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4th law of robotics

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70. "our long term survival requires working knowledge of the plow, not the sword (or gun)."
Thu May 17, 2012, 12:11 PM
May 2012

Long term survival also requires short term survival.

72 hours. rrneck May 2012 #1
I prefer having enough supplies for a month. Johnny Rico May 2012 #51
Or if we have another "Brownie" running FEMA. nt rrneck May 2012 #65
I would go a bit longer than that 4th law of robotics May 2012 #67
You really should have more than 72 hours. TheWraith May 2012 #123
Yep, get 'em now! RKP5637 May 2012 #2
EMPs is among Gingrich's favorite scams. immoderate May 2012 #3
Hate to break it to you B2G May 2012 #22
Really? From whom? immoderate May 2012 #30
From whomever has the ability to explode a nuke over our heads B2G May 2012 #32
Will that prevent us from vaporizing the culprit? immoderate May 2012 #35
The idea is B2G May 2012 #39
Have you read "One Second After" by William R. Forstchen? Johnny Rico May 2012 #53
I have... B2G May 2012 #59
My sister is listening to the audio version right now. Johnny Rico May 2012 #64
+1 4th law of robotics May 2012 #74
We have the nuclear subs! immoderate May 2012 #60
and I'm will to bet that B2G May 2012 #66
Yeah, and look how that brought about the end of the world. progressoid May 2012 #101
Why wouldn't they just nuke us? Because an EMP attack could kill far more Americans. Johnny Rico May 2012 #75
Not only that... B2G May 2012 #77
Although cities, once they aren't cared for, fall apart *quickly*. Johnny Rico May 2012 #91
You could still strip it for copper wiring 4th law of robotics May 2012 #104
Of course, with electronics disabled and 90% of the population dead NoPasaran May 2012 #135
I doubt that it would be that successful. TheWraith May 2012 #132
The big question is whether or not an EMP attack would kill the power grid & all transportation. Johnny Rico May 2012 #137
Funny thing about being able to retaliate . . . 4th law of robotics May 2012 #76
So should we nuke them first -- based on science fiction? immoderate May 2012 #92
Love your tagline...so appropriate. B2G May 2012 #93
No, we should employ our tragically poor reading skills to completely misinterpret the response 4th law of robotics May 2012 #102
My main idea is an EMP attack is ridiculous. No one will attempt it. immoderate May 2012 #118
Crashing a plane in to a building is ridiculous. No one will attempt it. 4th law of robotics May 2012 #119
Post removed Post removed May 2012 #122
"if a bunch of camel jockeys can hijack some planes" 4th law of robotics May 2012 #127
We know electromagnetic pulses happen and work because of science. TheWraith May 2012 #124
I didn't say impossible. I said ridiculous. immoderate May 2012 #125
It was "unpredictable" in 1962 when we didn't know anything about it. TheWraith May 2012 #126
I think the poster you are responding to is profoundly ignorant on this subject 4th law of robotics May 2012 #128
I think you're correct. TheWraith May 2012 #131
The economic damage of 9/11 was tremendous 4th law of robotics May 2012 #136
This message was self-deleted by its author rppper May 2012 #114
If you had read the link I provided B2G May 2012 #62
LOL, so are aliens and 9.0 earthquakes and super flu outbreaks! Logical May 2012 #80
As others have said and EMP is a real phenomenon 4th law of robotics May 2012 #68
I think it's a good idea to keep a store of food, water and other necessities Marrah_G May 2012 #4
I could see some of these folks making sure an EMP happens Taverner May 2012 #5
These idiots will be sitting ducks to roving bands of starving brigands. Odin2005 May 2012 #6
Most of those idiots have more guns than some small countries. nt NickB79 May 2012 #14
Except you can't eat or drink guns. FSogol May 2012 #19
+1... Javaman May 2012 #21
And the economic situation we find ourselves in now - rising prises, cuts to safety net programs - jwirr May 2012 #71
No - but food and water doesn't block bullets dmallind May 2012 #38
Spare me your masturbatory gun fantasies. FSogol May 2012 #41
Speaking of plows and guns... Johnny Rico May 2012 #63
"our long term survival requires working knowledge of the plow, not the sword (or gun)." 4th law of robotics May 2012 #70
Since I know how to garden etc. we will make a deal. You can hunt and protect us and we will feed jwirr May 2012 #72
If the "rule of law" is the only thing that keeps you from killing your neighbors ... surrealAmerican May 2012 #108
Most of the well armed preppers are rural ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #52
These people tend to stockpile both food and guns 4th law of robotics May 2012 #69
I keep six months or so worth in my pantry of short and long storage items. Mojorabbit May 2012 #7
Well, the Sun could do it RobertEarl May 2012 #8
I knew I had read some articles on it earlier.Thanks for the links. nt Mojorabbit May 2012 #43
Scary stuff, eh? RobertEarl May 2012 #45
He Does ProfessorGAC May 2012 #54
That's cute RobertEarl May 2012 #56
Snarkiness Has No Effect On Me ProfessorGAC May 2012 #94
While solar flares are real, that article is fantasy. TheWraith May 2012 #129
I trust Truthout more than a Wraith RobertEarl May 2012 #133
"TEOTWAWKI"... -..__... May 2012 #9
We try to keep ourselves ready for an earthquake abelenkpe May 2012 #10
Yeah, Northridge did suck. I was living in Burbank when it hit... Javaman May 2012 #23
Loma Prieta was no picnic either B2G May 2012 #28
I think the PNW is considered a pretty safe bet... progressivebydesign May 2012 #86
I should keep an extra stash of goods in the wintertime, ZombieHorde May 2012 #11
There are of course scam artists out to take advantage of people jp11 May 2012 #12
Prepping is total sanity. napoleon_in_rags May 2012 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author napoleon_in_rags May 2012 #100
If you follow the environmental/ecological news, it is only a matter of time before hardships set in NickB79 May 2012 #15
+1 Javaman May 2012 #24
+1 good post. napoleon_in_rags May 2012 #111
Here in the earthquake district of Southern California, JDPriestly May 2012 #16
If civilization collapses any preparation is likely delaying the inevitable. TexasProgresive May 2012 #17
My plan for all of the above... Javaman May 2012 #27
Who needs those headaches? My plan: patronize a saloon :) - n/t coalition_unwilling May 2012 #78
LOL that would work in my area!!!! jwirr May 2012 #81
Yes to all the above Mojorabbit May 2012 #47
Your point is well taken - we know how to do 1-3 but have never had to deal with 4. Ready but jwirr May 2012 #79
I scored 4 for 4. What do I win? NickB79 May 2012 #96
How are these guys different from "survivalists"? JHB May 2012 #18
Many ways ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #31
Ok. Different definitions, then JHB May 2012 #34
"the ones who are Waiting for Mad Max." Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #37
all chaps are assless belcffub May 2012 #110
I separate the survivalists from the preppers of either stripe ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #55
I have been the driving force behind my families prepping for the long term. We all got to know my jwirr May 2012 #83
I'm not a prepper or survivalist... and I don't support them. Hassin Bin Sober May 2012 #61
I live in tornado country... Javaman May 2012 #20
There was a series done on dailykos.com a few years ago adigal May 2012 #49
Just remember the rule of "3's"... Javaman May 2012 #57
Like many things melm00se May 2012 #25
I live where there is a significant probability of a major earthquake with widespread damage. slackmaster May 2012 #26
Quake prep site from State of CA...lots of good information Bluenorthwest May 2012 #48
Its a good place to start ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #58
It makes sense, to a point ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #29
I think of it as another form of insurance Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #36
Lover Boy is a "semi-prepper" Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #33
Here's the CDC on the Zombie Apocalypse Bluenorthwest May 2012 #46
I am not preparing. sendero May 2012 #40
Your last sentence discribes the freedom that my parents demonstrated to all of us their entire life jwirr May 2012 #89
I have a month worth of food and water in the house at all times. sarcasmo May 2012 #42
If you do not prep for disasters that are actual potentials where you live, you are nuts.... Bluenorthwest May 2012 #44
Practical. I have a month's worth of food and water stored. Johnny Rico May 2012 #50
It's like any generally good idea: some people take it to unhealthy extremes 4th law of robotics May 2012 #73
there are two types of preppers, and within that there are people with mental disorders. progressivebydesign May 2012 #88
There are scams, but being prepared for 72 hrs, 2 wks or 1 mth emergencies is not unreasonable. aikoaiko May 2012 #82
Timely. My GlennBeckite neighbors are in FULL panic mode right now... progressivebydesign May 2012 #84
The tower will not allow your neighbor to listen in on your hard wired phone calls NNN0LHI May 2012 #90
If you get RF interference in any electronic system in your house, you can alert the FCC. Ikonoklast May 2012 #121
if you get RF interference in any electronic system in your house, you can alert the FCC wa0auu Mar 2013 #138
It's always wise to be prepared. You need three simple things: Zalatix May 2012 #85
youtube is prepper land! Some of them are preparing years of preps. search youtube = prepper, shtf Liberal_in_LA May 2012 #87
what exactly we are talking about happening? Proud Liberal Dem May 2012 #95
It depends on the level of "prepping" involved. Johnny Rico May 2012 #97
Past the 72-hour thing most of my "prep" is limited to reading alien space bat novels. (nt) Posteritatis May 2012 #98
Have you read Island in the Sea of Time by S. M. Stirling? Johnny Rico May 2012 #99
I'm actually reading the third book in that series right now. (nt) Posteritatis May 2012 #103
I liked the first few books in his "dies the fire" series 4th law of robotics May 2012 #105
I agree. His "Island in the Sea of Time" series is indirectly connected to "Dies the Fire". Johnny Rico May 2012 #106
I've read all the draka series 4th law of robotics May 2012 #115
I agree. As a general rule, one "gimme" per story. Johnny Rico May 2012 #116
Yep, it's also 4th law of robotics May 2012 #117
I think prepping can be done for both practical reasons and paranoid reasons. nt ZombieHorde May 2012 #107
It's a fine line kudzu22 May 2012 #109
People have been "prepping" for all of human history, it seems. HuckleB May 2012 #112
Prepping is Paranoia.... TLM May 2012 #113
I'm "planning" for....... Amaril May 2012 #120
More dystopian post-apocalyptic pre-pubescent fantasies LanternWaste May 2012 #130
We always have something for a few days in case of natural disaster... cynatnite May 2012 #134
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