98
I have never been sure of his guilt or innocence - lynne May 2012 #100
No, it only strenthens my view of what I think happened. RedSpartan May 2012 #102
No....How can Zimmer plead SYG defense when clearly heard just before the shot "HELP ME" opihimoimoi May 2012 #107
Treyvon's father said voice on tape calling for help was not his son - lynne May 2012 #112
No it doesn't. Read the 4th paragraph where Trayvon's father says that he recognized his son's voice yardwork May 2012 #119
Thank you, I see that now - lynne May 2012 #123
That information has been published in news reports for months now. yardwork May 2012 #128
If he had carried mace instead of a gun..... Kingofalldems May 2012 #106
I suspect Zimmerman would have ended up with a can of Mace up his ass slackmaster May 2012 #108
Makes no sense Kingofalldems May 2012 #164
Nope -- I'll wait for all of the evidence and then make up my mind. nt CokeMachine May 2012 #111
Those details seem irrelevant to me Nevernose May 2012 #113
Yup I think he's more guilty now than I did and I always thought he was guilty madokie May 2012 #114
No. Trayvon had as much right to defend himself as Zimmy claims to have. appleannie1 May 2012 #116
I'm leaning toward the belief that Zimmerman will walk kudzu22 May 2012 #117
No. I am certain that Zimmerman stalked and killed a young man because of racial profiling. yardwork May 2012 #120
No. I still have no idea what really happened that night. Throd May 2012 #121
Nope. I still believe Trayvon is the victim here and any post-mortem attempts Cleita May 2012 #124
Not sure of guilt but the whole issue was with how the police handled it underpants May 2012 #125
what autopsy? all I've seen so far is third person PR. mulsh May 2012 #126
I got fucking PISSED when MSNBC posted that on Facebook last night Amerigo Vespucci May 2012 #127
No bigwillq May 2012 #129
No... because from the start, I never had an opinion on his guilt or innocence. -..__... May 2012 #130
I still think Zimmerman was the aggressor and should be.. mvd May 2012 #133
No! Zimmerman was the instigator and aggressor.. tokenlib May 2012 #136
No - white adult male stalks kid TBF May 2012 #137
I think his mom is Hispanic. Zax2me May 2012 #145
And that negates an adult stalking a child and murdering him? OK ..... TBF May 2012 #156
No. Zimmerman was in predatory mode from the moment he began following Trayvon in his SUV. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #138
If one switches around genders and races maybe it's clearer grok May 2012 #141
I'll bite Daalalou May 2012 #148
That sound's about right. grok May 2012 #155
No. Mr. Martin had every right to defend himself from Zimmerman. Dawson Leery May 2012 #142
Guess the pictures of injuries were doctored. Zax2me May 2012 #147
No bruises consistant with fight on Martins fist and you STILL want to defend ZMan? uponit7771 May 2012 #153
a little info on bruising belcffub May 2012 #163
how do explain the pictures taken at the police station noiretextatique May 2012 #162
There is no way this story can be felix_numinous May 2012 #149
Nope. A kid is still dead. alarimer May 2012 #152
Nope. The additional information is all chaff MurrayDelph May 2012 #165
No Zimmerman ran after Martin. Martin was probabbly scared out of his mind. nt Quixote1818 May 2012 #167
Yes... it has ....No way will he be convicted of 2nd Degree Murder... virginia mountainman May 2012 #169
what, that he smoked some pot in the past thirty days and seems to have stood his ground arely staircase May 2012 #171
No Riley18 May 2012 #172
no. magical thyme May 2012 #173
Not at all TorchTheWitch May 2012 #176
No. I still think his guilt should and will be decided by a jury. crayfish May 2012 #178
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