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In reply to the discussion: Straight White Male: The Lowest Difficulty Setting There Is [View all]RadiationTherapy
(5,818 posts)36. Maybe Malthaussen feels differently, but I would personally decline to "prove" privilege exists.
It is however, should you be interested, one of the founding principles upon which is predicated much of the entire fields of ethnic and gender studies.
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And then? Of what does the "fix" consist and why is it necessary for me or "everyone" to
HiPointDem
May 2012
#113
Personal insult in place of answering the question. Because I suspect you can't.
HiPointDem
May 2012
#115
Yes, I *do* want an answer. And no, my questions weren't insulting, to you personally least
HiPointDem
May 2012
#118
Except I didn't ask about the problem. I asked: "Of what does the "fix" consist and why is
HiPointDem
May 2012
#201
You're saying that "the fix" is about everyone "doing the right thing" in their particular
HiPointDem
May 2012
#127
We can't control anyone else, can we? I wonder what the point of the Civil Rights Movement
HiPointDem
May 2012
#130
There aren't? Perhaps you didn't read the addition I made to the post you responded to.
HiPointDem
May 2012
#135
The implementation is not a product of individual police's "white privilege" except at the margins.
HiPointDem
May 2012
#156
and i will add, by separate post, as you took exceptions to my edits, that the idea that
HiPointDem
May 2012
#159
Not bullshit at all. Let's say all white americans suddenly became color-blind tomorrow and were
HiPointDem
May 2012
#202
If you think color-blind is the solution, then you don't understand the problem.
kwassa
May 2012
#221
I didn't say it was the solution -- I asked you what would change tomorrow if people weren't
HiPointDem
May 2012
#222
i think i understood what you said just fine. i don't think you made an argument. rather,
HiPointDem
May 2012
#228
I doubt that "recognition of their white privilege" was why they were there.
HiPointDem
May 2012
#164
I'm suggesting that recognition of discriminatory policies against blacks is not the same thing
HiPointDem
May 2012
#179
Is it a privilege to eat lunch in a restaurant or sit on any seat in a bus?
HiPointDem
May 2012
#200
Yes, it is a privilege to eat lunch in a restaurant or sit in any seat of a bus.
kwassa
May 2012
#226
see, i'm just trying to discuss, and you're being hostile. why? You *are* implying these two
HiPointDem
May 2012
#227
No, I'm a white female. And as a female, I think the concept of "male privilege" is also suspect.
HiPointDem
May 2012
#207
Some don't acknowledge the "setting" or claim it doesn't exist, that's the target of the article
uponit7771
May 2012
#12
In poker, the assumption is that the deck isn't stacked or marked and the dealer is honest.
bigbrother05
May 2012
#69
Just because people can't recognize the privilage doesn't mean it doesn't exist
uponit7771
May 2012
#204
I agree with what you are saying. I believe it has the potential to be a can of worms, but I
RadiationTherapy
May 2012
#7
that concept is addressed through the starting points and character creation
magical thyme
May 2012
#13
As a white working class person who's never broken the law, never gone through a bankruptcy, but
HiPointDem
May 2012
#213
I think the larger theme is that "privilege" is invisible to those who enjoy it
bhikkhu
May 2012
#220
as a swm i'm wondering when i will be showered with all this fortune and ease that i seem
leftyohiolib
May 2012
#8
agreed sometimes i cant sleep from the panic attacks i get over how easy i have it
leftyohiolib
May 2012
#22
I think you're confusing "how easy I have it" with "how difficult others have it".
LanternWaste
May 2012
#33
how difficult others have it implies how easy i have it it's a bs over generalized blanket
leftyohiolib
May 2012
#218
ok, if you say. if i do poorly it's b/c i made poor choices but everyone else who is doing poorly
leftyohiolib
May 2012
#29
A lot of straight white dues have done much better, with less effort, in the same field as Oprah???
Romulox
May 2012
#172
And when they make "bad choices" their money & position allows them to continue doing it
HiPointDem
May 2012
#215
You are conflating the metaphoric "difficulty setting" with the rest of the very complex forces
RadiationTherapy
May 2012
#20
I am well aware of class and its complexities and it is a very important part of my worldview.
RadiationTherapy
May 2012
#58
Maybe Malthaussen feels differently, but I would personally decline to "prove" privilege exists.
RadiationTherapy
May 2012
#36
Bringing class in makes it more difficult to argue for the existense of 'white privilege'.
Llewlladdwr
May 2012
#73
Wait aminute, I thought the whole point of 'white privilege' was that it was institutional?
Llewlladdwr
May 2012
#90
The advantage it provides is generally better outcomes from the same situations
jeff47
May 2012
#132
And yet, if inequality of condition is contraindicative of the premise?
lumberjack_jeff
May 2012
#152
So life is easier for a straight white male from a desperately poor family, living in a trailer park
Nye Bevan
May 2012
#31
Yes, that is exactly the point of the article. Thanks for putting it so simply.
RadiationTherapy
May 2012
#34
Well, you'll have to explore CLASS if you think it matters. If not, that is a fair assessment, imo.
Romulox
May 2012
#46
Well, this is the point where I think the 'white privilege' argument breaks down completely.
Llewlladdwr
May 2012
#76
Being able to get a job isn't a privilege, it's survival unless you're independently wealthy.
HiPointDem
May 2012
#216
If you really think you face prejudie and racism to the extent a person of color does. ..
Marrah_G
May 2012
#98
If we ignore CLASS, then gender and race are all that matters. But CLASS is the most important.
Romulox
May 2012
#45
There's multiple layers of privilege, and their interaction is complex and non-uniform
jeff47
May 2012
#138
OK. But that doesn't speak to the magnitude or pervasiveness of various privileges.
Romulox
May 2012
#140
I think you simply are not sensitive to class markers. Nice straight teeth, for example.
Romulox
May 2012
#173
I think you're not sensitive to the fact that they react that way to any black man.
jeff47
May 2012
#229
Who are "they"? Hypothetical people who *just happen* to be insensitive to class markers?
Romulox
May 2012
#230
may not apply in China, Burma/Myanmar, many parts of Africa and the "middle" east nt
msongs
May 2012
#52
The "Gay Minority Female" with a disability, progressive views, and poor might
FailureToCommunicate
May 2012
#56
didn't say much. but the formation of a multiracial, multiethnic movement among the lower
HiPointDem
May 2012
#150
The poster isn't focusing on three kinds of privilege. In fact, posts like this focus on only one.
lumberjack_jeff
May 2012
#165
Not that I am concerned about your interest in my future posts, but I did not write this piece.
RadiationTherapy
May 2012
#124
Well, the content was clear from the title. Surely you acknowledge that there are many perspectives
RadiationTherapy
May 2012
#217
I think you also have to throw in LUCK into the formula. The random number.
LiberalArkie
May 2012
#77
“'Gay Minority Female' setting? Hardcore." Actually, black women are more likely to be employed
HiPointDem
May 2012
#80
Not all jobs have "AA scoring". In fact, relatively few do. Nor do all jobs represent a rung on the
HiPointDem
May 2012
#101
Not all companies make sales to the government, and not all people work in companies.
HiPointDem
May 2012
#111
You didn't have a choice of being born SWM, people do have a choice of recognizing the .
uponit7771
May 2012
#205
which is why the PTB's response to the civil rights movement came in the form it did, rather
HiPointDem
May 2012
#105
Even more so, a mention of class invites defensiveness and hostility. It. Must. Not. Be. Discussed.
Romulox
May 2012
#141
Not being disabled is a privilege, beauty can be a privilege and wealth is a privilege. If you
stevenleser
May 2012
#131
my father was a straight white male who worked his ass off in a lumber yard so the stockholders
arely staircase
May 2012
#137
Part of the reason that you're not getting any breaks is because it's antisocial to give you one.
lumberjack_jeff
May 2012
#153
The PTB have gotten *everyone* -- white, black, etc. -- to accept the premise that the means
HiPointDem
May 2012
#161
Once you internalize the idea that you're on your own, the world is easier to understand.
lumberjack_jeff
May 2012
#163
Jesus. I would think this level of cognitive dissonance would render a person non functional.
lumberjack_jeff
May 2012
#175
So if an Asian succeeds it is because they worked hard and if a white person succeeds it is because
Kurska
May 2012
#197
Yeah. Don't overexert yourself by telling us twice how lazy white men are. n/t
lumberjack_jeff
May 2012
#176
i think it's similar to the storyline about how lazy american workers are generally. and the
HiPointDem
May 2012
#214
Is it because the game was originally devised and set up by straight white males?
begin_within
May 2012
#191
I won't argue with the idea that being straight, white, and male all confer advantages, however...
slackmaster
May 2012
#195
Indicating there's an even apple to apples playing field is just as moronic
uponit7771
May 2012
#203
Don't hate the race or the sexual orientation, hate the game of capitalism. nt
Comrade_McKenzie
May 2012
#225